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November 8

Allison Baver - Women in Red Wiki Project

Dear Wikipedia,

I saw that you have a Women in Red Project and I am one of the women who hopes to get your support with elevating my wiki profile to be equal and to match my male piers in the world of sports and entertainment. I have found that my wiki page in comparison to my male counterparts with equal and even much lesser credentials than me have complete and actually amazing wikipedia pages while my page is significantly under-represented and does not grasp my complete and most accurate bio even a little. If you can kindly have someone reach me from my website from your women in red project or anyone that can work with me to elevate it, that would be amazing. We are preparing an announcement for release this week and press will be looking, so I had to finally reach out. I have put together a master bio and link of news articles and also newspaper.com has 1500 news articles for the most accurate bio and easy updating by one of your writers.

Really appreciate all you are doing for women on your platform with the Women in Red project and appreciate your support!

Allison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Baver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.130.205.252 (talk) 03:00, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

If you have information to add on yourself, I suggest taking the indirect approach and working with interested uninvolved editors by submitting edit requests that use what Wikipedia acknowledges as reliable sources on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Print in color

I wanted to print the List of United States major party presidential tickets in color but no matter what setting I selected it only printed in B/W even though the chart is in color. How can I print the chart in color? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.101.143.210 (talk) 03:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

check your printer's settings, and check that it is capable of printing in colours. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:28, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Wrong message of our culture

On home page Diwali is showing Festival of Muslim. What the rubbish.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:9518:DC69:0:0:2B48:18A5 (talk) 06:27, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

That doesn't appear to be on the main page of the English Wikipedia. Are you sure this is Wikipedia and not something like a Google Knowledge Panel? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Contacting Editors of the BBC School Radio Page

I'd very much like to contact the editors of the BBC School Radio about a project a few retired producers are engaged in with the British Library. Not interested in adding anything to the page but just to let the editors know what we are doing and the research we are carrying out Can you help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Extant45 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Extant45: Welcome but you seem to have misunderstood the nature of our editors here. They are random volunteers, laypersons with no connection to the BBC (beyond perhaps watching it), largely anonymous, completely unorganized. (Incidentally, as someone who appears to be working with or for the BBC, you may want to check out our conflict of interest rules).

If you don't have material that could be added to the article, then the message to the editors doesn't fit the site's purpose. (Sorry...)

However, if BBC School Radio is taking some sort of noteworthy action that might require updating the article, an announcement on the BBC's website would be a reliable source to support such a change. We would very much appreciate it if you provided a link to any such announcement at Talk:BBC School Radio. (Without a source, we can't update the article). Using edit request at Talk:BBC School Radio would make it more likely that someone will see any links you provide us. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:45, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

What's the proper way to deal with "official websites" that are permanently offline, with an archive link available - but the original domain is now malicious?

Pretty much the title. I came across this before, and had no idea what to do. Linking to the archive link as the "official website" seems wrong - when we have a specific template for archived links - but so does leaving up a link to a malicious domain, even if it was the official website in the past. Thoughts? Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 10:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Either Pipe the link to the web archive, or remove entirely. Any particular article you think of? Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Yep, ? (film) (was trying to make the official website match wikidata). Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 10:39, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Pipe to the archive, exclude the link to the malicious domain Nosebagbear (talk) 15:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

fair use?

Is it permissible for the article The Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time to include the entire list from the book? It's a list but it was curated by creative effort of an author. RJFJR (talk) 15:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

RJFJR, hm, that seems questionable to me, too. —valereee (talk) 15:26, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I cut it to the top ten. I think that's sufficient for people to understand the book, for our purposes. —valereee (talk) 15:39, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 17:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

disambiguation page submission

Hi, I want to create a small disambiguation page, which I haven't done before. Although I have read the advice on style etc., I can't find the basics on how to submit a page for approval. Please could you point me in the right direction? RoachPeter (talk) 16:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@RoachPeter: as far as I can tell, you should be able to simply create the disambiguation page yourself, as you appear to have made enough edits/been around long enough to do so. For example, if the page is to disambiguate the word "hello", you should be able to go to Hello (disambiguation) and create the page there - replacing "hello" with the term you want to disambiguate. What is the page you want to create? If you can't do that, maybe try Wikipedia:Article wizard. Seagull123 Φ 17:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@RoachPeter: there are two approaches to making a dab page, and the "correct" approach depends on the relative notability of the article that is the current subject of the name. If the current name is more or less as obscure as the other articles, then rename ("move") the current article: move hello to hello (greeting), and then convert the resulting redirect into a dab page. (Also create Hello (disambiguation) as a redirect to your new dab page). If the current subject is clearly the main subject for that name, current consensus is to create the dab page as described by Seagull123. There are editors (including me) that think you should always make the subject into the dab page, because it makes it a whole lot easier to find improper links to a dab page. For example, try to find incorrect links to George Harrison that should instead go to George Harrison (civil servant). -Arch dude (talk) 18:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I'm still a bit confused. The specific situation concerns two articles, one being The Priory School, Shrewsbury and the other The Priory Grammar School for Boys, Shrewsbury. To many older people in or from Shrewsbury, the name "The Priory School" refers to the latter, not the former. So I thought a disambiguation page named "The Priory School, Shrewsbury" giving links to the two schools would be helpful. RoachPeter (talk) 22:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@RoachPeter: I would suggest using a hatnote on The Priory School, Shrewsbury as explained in Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Hatnotes. You could also add The Priory Grammar School for Boys, Shrewsbury to the Priory School disambiguation page. TSventon (talk) 12:37, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I inserted a hatnote at The Priory School, Shrewsbury. RoachPeter (talk) 11:49, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Changi a page title

How can can I change a page title. in my article. I m told to understand I need to be logged in and have Administrator rights. I would like also to send it for review after editing the page title. Could you please help me with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhebhel1 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bhebel1: which page do you want to move? To learn how to move a page (change its title), read this page: Wikipedia:Moving a page. Seagull123 Φ 18:35, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Fixing ping - @Bhebhel1. Seagull123 Φ 18:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Theroadislong (talk) 18:41, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Shared IP address

I got a notification that I apparently changed an article to something that was clearly spam/not helpful. I have never edited a wikipedia article, should I be concerned? Is my computer hacked? - Tom C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.126.86.203 (talk) 19:49, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Tom, presumably not. Explanation: When you are not logged in to any account, the software behind Wikipedia relies on your IP adress to identify you. Unfortunally, IP adresses can change over time. The message that you refer to was 20th october 2020, so about 19 days ago. It almost certainly wasn't adressed at you. See also the notice on every Ip talk page: This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's IP address. Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:58, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry for the next message, but then I got a message saying I deleted something I wasn't supposed to. I am very confused right now, I don't think I deleted anything today, maybe I tried to change my signature, because I didn't know I was supposed to do the ~~. Genuinely a bit confused today. (73.126.86.203 (talk) 02:16, 9 November 2020 (UTC))

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.126.86.203 (talk) 02:15, 9 November 2020 (UTC) 

You get your internet service from COMCAST. COMCAST has assigned you a dynamic IP address that is changing frequently. You will continue to get these notifications as long as you are using dynamic IP addresses like this. This IP address is actually assigned to the router in your home or business or library or whatever, not to your specific computer, so other computers at the same location may be making the edits that cause the problems. The way to avoid getting these messages is to create an account and log in. -Arch dude (talk) 04:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I think that when you tried to change your signature you edited an old version of this page and didn't notice the warning "You are editing an old revision of this page. If you publish it, any changes made since then will be removed. You may wish to edit the current revision instead." The edit did remove all changes made since the version you were editing and was therefore reverted. TSventon (talk) 12:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Broken EBSCOhost Connection links

I just noticed that external links to EBSCOhost Connection are broken due to changes by EBSCOhost. These links are often used in citations when a source is available through EBSCOhost but not elsewhere. A list of such links can be seen at Special:LinkSearch/connection.ebscohost.com: for example, http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/abstracts/40100870/integral-city-evolutionary-intelligences-human-hive is linked from a citation in Integral City.

Before any action is taken, more research needs to be done. I have not been able to discover why exactly links to http://connection.ebscohost.com don't work anymore and whether there is some replacement URL. Any help in uncovering more information would be greatly appreciated.

It's important to figure this out because EBSCOhost is an important article database provider, and there are many such links in Wikipedia. Biogeographist (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

We have contacts at EBSCO who might be able to help us map the URLs to un-broken ones for a bot/AWB run. If that would be helpful please ping/email/talk me :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 22:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): Yes, asking an EBSCO contact about mapping the URLs would be very helpful, please do it if possible. Biogeographist (talk) 22:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): One thing I know about the URL syntax is that the number in each URL is EBSCO's accession number, so if EBSCO recommends a replacement URL structure, that number could be extracted from the old URLs and inserted into the new ones. Biogeographist (talk) 22:51, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): If you are going to change all these citations, and if the url can be constructed from the accession number, I recommend that you create a template that uses the accession number as a parameter. This will avoid the need to do yet another mass change in the future. -Arch dude (talk) 04:15, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude and Samwalton9 (WMF): There is already a template, {{EBSCOhost}} (created by Genericusername57), but it has never worked for me, and I just tried the template again now with an accession number that I know I can access through my library's EZproxy, and the template still doesn't work. (By the way, the old EBSCOhost Connection links at http://connection.ebscohost.com were great because they provided plenty of information about the cited resource even to people without EBSCOhost access.) So replacing all the URLs with the template is a possible solution, but the template would need to be fixed, so the question remains: What, if anything, is EBSCO's new URL structure that permits accessing EBSCOhost resources from links on the web? Biogeographist (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Samwalton9 (WMF): Custom templates are rarely a good idea for a lot of reasons. I've spent more time unwinding these things due to unforeseeable changes at the remote site. For example some of the URLs change to a new site but some do not ie. the custom template breaks and can't be fixed, now requiring custom code to unwind the template back into standard CS1|2 templates. There is no shortcut with URLs each one has to be treated atomically, checked and verified, the remote sites do all sorts of things on a per-URL basis. -- GreenC 17:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Am I allowed to put links to my social media pages on my user page?

I understand that I am not supposed to use the user page itself as a social medium, but may I include links to my social media accounts on it? Félix An (talk) 23:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I believe it is allowed, as long as it it not promotional. See the section "Personal and privacy-breaching material" on WP:USER. Note that once you disclose this info on your userpage, it is public forever, so be careful. RudolfRed (talk) 00:31, 9 November 2020 (UTC)