Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 20

Navbox with one blue link. DB1729talk 22:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Evidently a future bus route that does not have a main article. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates only have one transclusion each, which do not meet the standards for templates. Content should be substituted into the articles they are used in. The college football WikiProject will argue that these templates is necessary for some sort of category hierarchy within the WikiProject but content on Wikipedia still needs to meet Wikipedia standards first and foremost. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep; part of a standard scheme of standings templates. The templates all now have two transclusions each. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closing admin: Jweiss11 was canvassed to this discussion by Thetreesarespeakingtome ([1]). Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Eagles247, at least one of these templates was created by Jweiss11, which would/should have triggered a notification to Jweiss on 13 June by you. You're welcome to pursue an accusation of canvassing at WP:ANI, but I don't think that will turn out fruitful given this fact. Izno (talk) 22:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I've struckout my comment and notified the other template creators. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you point out which templates have "over five transclusions"? I've only found transclusions at the individual NCAA Division III season pages (the only one that they were transcluded on when these were nominated for discussion here), and now at List of NCAA Division III independents football records, a page you've just created in an attempt to avoid deletion here. I've also nominated that page for deletion since it fails WP:NLIST and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe five was an exaggeration but some do have plenty. 1973 has four (if you don't wanna count the list of independent records [which you should] then don't), 1974 has three, 1977 has three, 1978 has four, 1979 has four, 1980 has SEVEN, 1981 has four (with one draft not included), 1982 has five, 1983 has four, 1984 has three, 1985 has five, 1986 has five, 1987 has five, 1988 has four, 1989 has SIX, 1990 has five, 1991 has SEVEN, 1992 has SIX.
    To mass delete every single one based on the original nomination (the 2023 one) and then STATE that you only know of ALL of them only having two proves you did not even bother to check before mass nominating every single one.

    "I've only found transclusions at the individual NCAA Division III season pages (the only one that they were transcluded on when these were nominated for discussion here), and now at List of NCAA Division III independents football records, a page you've just created in an attempt to avoid deletion here."

    Since they have two anyway the correct course of action is to nominate the list of records if it does not pass guidelines and the RE-nominate pending the deletion of the list. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 12:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've struckout the templates above that are transcluded on at least two pages other than the one you just created to try to "save" these templates. Thank you for pointing these out, I had looked at the first 25+ templates to see if there were more than 1 transclusion each and none were, so I incorrectly assumed the other 24 were the same. I regret not finishing my research before making the nomination, but I stand by the remaining templates here. There are still 31 templates that don't meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion pending the result of the AfD. I agree that the AfD should have a result before this TfD, but I also think that article should not have been created in the first place. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 22:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2018. It cannot work as designed, because there do not appear to be any articles that fit the naming scheme in the template code. If it is kept, it should be moved to Template:Area Record to match similar templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is apparently a failed attempt at creating a template for the common formal Athletics abbreviation of an "Area" or Continental record. A template for the formal abbreviation "AR" is too common a letter combination to be useful. Since this did not become functional under this weird spelling, most editors of this subject including myself create a manual redirect to the record mentioned. This should be a template. Instead of deleting this, a useful, more technical editor should create a workable solution to achieve this need.
Side comment. There is a functionality issue to this comment box. The use of the shift key takes the cursor to the beginning of the paragraph, so all sentences are built backward and have to be copy pasted to the correct position to be readable.Trackinfo (talk) 00:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 22:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep No user template has similar or more expansive contents than this one. In particular, it is the only one that links to Special:AbuseLog and Special:Log/block. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just fixed the broken unnamed parameter. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2015. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Superseded by a module.
Noah, BSBATalk 22:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Musical group navbox with no useful links to albums or singles in the body. The only blue link is to another associated act. DB1729talk 11:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Useless navbox, with zero associated non-main articles. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused family tree. Articles use a different tree. Gonnym (talk) 06:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Owari clan uses Template:Generations of Jimmu. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused route map. Gonnym (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused section header template. In articles this shouldn't be used and in non-articles we have Template:Fake heading. Gonnym (talk) 06:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Inferior duplicate of an existing template. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused wikidata related template. Gonnym (talk) 06:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, albeit a little weakly. The nominator seems to be under the misimpression that a template being unused is by itself sufficient grounds for deletion. It is not. This template was developed for potential use in a Module:Find sources template, and while it wasn't initially adopted, it might be in the future, and given that its development stage is appropriately tagged and that retaining it is cheap, that provides grounds for keeping. It is also relevant for editors looking at the history of the creation of the find sources module, and could have other uses for editors seeking for other reasons to associate a country with its newspaper(s) of record. Sdkbtalk 06:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The commentor above is under the misimpression that the nominator does not know how TfD works and that hundred of templates get deleted on a weekly bases for being unused. 3 years being unused is a clear indication that either the template creator has abandoned a template or that the community does not want it. Both are valid grounds for deletion. Gonnym (talk) 08:06, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    and has no likelihood of being used isn't exactly ambiguous, and is bolded for good reason. To the extent it's not being followed, it ought to be — even when there's only a small chance they'll be used in the future, the maintenance cost of retaining templates is minimal (particularly when their documentation is clear, as here). Deletion for the sake of deletion does not benefit the encyclopedia. Sdkbtalk 14:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused route map. Gonnym (talk) 06:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree , I doubt I'll figure out BSicons soon enough to make it presentable for NCRTD. Arlo James Barnes 06:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you can ask for help at the train wikiproject. Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused mix of a link and a citation template. Gonnym (talk) 06:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Just use the database citations and the link to the mountain article. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Needs discussion --- per WP:TfD, we need to ensure that this template is unlikely to be used again. Buaidh has built complex tables of information about mountain peaks. He has used this template in the past, although it is currently unused. I'd like to hear from Buaidh about future plans: is this template now deprecated? Unfortunately, he only edits Wikipedia every 2-3 weeks. I would ask any closing admin to wait for 2-3 weeks to allow Buaidh to respond. — hike395 (talk) 06:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm awake despite my senescence. I have no future plans for Template:Mountain link. Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 09:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table related template. Gonnym (talk) 06:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused population database template. Gonnym (talk) 06:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navigation template with all links being redirects. Gonnym (talk) 06:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table related template. Gonnym (talk) 06:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused citation template. Gonnym (talk) 06:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox for a football team that dissolved. Gonnym (talk) 06:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 16:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom - defunct club does not need a 'current' squad template. GiantSnowman 16:13, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and empty navbox. Gonnym (talk) 06:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sidebar that acts like a family tree. Gonnym (talk) 06:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete 21 linked articles, but mostly unlinked. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]