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Template:Uw-1rrAbortion edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 23. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 16:14, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Anarion_family_tree edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 August 7. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 15:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Belgium national football team matches edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:12, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary, there is currently only one link. Not a useful aid to navigation. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:46, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Module:AWBVersions edit

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nom It makes no sense to delete the module but keep the data page {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 12:52, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unused module, pulls data from out-of-date data page, which was nominated for deletion by me. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:37, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:BucketheadBrain edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

un-needed template (all links included in the main Template:Buckethead, duo only released one album under the Pieces alias. RF23 (talk) 08:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The group does not have its own article, the one album has been redirected, the other bands featuring Buckethead are not needed leaving the two member links that are already covered in Template:Buckethead. Aspects (talk) 03:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Husbands of British princesses edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 24. Primefac (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Main edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 25. Primefac (talk) 00:05, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:WikiProject History of photography edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:WikiProject Photography as per standard task force protocols, making sure that extant uses of this template will display the proper end template until it can be subst'd and deleted (i.e. turn it into a wrapper). Primefac (talk) 00:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject History of Photography is now a task force under WikiProject Photography, the template for which currently can (and should, if merged) include a link to that task force.

  • Keep separate. Merging of WikiProject History of photography with WikiProject Photography will unnecessarily submerge the specific interest in historical records of the medium within the vast array of technical interests that occupy most photography articles. History of Photography is a distinct discipline, whereas 'Photography' is a generic. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and serves its reference purposes best by preserving distinct categorisations. There are numbers of editor/contributors to History of Photography who I find are unaware of this proposal for merger and more time should be given to alert them to it. Jamesmcardle(talk) 23:32, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamesmcardle: This is a proposal to merge the templates, not to merge the different initiatives. The specific interest in historical records is maintained in the History of Photography task force, and the WikiProject Council's Guide to Task Forces states "Task forces will generally not have their own talk page banners; instead, they are integrated directly into the parent project's banner via an optional parameter." This is already the case. The History of Photography task force is integrated in the Photography WikiProject banner, and so a separate banner is not needed. Qono (talk) 02:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment: What would be the advantage of merging the templates? --Angerdan (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Angerdan: The advantages are to avoid the redundancy and clutter of listing the History of Photography twice on talk pages (in its own template and in the Photography template) and to comply with the recommendation of the WikiProject Council's Guide to Task Forces, which states "Task forces will generally not have their own talk page banners; instead, they are integrated directly into the parent project's banner via an optional parameter." Qono (talk) 22:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • reply : Qono, @Angerdan:, will merging the templates still permit the tagging of articles "WikiProject HOP". I assume use of Category 'History of Photography" on article pages remains? Those are my main concerns...keeping history of photography distinct and available as a category and as a distinct project. Thank you for expertise on templates, the administrative structure of which is still obscure to me...forgive my ignorance, but ""Task forces will generally not have their own talk page banners; instead, they are integrated directly into the parent project's banner via an optional parameter." is gobbledegook to me.
    Jamesmcardle(talk) 05:16, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamesmcardle: After merging, pages can still be tagged "History of Photography", it would just be done within the WikiProject Photography template. This is what the recommendation you quoted is talking about. All you have to do is add "|history=yes" (this is the "optional parameter" mentioned) to the WikiProject Photography template tag for any articles falling under the "History of Photography".
So, addressing your main concerns:
  • The "History of Photography" category on article pages would be unaffected by this change.
  • The "History of Photography" category and project would both remain distinct and available.
I hope that clarifies! Wikipedia administration can certainly be obscure, and I've had to do some digging to figure all of this out. Thanks for getting involved! Qono (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation, Qono and for link to the WikiProject Photography template. That understanding makes the effect of this merging of templates clearer and eases my concerns, I will just have to get used to a new routine in adding the parameter..., therefore I Support--Jamesmcardle(talk) 23:27, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support If it's now a task force, then it should share a banner template. This reduces "clutter" on talk pages so you don't have two banners effectively for the same thing. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hang on SEMMENDINGER...'Photography' and 'History of Photography' are not the same thing...as photographer-contributors to technical articles make so abundantly clear in their claims to having 'invented' a certain technique, so many need to familiarise themselves with the History of their medium. Let's hope this merger might in some way encourage that!--Jamesmcardle(talk) 23:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if I was unclear, I do not think they are the same thing. I'm strictly referring to their shared space on this site as both now exist under the same WikiProject home page. Since they share a WikiProject landing site their banner should reflect that fact. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 23:47, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:States of Nazi Germany edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. If someone wants to merge it, they are welcome to, but note that this action would not be as a result of this TFD. Concerns about such a merger should be discussed on the template's talk page. Primefac (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, and doesn't link to Nazi-specific articles. --woodensuperman 13:35, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've contacted the closer about that, as it seems strange to merge to this template when all participants in the previous discussion agreed that this one should be deleted! --woodensuperman 13:47, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:09, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:SockmasterProven edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 July 23. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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