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Template:Tribl edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:40, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template with only two articles that already link to and from one another without the need for a navbox like this. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No need for a navbox to link two articles. Navigation should be provided in other ways, eg simple links. Nigej (talk) 07:02, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NENAN. Also "Tribl" redirects to a discography page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Hong Kong vaccinations chart edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused chart of the daily number of vaccinations. Not maintained. Nigej (talk) 07:42, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Slovenia differing methodologies edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused chart abandoned in 2020. Nigej (talk) 07:43, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/South Africa, North West medical cases edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table and chart. Not maintained. Nigej (talk) 07:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/California/Los Angeles County medical cases chart edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. No prejudice against userfication if someone wants to keep or continue updating the historical data. Primefac (talk) 11:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused data charts for California counties. Not maintained. Nigej (talk) 07:55, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There is no reason to remove relevant historical data, whether it has been kept current or not. WP:NTEMP Wikipedia is not temporary. For several of these counties, I have kept an archive of information. I've now edited some of that into the templates, meaning there are current edits. Its an awkward time consuming process within the heavy wiki formatting. I have not figured out a way to automate entering this data. Not that it is important, but these templates have not been abandoned. Their relevance for historical research is timeless which is why WP:NTEMP exists. Unused is a term for non-transcluded content and no longer relevant. You have not presented a case for any of these being non-transcluded. All of this COVID medical data globally, that you have deleted, should be restored. Trackinfo (talk) 05:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. I've already cast a defeated keep vote in a previous deletion discussion (I would have done another vote in an even older discussion, but it was closed before I could reply [wasn't aware of the 7 days default time limit]). If having an outdated template in a page bothers some, I think it could be a decent compromise to just comment it out (with that special html tag) and leave the door open for future attentive editors to update it.
About Trackinfo's concern of "heavy wiki formatting", it is possibly to just input the 3 main statistics and date in the csv format. Ideally though, all data should be stored in Wikidata or proper .tab tables. This is a working feature and making it the only method of input is planned. WP:AWB is a good way to speed up input, but I think the main problem and difficulty would be to create a scraper bot (with Selenium for example) to get data from the different sources. Alexiscoutinho (talk) 16:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It continues to be simply uneconomical, beyond the failure of WP:NOTSTATS these tables represent. In their place it might be reasonable to have charts of the rise and fall in case, but regardless, we don't need the data itself here. --Izno (talk) 04:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, way too detailed to be kept here, especially if these data are not being maintained. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, while it would be great to see this information archived somewhere, I don't think a template is the best home for it. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It seems there's no way out. I've already saved these remaining templates in my machine (wish I could have done the same for the others, but that is not a big deal). If and when I port the data to wikidata and update it, I will ask for the revival of the template (in a much simpler form). Alexiscoutinho (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Origins of COVID-19 (current consensus)/sandbox/editnotice edit

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Plastikspork (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox for an edit notice for a template. Nigej (talk) 08:01, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, okay to delete imo. If we were to later implement an editnotice we would just do it after consensus on the talk, no need for the sandbox at this time. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 08:02, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:COVID-19 pandemic in Australia/temp edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chart of daily cases from early 2020. Not maintained. Nigej (talk) 08:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • It can go but check that it is not actually being used. When used, is that a copy or a reference? Tuntable (talk) 09:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Content Management edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate to {{Content management systems}}. That navbox can be extended but there's really no point in starting a new one. Nigej (talk) 08:35, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/India/Andhra Pradesh medical cases chart edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and not maintained daily charts for individual Indian states. Two are being maintained and I have left off this list. Nigej (talk) 09:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cork Hurling Team 2000 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Team navboxes for teams that didn't reach the final of the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship/Munster Senior Hurling Championship. These 5 are unused but there are other similar ones that ought to be deleted too. Really no use for navigation. Nigej (talk) 10:12, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:DC Animated Universe/Clear edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not used at {{DC Animated Universe}} since June 2020. Nigej (talk) 10:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:HOcharlink edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Broken external link template for Hollyoaks characters. Nigej (talk) 11:42, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:International goalkeeper stats header edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like an idea to produce a table of results for goalkeepers with the number of goals conceded, along the lines of {{International goals header}}. Probably best to adapt that one, should there ever be a requirement for it. Unused from 2010. Nigej (talk) 11:59, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Television Rotten Tomatoes scores/separate edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Used by {{Television Rotten Tomatoes scores}} between 18 Feb and 6 Mar 2021 but not currently used. Nigej (talk) 14:30, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Current members of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Current Members of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:27, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:DAB LegCo members, Template:FTU LegCo members, Template:BPA LegCo members, Template:NPP LegCo members, Template:Liberal LegCo members, Template:FEW LegCo members, Template:FLU LegCo members, Template:Roundtable LegCo members, Template:Professional Power LegCo members, Template:KWND LegCo members, Template:New Prospect LegCo members, Template:NCF LegCo members, Template:Pro-Beijing independent members and Template:Centrist independent LegCo members with Template:Current Members of the Legislative Council of Hong Kong.
This is a navbox consisting of 14 other navboxes, 8 of which consist of only 1 or 2 people. Surely it would be much clearer if it was all part of one navbox. Nigej (talk) 17:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Malaysia Rail Platform Layout Bandar Tasik Selatan edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Content now inline at Bandar Tasik Selatan station, Kajang station, Subang Jaya station, Sungai Buloh station. Nigej (talk) 18:25, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 Winter Olympics convenience templates edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:25, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In previous Winter Olympics, convenience templates had been created to collect the source text for the various standings, rosters, and box scores in the curling and ice hockey events. However, this year the current consensus/practice is to use the labeled section transclusion method (a system that was not commonly used four years ago as it is now) to tranclude this content from another article section in the main article namespace rather than having 200+ separate curling and ice hockey convenience templates in the template namespace like in 2018. So for consistency, we should either delete these handful of 2022 convenience templates templates that currently exist so far (and most of these are currently not being transcluded in the article mainspace anyway), or actually create and use the other 200+ curling and ice hockey templates. Zzyzx11 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete All were transcluded already so those roster templates are overkill. Same was done at the Summer Olympics. Kante4 (talk) 21:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - We need those, for the national ice hockey team articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:27, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Not really. I could instead, for example, easily use the same labeled section transclusion method and add {{#section:Ice hockey at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Women's team rosters|CAN}} to the Canada women's national ice hockey team page and it will basically have the same effect. And that information will be temporary in the long run on that article anyway (the 2018 Winter Olympics roster is not there anymore, right?) Zzyzx11 (talk) 21:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Would be the same as it is used at Canada at the 2022 Winter Olympics. Simple and no need for templates. Kante4 (talk) 21:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The "section" approach is much better. It keeps the content at the correct place (eg Ice hockey at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Men's team rosters, allowing for ease of editing, while also enabling that content to appear in other articles without copying the information. Arguments like "We need those, for the national ice hockey team articles." seem to show a misunderstanding of the proposed alternative. The basic principle is that article content should be in articles, not hidden away. Nigej (talk) 06:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've added another to the list. Nigej (talk) 07:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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