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June 21

1931 Chevrolet Pheaton.

Good afternoon. Could you please help me find out how many 1931 Chevrolet Pheaton AE Independance Delux vehicle's were made world wide? I do Know that 852 were made in the USA, but I am un-able to get information on total production. Kind regards, Luke 196.215.175.124 (talk) 13:37, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Is there any reason to believe that Chevrolet had any non-US production at all at that time? AlexTiefling (talk) 13:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thank you Chev definitely assembled vehicles in South Africa and Australia at the time, The vehicle I am refering to was produced in South Africa in Port Elizabeth.196.215.175.124 (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Did you mean Chevrolet Phaeton? You may need a more specialized source than Wikipedia. I can see from Google that the Phaeton existed, but we don't mention it on the Phaeton page, or on our List of Chevrolet vehicles. If you know of another name this model is known by, that might help. --BDD (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, actually, there's an Independence Series AE mentioned on the list from 1931, but you'll notice it's a red link, meaning we don't have an article on it. I'm afraid we have rather limited information about Chevrolet from that time period. From the main Chevrolet, the only plant outside of the US mentioned from that time was in Ontario. --BDD (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

tHANK YOU TO THE RESPONDERS.196.215.175.124 (talk) 11:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Why is the UK so much poorer than the US?

Based on nominal gdp per person, there's a wide difference.

• 11 United States 49,922
• 23 United Kingdom 38,589

Given the fundamental similarities (sure you could list a million differences) how is it possible that any number of factors could be so influential to make the UK so much poorer than the US?

Backspaceco (talk) 18:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Is it that much worse off in the UK? It's not like living in Zimbabwe or Afghanistan there, is it? GDP is but one measure of quality of life, and even not that great of one. Per List of countries by Human Development Index, the UK is lower in rank there, but both countries are well within the "Very high human development" ranking; and at that level it is sort of like deciding why the man who drives a Mercedes Benz is so much worse off than the man that drives the Bentley is. The difference is numerically real, but practically is there a significant quality of life difference between the average US citizen and the average UK citizen? One thing may be that the U.S. has a much higher number of very rich people, per List of countries by income equality, things like the Gini coefficient show that the income distribution in the U.S. is much more inequally distributed than it is in the UK, so while the "typical" US citizen lives similarly to the "typical" UK citizen, or maybe even worse, the outliers in the U.S. (those VERY VERY rich) throw the metrics like GDP way off. --Jayron32 21:09, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

The main point is Britain has a fully developed infrastructure and the national health. So the difference in income is about as relevant as deciding who's richer, a young man with little savings who pays everything out of pocket, or a man on the edge of retirement with free healthcare and accrued personal and cultural assets. Onslough and Daisy are rich on those terms, and Americans would pay to live on their terms as a pleasant vacation opportunity. (Of course, this also depends on importing cheap labor, which is a much worse problem for Britain than the US.) μηδείς (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I know this is a provocative topic, but it's going way off on a tangent here. Looie496 (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Funny how we get the "insanely" rich thrown in there. μηδείς (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC) The other epithet usually tossed around is "obscenely rich". Funny how people buy lottery tickets, hoping to win (sometimes) hundreds of millions of dollars without earning a single cent of it, yet those who work hard all their lives to earn their nest eggs are said to be "insane" and "obscene". Weird. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 22:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC) Well, "hard" has nothing to do with it. The man who digs ditches or hammers nails into wood works very hard, but will still never live the life of privilege and wealth enjoyed by those who are lucky enough to be born to the correct parents. --Jayron32 01:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC) People being born to the wrong parents is a very rare occurrence. μηδείς (talk) 01:15, 22 June 2013 (UTC) And where did "the correct parents" get their money from? Was it from their "correct parents"? And where did they .... and so on, all the way back to the beginning of time on the backs of turtles, I presume. Unless that was meant as a joke, Jayron, you surprise with your attitude to the owners of money. It is not actually illegal or immoral to have lots of it. And if you earned it through your own legitimate efforts, so much the better. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 04:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC) I think the problem is with the implication that some people deserve the wealth they have because they worked hard to get it. Jayron has clarified that some people work very hard and will never be wealthy. HiLo48 (talk) 04:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC) The adjectives "insane" and "obscene" are generally applied to sums which are larger than "nest eggs" and are not accumulated by "those who work hard all their lives". On the OP's question, one general observation - that applies to Europe as a whole vs the US rather than just the UK vs. the US is that since the turning point of the 70s, because of its greater reliance on Keynesian deficit spending, particularly under Republican administrations, the USA tended to have lower unemployment and higher growth than Europe, while it tended to have higher unemployment and lower growth than Europe during the Post–World War II economic expansion.John Z (talk) 05:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

In the UK, a very high proportion of income now goes on housing costs. I'd be interested in a comparison with US. --Dweller (talk) 20:21, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

EDUN

What's the lowest price for an EDUN jean? (I don't know if this is the right place but I shoot anyway) Miss Bono ^(zootalk) 18:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll sell you mine for $1. We cannot possibly answer this seriously. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 21:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

You are assuming a serious answer is what's desired? μηδείς (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Of course. We're a serious-minded outfit. Fun has its place, but as A. P. Herbert said, "People must not do things for fun. We are not here for fun. There is no reference to fun in any act of parliament". -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 22:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Your knowledge of such interesting, semi-obscure, and notable post-Hanoverian British subjects makes me almost regret having been born and educated in the world's greatest country. μηδείς (talk) 01:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm satisfied to live on the Solar System's greatest planet. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 05:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, or at least its largest planet. (The gas giants, as I've explained before, are not planets. If you can't land there, it's not a planet. Yes, this is my idiosyncratic usage, but in your heart you know I'm right.) --Trovatore (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Such ridiculous and disgusting (not to mention incorrect) jingoism has no place on the ref desk, Meides. Please leave it a the door when you come in. Fgf10 (talk) 08:25, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Medeis has spurs that jingo-jango-jingo. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

• Try searching e-commerce websites like Amazon.com or google.com/shopping. Searching for edun jeans, I found them from $20 (USD) used and $39 new on Google. I only found one $80 pair on Amazon, so perhaps something went wrong with that search. --BDD (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you guys! So, Jack of Oz do you have EDUN jeans?? I think the prices are mostly correct... Anyways I dont have Internet Access Miss Bono ^(zootalk) 14:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Never heard of them. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 19:36, 24 June 2013 (UTC)