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Newly discovered, May 2007

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{{UK-bsoc-stub}} (upmerged)

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The result of the debate was kept

Never proposed and hideously named, but perhaps useful. I note that there is no UK-bank-stub, which is perhaps surprising, so perhaps a combined stub for banks and building societies (the latter of which this is for) may be useful. Would need serious renaming, though. BTW, this is upmerged into two stub cats (fine) and one permcat (not so fine). Grutness...wha? 06:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I created this stub template, because the building society sector is both independent, and more importantly mutually-owned (and as you found out, there isn't a {{UK-bank-stub}}). OK, some societies are more commercial than others, but all of them still require members to vote on issues, so they have a bigger role to play than shareholders. If it's felt building societies are not distinct enough, maybe you could create/rename this into a {{UK-mutual-society-stub}} template (which would include friendly societies, and any remaining mutual insurance companies)?? (Extra3 15:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]
    • The second reason, is that many articles about UK-based societies have only been created recently, and, as such, are still only stubs. My intention was to create awareness of them, so they can be filled out. As far as the categorisation goes, well, like I said, many of these articles are stubs. If this means they shouldn't be featured within a permanent category, then I'm a little bemused (unless the category should be embedded within the article, rather than the template). I'd be interested to hear what you think. (Extra3 15:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]
      • Usual practice for stubs is to have the stub template only include stub categories (usually just one, but sometimes two for upmerged templates). Appropriate permanent categories should be added to the article directly, not indirectly via a stub template that ideally will be removed once the article is no longer a stub. So it's fine (indeed it's expected) for stub articles to be placed in permanent categories, they just shouldn't be placed by means of a stub template. Caerwine Caer’s whines 17:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Internet-tv-stub}} / Category:Internet television stubs

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The result of the debate was upmerged

Yipes. Television stubs have been sorted according to genre, people, episodes, stations, countries, etc. but never by "type of technology on which it appears". Unproposed, only 1 article in it. I don't like it One Bit. Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Exploitation-film-stub}} / Category:Exploitation film stubs

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The result of the debate was list on WP:STUBS

Undecided about this one - I almost took it straight to SFD but had second thoughts. Never proposed... not close to threshold at the moment, but potentially useful, perhaps. Perhaps. At the moment, an upmerging seems plausible. Grutness...wha? 01:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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{{KamenRider-stub}} / Category:Kamen Rider stubs

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The result of the debate was send to WP:CFD

Unproposed, but properly named, with 22 articles so far. Her Pegship (tis herself) 04:28, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Database-stub}}

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The result of the debate was upmerge


Unproposed, redlink category. Seems a reasonable idea, though, given the size of Category:Databases. Mind you, that doesn't guarantee 60 stubs (well, 30, since there seems to be a nascent WikiProject - the same person who created that created this stub type ten minutes later, surprise, surprise). May well be a case of fixing it up and seeing whether or not it grows. If it does, fine. if not, there's still SFD... Grutness...wha? 01:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Turkish politician stubs

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The result of the debate was list on WP:STUBS

This material is now 60+ so I've been bold and given the template a category right away to cut the Asian category down a bit. The category is parented by both Category:Asian politician stubs and Category:European politician stubs as agreed back in November 2006.[1] Valentinian T / C 18:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Serbia is above the mark as well, so I'm listing both categories on WP:WSS/ST. Valentinian T / C 09:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{India-edu-stub}} (redlinked)

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Never proposed, not really needed, except maybe as a parent for the {{india-university-stub}} and {{india-school-stub}} types which have been in long and continual use. Grutness...wha? 02:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly could use the category Category:India(n) education stubs more than the template as a parent for the university and school stubs. Probably worth keeping and catting assuming we can agree on the name for the cat. We have Category:Japanese education stubs and Category:Mexico education stubs so we don't have consistency in the existing sub categories (without even considering the British / United Kingdom issue). Caerwine Caer’s whines 14:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Transylvania-stub}} / Category:Transylvania stubs

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Sounds reasonable as a subtype of Romania stubs except for one niggling doubt - I have a feeling that Transylvania is a historic region of Romania, and is no longer used as a defined official region. If so, this one is a big problem, since subnational splits are always by current region. If it is kept, the category will need to be tidied up (it has no stub parents), and will also clearly need populating (there is currently but one stub). Grutness...wha? 01:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the random and haphazard stub creation. I basically created it on the spur of the moment upon encountering one article that I suddenly thought "Hey, this belongs in a Transylvania category, not just a Romania one!". If it is better to delete it, I won't lose too much sleep over it.
As for Transylvania as historic region--I don't know for sure what the current "official" status of Transylvania is, but it is a clearly-defined region with a unique (and tremendously interesting) history and a similarly unique multiethnic blend of cultures. It's also been bouncing back and forth between Hungary and Romania for the last 1000 years or so as borders and ethnic groups kept moving around (I think it was even independent for a while). K. Lásztocska 01:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transylvania was indeed independent for a while [2]. A template would make sense, given the uniqueness of the region. Grutness is correct that it is a historical region rather than a current administrative entity. Valentinian T / C 07:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Austin-stub}} / Category:Austin stubs

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The result of the debate was take to sfr

Unproposed. Not about the car, but about Austin, Texas (and should therefore be named as such). Currently has one stub, which is also (correctly) marked as a Texas-geo-stub. Might be able to get to the threshold of 60 stubs for this one, but will need renaming to t:AustinTX-stub/c:Austin, Texas stubs for reasons which should be obvious if you look at Austin. Category will also need tidying, since it has no parent categories, stub or perm. Probably a "wait and see" for whether it should be kept or not. Grutness...wha? 00:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's now been moved by its creator to {{Austin-TX-stub}} - another incorrect name :( At least the category now has a stub parent... Grutness...wha? 02:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Should this name stay the same, or would you like to change it to {{AustinTX-stub}}? There are now 60 stubs categorized under it, with more to come I'm sure. Joe I 04:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Give us a chance! :) Not everyone checks this page every day. I'd continue using the current names for nowGiven that there are 60 stubs, it seems likely to be worth keeping under some name, so it will be simply a matter of using a bot to do any necessary changeover. Grutness...wha? 01:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Conspiracy-stub}} / Category:Conspiracy stubs

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Unproposed... not really sure about this one. Certainly the permcat parent has a lot of articles, but I can't see where it would fit on the stub tree (and there are no stubcat parents, so clearly its creator wasn't sure either). Grutness...wha? 01:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The conspiracy stub, as [:category:conspiracy], is categorizable under a few different categories; I just didn't feel the stub needed to be categorized under anything except the conspiracy category. Conspiracy can fall under politics, pseudohistory/history, paranormal, spiritual, etc. However, I have since categorized it under a couple stub categories. ∞ΣɛÞ² (τ|c) 03:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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{{China-radio-station-stub}} and {{Taiwan-radio-station-stub}}

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Two new unproposed templates, both feeding into Category:Chinese radio station stubs (also unproposed). The category has some problems (recursive, and no perm or stub parents other than itself), and it seeems pretty small at present. Perhaps tidying it up and seeing if it reaches threshold is a reasonable move, though the combining of Taiwan and China into one category opens up "ye olde canne of wyrms" (or dragons, at least). Grutness...wha? 06:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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