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Template:Northwestern Busway, Auckland

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox with one blue link. DB1729talk 22:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Evidently a future bus route that does not have a main article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:2023 NCAA Division III independents football records

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The result of the discussion was keep. Clear consensus that it makes sense to keep all of these for consistency. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates only have one transclusion each, which do not meet the standards for templates. Content should be substituted into the articles they are used in. The college football WikiProject will argue that these templates is necessary for some sort of category hierarchy within the WikiProject but content on Wikipedia still needs to meet Wikipedia standards first and foremost. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Can you point out which templates have "over five transclusions"? I've only found transclusions at the individual NCAA Division III season pages (the only one that they were transcluded on when these were nominated for discussion here), and now at List of NCAA Division III independents football records, a page you've just created in an attempt to avoid deletion here. I've also nominated that page for deletion since it fails WP:NLIST and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe five was an exaggeration but some do have plenty. 1973 has four (if you don't wanna count the list of independent records [which you should] then don't), 1974 has three, 1977 has three, 1978 has four, 1979 has four, 1980 has SEVEN, 1981 has four (with one draft not included), 1982 has five, 1983 has four, 1984 has three, 1985 has five, 1986 has five, 1987 has five, 1988 has four, 1989 has SIX, 1990 has five, 1991 has SEVEN, 1992 has SIX.
    To mass delete every single one based on the original nomination (the 2023 one) and then STATE that you only know of ALL of them only having two proves you did not even bother to check before mass nominating every single one.

    "I've only found transclusions at the individual NCAA Division III season pages (the only one that they were transcluded on when these were nominated for discussion here), and now at List of NCAA Division III independents football records, a page you've just created in an attempt to avoid deletion here."

    Since they have two anyway the correct course of action is to nominate the list of records if it does not pass guidelines and the RE-nominate pending the deletion of the list. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 12:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've struckout the templates above that are transcluded on at least two pages other than the one you just created to try to "save" these templates. Thank you for pointing these out, I had looked at the first 25+ templates to see if there were more than 1 transclusion each and none were, so I incorrectly assumed the other 24 were the same. I regret not finishing my research before making the nomination, but I stand by the remaining templates here. There are still 31 templates that don't meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion pending the result of the AfD. I agree that the AfD should have a result before this TfD, but I also think that article should not have been created in the first place. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    [2] 1975, [3] 1976, [4] 1993 have two now. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 13:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eagles247, what should be obvious now is that article development related to the templates you've already stricken from the nomination could be repeated for most if not all of the templates that you haven't yet stricken. And more generally, how does it serve Wikipedia to have some members of a well-defined, discrete set in template form, but others not? Doesn't that make the encyclopedia unnecessarily complicated and inconsistent in form? Don't you think you're attempting to apply a broad rule in a rigid manner that doesn't best serve the development of the project? Jweiss11 (talk) 06:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jweiss11: Wouldn't it make more sense to create articles first so that templates meet Wikipedia standards at date of creation? I also don't think these specific standings are relevant on team season articles anyway, since their records are unrelated to each other, unlike teams in conferences, but that's a discussion for another time. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, the problem is the way in which you are trying to apply these standards bluntly even when they obstruct the advancement of the project. It's more valuable to have templates there to provide context and completeness at articles like 1973 NCAA Division III football season even before some minimum number of individual team season articles is created. Reliable sources will often report the standings of various independent teams at a given level of play alongside and in analogous form to conference standings: e.g. [5], [6], [7]. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If completeness of the main season articles is what you want, you can just substitute the standings templates into those articles until creating a template is warranted. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Completeness of the main season articles is not the only thing I (and others here) want. We also want efficiency and consistency. Why would you want to delete templates only to have to recreate them later? You'd just be creating unnecessary busy work in service of wiki-bureaucracy. Also, having a discrete set of analogous tables mixed between templates and non-templates makes the structure of the encyclopedia more complicated, less predictable, and more difficult to navigate than it should be. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 22:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:AreaR

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2018. It cannot work as designed, because there do not appear to be any articles that fit the naming scheme in the template code. If it is kept, it should be moved to Template:Area Record to match similar templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is apparently a failed attempt at creating a template for the common formal Athletics abbreviation of an "Area" or Continental record. A template for the formal abbreviation "AR" is too common a letter combination to be useful. Since this did not become functional under this weird spelling, most editors of this subject including myself create a manual redirect to the record mentioned. This should be a template. Instead of deleting this, a useful, more technical editor should create a workable solution to achieve this need.
Side comment. There is a functionality issue to this comment box. The use of the shift key takes the cursor to the beginning of the paragraph, so all sentences are built backward and have to be copy pasted to the correct position to be readable.Trackinfo (talk) 00:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 22:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've kind of fixed this. Would be helpful to be sure of the naming conventions, for example we have:
List of North, Central American and Caribbean under-20 records in athletics
and specific area records are in things like 60_metres_hurdles#Area_records .
All the best: Rich Farmbrough 18:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
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Template:Usbk/light

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 June 29. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:User18

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 June 29. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Windstorm colour

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2015. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Superseded by a module.
Noah, BSBATalk 22:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Gareth Asher and the Earthlings

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Musical group navbox with no useful links to albums or singles in the body. The only blue link is to another associated act. DB1729talk 11:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Useless navbox, with zero associated non-main articles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Owari clan genealogy Amenohoakari

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused family tree. Articles use a different tree. Gonnym (talk) 06:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Owari clan uses Template:Generations of Jimmu. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Ontario rail network

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 02:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused route map. Gonnym (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:OpenMusicLibrary

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:NonTOC-heading

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused section header template. In articles this shouldn't be used and in non-articles we have Template:Fake heading. Gonnym (talk) 06:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Inferior duplicate of an existing template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Newspaper of record

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 June 28. ✗plicit 02:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:NCRTD

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree , I doubt I'll figure out BSicons soon enough to make it presentable for NCRTD. Arlo James Barnes 06:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you can ask for help at the train wikiproject. Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, although I did the bus WP instead: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Buses#c-Arlo_Barnes-20240626063000-help_desired Arlo James Barnes 06:31, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused mix of a link and a citation template. Gonnym (talk) 06:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Just use the database citations and the link to the mountain article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Needs discussion --- per WP:TfD, we need to ensure that this template is unlikely to be used again. Buaidh has built complex tables of information about mountain peaks. He has used this template in the past, although it is currently unused. I'd like to hear from Buaidh about future plans: is this template now deprecated? Unfortunately, he only edits Wikipedia every 2-3 weeks. I would ask any closing admin to wait for 2-3 weeks to allow Buaidh to respond. — hike395 (talk) 06:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm awake despite my senescence. I have no future plans for Template:Mountain link. Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 09:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to hear from you! All the best: Rich Farmbrough 18:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
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Template:Monument row

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table related template. Gonnym (talk) 06:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Metadata Population Turkish province

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused population database template. Gonnym (talk) 06:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Medrxiv

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MPBL season-by-season team history

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navigation template with all links being redirects. Gonnym (talk) 06:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MPDC Vehicle

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table related template. Gonnym (talk) 06:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MVLSZ profile

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MSW3 Dermoptera

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused citation template. Gonnym (talk) 06:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Lok Sabha website

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Leo Baeck Institute - DigiBaeck

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused external link template. Gonnym (talk) 06:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:HK U23 Football Team squad

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox for a football team that dissolved. Gonnym (talk) 06:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Glaciers of James Ross Island

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and empty navbox. Gonnym (talk) 06:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Abu Dhabi princely family

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sidebar that acts like a family tree. Gonnym (talk) 06:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete 21 linked articles, but mostly unlinked. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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