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April 11

Spygate (conspiracy theory by Donald Trump)

This article is complete trash. It's disgraceful - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spygate_(conspiracy_theory_by_Donald_Trump) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.234.210 (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Your comment appears to have nothing to do with the section in which you placed it, so I have added a new section heading. If you have improvements to suggest, the place to suggest them is on the article talk page, supported by references to published reliable sources. It is not constructive to try repeatedly to delete the entire existing content of the talk page, which is why the edit filter stopped you from doing it. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

False/Inaccurate Information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Mureta

This guy is a scammer, and he is utilizing wikipedia to spread false information about his 'app empire'. His book has tons of fake 5 star reviews: https://www.amazon.com/App-Empire-Make-Money-Technology/product-reviews/111810787X/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_paging_btm_next_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=2#reviews-filter-bar

If you use sites like sensortower.com, you can see that his apps never make more than $5k revenue in a single month. This dates back to 2010.

He has convinced folks like tony robbins about his story.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fingerprint-security-pro/id312912865?mt=8

This is the app he claims make $500k in revenue.

Many of his sources are broken links, i.e. http://topappcharts.com/312912865/app-details-fingerprint-security-pro.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:2AE0:1A7:85B8:9584:7FD4:7FC0 (talk) 02:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I have made a start by cutting blatantly promotional material from the article, but it could use much more attention. – Teratix ₵ 04:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit information on Wikipedia school information

How do I add an individual's information and add a link to his profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donwijesinghe (talk • contribs) 04:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Donwijesinghe: You don't, unless the individual is notable. Please read WP:NOT. We do not have profiles, we have articles, and an article must be about a subject that is notable by our definition. Please see WP:N. -Arch dude (talk) 04:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

marium-u-zamani

I want to edit something on marium-u-zamani page,how can i edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firangim (talk • contribs) 07:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

We don't have a page marium-u-zamani. Which page did you have in mind? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

It looks as if you meant Mariam-uz-Zamani, and that you found how to edit it but your edits were reverted as you were removing sourced text. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

kindly delete it from because may be hackers can attack my computer if the can find my IP

Dear Wikipedia:Help desk

i made an old article with out log-in and my ip was

kindly delete it from

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:1981BillPaul.jpg&action=history

because may be hackers can attack my computer if the can find my IP

best regards user Assadabdulrahman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assadabdulrahman (talk • contribs) 07:22, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Assadabdulrahman - I've suppressed the IP address information from that edit for you. You're all set. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Assadabdulrahman: You can ask for Wikipedia administrators to remove from public sight your IP from edit logs for privacy reasons and Oshwah did so. This is routinely done for logged-out edit in order to avoid association of a user account with an IP address, because the IP address can give out your geographical location.

However, you seem to be under the impression that knowledge of a computer's IP address allows to crack it. That is not the case (except maybe if you modified the configuration of your router firewall in an atrocious way, but there is no way you did that by accident or without knowing). The IP address is not sensitive information - for example, every internet website you visit knows your IP address, because that's how they know how to send you the page you requested (see TCP/IP for the technical details). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Just for future reference, if anyone wants to know: Personal information (which does include IP addresses of contributors with accounts) is usually redacted using WP:SUPPRESSion rather than regular revdel, which is basically the same thing but only people who've signed a NDA and have the permission can see it after. You'd also usually want to use a private means of communication to request it, typically via email to oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org or by finding an Oversighter to bug on one of our IRC channels. While most people here are nice, this is still a public noticeboard that anyone can read, which means if you post enough information for someone to find the information in order to delete it, anyone who chances upon it, including any hackers or stalkers or whatever, may see and act on it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I create a disambiguation?

Hello,I would like to disambiguate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Library_(St._Patrick%27s_College) from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Russell_Library_for_Political_Research_and_Studies There is a redirect that I might also need to change-- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Russell_Library&redirect=no to the new disambiguation page I guess? If there a simple instructions on how to do this I am happy to give it a go. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 11:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

• I would suggest you go through Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Disambiguation pages and subsequent to that Wikipedia:Disambiguation dos and don'ts. If you need more assistance after reading up on these, feel free to ask again. Lourdes 11:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lourdes: Thanks for those links! I could be wrong, but based on what I read, it looks like this redirect page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Russell_Library&redirect=no should be renamed as Russell Library (disambiguation) otherwise there will exist a Russell Library redirect page to the library in Georgia and a Russell Library (disambiguation) page with the Irish and the Georgian libraries on it.AugusteBlanqui (talk) 12:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I've asked about this on Wikiproject Disambiguation. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Starting a WikiProject.

I am trying to start a new WikiProject. What is the procedure in doing that?

SHBE2019 (talk) 13:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@SHBE2019: This should help Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide#Creating_a_WikiProject. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:01, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Issues creating a citation to a foreign-language Wikisource page

Hi. I've been struggling to create a link within a citation to a Wikisource page. The best I can come up with so far is this:

Choudhury, Achyut Charan (1917). Srihattar Itibritta  (in Bengali). Calcutta. pp. 312–330 – via Wikisource.{{citation}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

The link leads to a dead end and I'm not sure where I've gone wrong.

The link to the actual page is this. (For some reason, you have to click on the foreign-language link directly below the title to be led to the right page).

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Alivardi (talk) 13:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Alivardi: You were almost there. The following correctly links to something in Bengali wikisource (but not the same URL, you might have to check the target link - I have no idea whether those are connected works or entirely different, as I do not read Bengali):

Choudhury, Achyut Charan (1917). Srihattar Itibritta  (in Bengali). Calcutta. pp. 312–330 – via Wikisource.{{citation}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

Your error was putting "ISO 639-1" in the language code - the correct version is wslanguage=bn. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Story of life, having the tiniest mistake mess everything up... But thank you! This was a big help. Yes they are the same work, one link just led to a specific page. Alivardi (talk) 14:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

There is another problem with that citation that is neither your fault nor the fault of {{cite wikisource}} but is, I think, the fault of editors at bn.wikisource.

{{cite wikisource}} translates:

|wslink=নির্ঘণ্ট:শ্রীহট্টের ইতিবৃত্ত - পূর্বাংশ.pdf

to:

[[s:bn:নির্ঘণ্ট:শ্রীহট্টের ইতিবৃত্ত - পূর্বাংশ.pdf]]

That translation is handed-off to Module:Citation/CS1 which translates it to:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/bn:নির্ঘণ্ট:শ্রীহট্টের ইতিবৃত্ত_-_পূর্বাংশ.pdf

This last translation is done so that the module can render the citation with the proper wikisource icon instead of the usual external link icon.

The problem arises because of the .pdf file extension. Module:Citation/CS1 replaces the external link icon with the wikisource icon:

Choudhury, Achyut Charan (1917). Srihattar Itibritta  (in Bengali). Calcutta. pp. 312–330 – via Wikisource.{{citation}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) – |wslink=নির্ঘণ্ট:শ্রীহট্টের ইতিবৃত্ত - পূর্বাংশ – this example doesn't work because that page (without the .pdf file extension) doesn't exist

Then the whole citation is handed-off to MediaWiki for rendering into html. MediaWiki, because of rules in MediaWiki:Common.css and the .pdf file extension, replaces the wikisource icon with the PDF icon. But, and here, finally is the point of all of this:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/bn:নির্ঘণ্ট:শ্রীহট্টের ইতিবৃত্ত_-_পূর্বাংশ.pdf does not point to a PDF document; it points to an HTML document and thereby misleads readers.

The page at bn.wikisource (and subsidiary pages) should be renamed to remove the .pdf file extension. Someone who speaks Bengali might raise this issue at bn.wikisource where it can be fixed. I'll hold my breath while I wait for that to happen, shall I?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Yeah I thought the pdf thing was a bit weird. But would it be possible to correct the issue myself? Perhaps moving the document like you would do to an article here? Or would I have to move each individual page? Alivardi (talk) 18:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't know the answer to that which is why I suggested raising the issue at bn.wikisource.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

i have a question

can i do what i want in sandbox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SynysterSteak (talk • contribs) 16:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

SynysterSteak, Yes, as long as it does not break any of the policies. For example, you cannot use Non-Free images in the sandbox. WelpThatWorked (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@SynysterSteak:No, you cannot. Your sandbox is primarily under your control, but it is basically an extension of your user page and is intended to be used by you to do stuff that relates to building Wikipedia. It is not a place for blogging, web hosting, or anything else that is not in some way related to building or maintaining Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 20:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

comments to me about edits that I did not make.

There seems to be two recent comments (talk) regarding objections to contributions which comments are directed at me referring to an IP address that is supposed to be mine. It says that the IP is registered in Nassau County, but I live in France. I believe that someone may have deliberately registered my IP address in Nassau County (New York State) and then made questionable contributions, somehow using that IP, including one which is characterized as vandalism. I do not know enough about such things to know how such a thing could be done, but I know of someone in Nassau County that would be capable of such an improper act. (I will not name the person at this time, in part because it is a family member, albeit a hostile one.) please let me know if there is some way to stop this misuse of an IP number that seems (also) to belong to my computer here in France. Thanks for any assistance. John Serry (user name jserry)Jserry (talk) 16:54, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

An IP's user talk page will usually include a notice along the lines of MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext, as IP addresses may be used by a number of different people. If you stick to editing from your registered account, and keep the credentials of that account protected, you ought not to have problems. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] I can see only one comment on your account's Talk Page, which (from the View history tab of that page) is dated 8th May 2012. Since you are here posting via a Wikipedia account, I cannot see what your current IP is: are you referring to whatever your IP is when you are not logged in to Wikipedia? If so, check the dates of the comments in question, and be aware that many IP addresses are not permanent, but can be reassigned by ISPs, particularly over long periods. My own ISP only provides dynamic IPs, so I get a different one every time I happen to switch off and then switch on my router. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 17:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Thereaderwiki.com

Thereaderwiki.com claims that it is a "reader view of Wikipedia". Is this claim true? Is this site some sister organization of Wikipedia? While doing a GAR of Hormizd II, the Copyvio Detector says that 95% of the article is copied from the readerwiki. RRD (talk) 16:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: It's not affiliated, it is one of many WP:MIRROR sites. As long as proper attribution is given, it is OK. RudolfRed (talk) 17:01, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

New article

Hello

It's my first time using your service , I am really enjoying it but I have an issue , I am rying to create an article about my dad that is a politician and a minister of agriculture here in Greece , I tried uploading a photo on the article , the photo is owned by us but the verification system doesn't accept the upload. Can you please help me with my issue ?

Thank you for taking the time to read my submission Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steliospavlidis (talk • contribs) 20:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Steliospavlidis, Hi, It would be useful to know

A) What Method You are using to upload

B) What error/message you are getting.

Thanks, and I Hope I can help! WelpThatWorked (talk) 00:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Steliospavlidis, and welcome to English Wikipedia. I don't want to sound negative, but I want to warn you that you have taken on a very very difficult task. First, creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia, and I always advise new users to make a few hundred edits improving existing articles before they try it: please look at your first article.

Secondly, writing an article about a family member is even harder, because it is so much harder to write neutrally. If you go ahead and do it anyway, then you need to read all about editing with a conflict of interest.

Thirdly, if you are creating an article, I advise not worrying about images until you have done the important part, which is finding several reliably published sources, wholly unconnected with the subject of the article. Without such sources, it is impossible to establish that the subject is notable (though if your father is a minister in a national government, he probably is notable).

Fourthly, Wikipedia will not accept any information which has not already been published in a reliable place (so it will not accept anything just from your personal knowledge, or from unpublished documents); it is not much interested in what the subject says, or what their relatives or associates say about them; and it has no interest at all in what the subject wishes to be said or not said about them. It is only interested in what people who have no connection about the subject have chosen to publish about them. (These sources do not have to be in English, or online, though it is helpful if they are).

Finally, when you do get to the point of thinking about an image, the owner of the copyright (who is usually not the subject, unless a contract assigned it to them) must agree to release the image under a licence that will allow anybody to reuse the image for any purpose. See donating copyright materials.

I really suggest you leave an article about your father alone, and find other places in Wikipedia where you are interested in contributing. --ColinFine (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)