Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Classical music/archive1

Portal:Classical music

I'm hoping to take this to P:FP soon, and I'd like a thorough peer review to ensure its pass. Thanks! :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

• This should probably have a sound section: We do have quite a lot.
  • Will add when the February selections come out. Is this good enough? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Done. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
• The Did you know sections contains facts not referenced by the articles linked, e.g, no description of The Deliverance of Theseus appears... anywhere, that I can find. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Removed that one, and will see what else I can do. Thanks, SH. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

• I would suggest you create your own bespoke "Associated Wikimedia" box and get rid of {{WikimediaForPortals}} as the only links that currently work from that are Commons and Wiktionary. At least with a bespoke box you can specify targets individually. You could also set the images in selected articles to not use the thumb parameter but just stand alone if you so wish. Nanonic (talk) 17:27, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Done I think. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

It's better not to use the thumbnail marking for pictures, see Portal:Fish for presenting Selected pictures. feydey (talk) 19:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments by Jh12

• I'm going to judge this portal against many of the featured portals I've looked over, Wikipedia:Portal guidelines, and Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. I'll try to start with the biggest suggestions first:
• I highly recommend converting from selections by year/month to randomized selections: see Portal:Islam, Portal:Criminal justice, Portal:Sustainable development, and Portal:Japan. All of these portals are easier to maintain and they allow a reader access to all of the content that has ever been available on the portal instead of just static selections for one month. All of these portals also use a layout system for their randomized selections, with instructions on how to add a new selection. (Portal:Criminal justice/Selected article) Per Wikipedia:Portal guidelines; I don't think thumbnail formatting should be used in any of the selections for article, biography, and picture; instead, see the layout system used by Portal:Criminal justice/Selected picture.
• So I would recommend getting the layout system in place in the selection subpages, editing the main portal page to use {{Random portal component}}, and adding a big Show new selections button like the portals I've listed to check that everything works. For this portal, you should have at least 10 randomized selections each for Selected article, Selected picture, Selected biography, Selected sound, Selected Quotes (Portal:Oregon), and Did you know... (Portal:Islam). Also note that after that is done selections should be changed to be of similar size: under Portal:Classical music/Selected biography/Archive, the selection for Schoenberg is much larger than the one for Beethoven
• Selected picture needs credits like at Portal:Schools
• The portal needs a Topics section per Wikipedia:Portal_guidelines#Required
• Having a Project introduction box seems a little too self-referential for me. I think you should add a Things you can do box instead like at Portal:Sustainable development or Portal:Peru. Most of the featured portals I've seen separate Portals and Project more clearly so you may wish to change this box to a separate Wikiprojects box and remove them from Related portals like at Portal:Criminal justice or make it look like Portal:United Nations
• I recommend having a featured content section like at Portal:Islam
• I think selected article, biography, and picture should all have in-text bold links to that particular article like Portal:Oregon and Portal:Islam
  • Done.
• Add a {{browsebar}} to the top of the portal like at Portal:Criminal justice or Portal:The Beatles
  • Done. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 05:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
• For additional content, you could also add a Selected anniversaries selection like at Portal:Oregon or Portal:Schools
• It may take awhile to get all this stuff done, but it could lead to a much more polished portal and a smoother featured review. In my opinion, the primary issue is getting at least ten randomized selections for all of the important boxes and ensuring their selection quality (i.e. only GA or FA articles for Selected article like at Portal:Criminal justice/Selected article Best of luck! --Jh12 (talk) 17:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment – Jh12 has many good comments that will take some time to implement. Usually, since the listing has been inactive for 1 month and 11 days, it would have been archived. However, from her talk page, La Pianista will not have Internet access possibly until June 14. [sd] 21:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

• What with with the likes of Stravinsky, Debussy... in the Notable composer list... while REALLY notable ones aren't in the list ?! Pardon my rudness, but I just went to modify the list. If you guys are okay with... I could have removed Chopin in the list in the same move as well. YES, he is an important pianist composer, I didn't say less. But What about Beethoven then? He WAS the GENIUS PIANIST COMPOSER. So, Chopin does not deserve to be in the list. Sorry, again, for the highlight.Reiko-chin—"I wish I was an artist to be able to be an anarchist and live like a millionnaire..." (talk) 08:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
• We no longer accept portals that run on monthly-update system because, as demonstrated in the selected biography, once the portal no longer is maintained, it will be out of date within 1 month or less. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 06:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)