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December 13

about herb & spices

hello there.. I'm a chef working in seafood resturent in sydney. i just log in to ur web page this is really ameging. i was wounder about herb & spices i really enjoyed. thakx for ur hard work & ur valuvble time.

i just want ask u that do u have any books written about herb & spices.. if ur answer is yes , how can i buy that book & where can i buy,,

sorry i'm giving extra trouble for u. i'm really sorry.. if u send me answer via email..i'm really very thankxfull to you.

my id is:- email removed

My regards to Wikipedia team & mangement

thaking you once again

Wikipedia is not a book sales organization. --Wooty Woot? contribs 00:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. However, we do have a list of herbs and spices, with many, many articles you can access from that list. If you want to buy a book, please go to one of the many online bookstores.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• If I remember correctly either our article on Pepper or Black pepper is amazing. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

HELP Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired.

I keep receiving this message: "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired." What can I do about it?

• Only the most recent confirmation code will work. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

How to create a section of text that must be kept together as one word?

Question:

While editing a page, I use a word that can exist in both singular and plural forms (i.e. "taxpayer(s)"), and the Wiki page can sometimes show this on two seperate lines - with "taxpayer" and "(s)" seperated.

Is it possible, via some mark or command, to indicate that this item [taxpayer(s)] should always be treated as a single word?

Thanks

Jharris1993 23:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

This should do it <nobr>long thing</nobr> though see here as that may be nonstandard.--Justanother 23:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ummm... It didn't work. I tried it, and when I preview the edit, I actually SEE the markup tags.

Viz. <nobr>taxpayer(s)</nobr> is actually rendered on the preview page as "... <nobr>taxpayer(s)</nobr>..." (the "..." is the preceeding/following content)

Did I miss something here? Or does Wikipedia just not do that?

Thanks again!

Jharris1993 06:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You can't use <nobr> on Wikipedia, because it filters out all but a small subset of HTML tags. There might be something in CSS to do what you want, but I can't seem to find it in my (outdated) CSS reference. --ais523 09:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The CSS attribute you're looking for is "white-space: nowrap". We actually have a template named {{nobr}} that uses it so you don't have to remember it every time. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 09:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good - but how do I encorporate the "template" you advise? Put it before and after the phrase?

Sorry to be such a noob...

Jharris1993 19:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

{{nowrap|your text}} The vert line is a pipe = Shift \ --Justanother 19:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You use it like this {{nowrap|"your text"}}. Parutakupiu ^{talk || contribs} 19:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Deleting user

I'm wondering if it's possible to have an old user account deleted (i.e. not simply renamed). As people whom I wanted to remain ignorant about my contributions to Wikipedia seem to be catching on to my identity, and my numerous contributions, through my other (old) account and its history, I'd like it to be erased. Can this be done? --G2bambino 23:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

No, because of legal reasons with the GFDL. (WP:USER) Cbrown1023 00:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Username#Deleting_your_user_account and its links for more information and possible other options. Cbrown1023 00:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. --G2bambino 00:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

History of the board game Monopoly

Looks like somebody hacked this new featured article and put "FAGGOTS" real big across the top and put up a huge picture of hairy testicles multiple times above the article. You might want to check in on this. Just a thought. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.81.133.156 (talk) 00:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Luckily, the featured article gets seen by lots of people, so it was fixed rather quickly. - Kesh 03:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Martin Lawrence Show

Please advise when the Martin Lawrence television show will be coming to video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rozze (talk • contribs) 02:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Try the Reference desk. — Seadog 02:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Citations

Is there an FA or GA standard for reference marks? If so, what is it? Thanks - NinaEliza 02:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:REF#How to cite sources WP:WIAGA WP:WIAFA Cbrown1023 02:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I have noticed that people prefer WP:FOOT (footnotes). Cbrown1023 02:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks C, that's exactly what I needed. Footnotes kinda seem easiest anyway and I want to develop good habits when I learn something. Thanks again, NinaEliza 02:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi again,

I can't get seem to past "fire bad, tree pretty" in my thought process right now. Is there a difference between references and citations? I want the little number that appears next to a sentence that directs you to the URL at the bottom of the page. If it matters, I used citation templates for my sources. I'm not even sure I'm asking the right questions, because I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Forgive me in advance.NinaEliza 03:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Citations and references are pretty much the same thing. Footnotes are those little links that send you to the bottom of the page (see The Public Enemy#References). Cbrown1023 03:03, 13 December 2006

Perfect - thanks so much!

Corrections to the article title

Well, everything went fine except that now I need to correct the main title (above the rule) and can't seem to find anything addressing such a basic (stupid) error. I am the author...how do I do it?Tango1945 02:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

hit the "move" button at the top of the page and move it to the correct page. Cbrown1023 02:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Unless something has changed recently, accounts need to be four days old to move pages. Tango's first edit was today so his account may not have reached move threshold senescence. In any event Tango, the page cannot presently be moved except by an adminstrator because you have recreated the article under the correct name. This is called a cut and paste move and is frowned upon because it destroys the page history. You have a number of options. First, you can place the template {{db-author}} on the pasted page, then move the incorrectly named page to the correct name, or if your account is not old enough, someone else will be happy to. Second, you can simply make the old name a redirect to the new page. While this won't fix the page history problem, as you are the only editor it doesn't really matter too much in this instance (let's not elevate form over substance). Finally, you can simply wait for an administrator to read these posts and take matters into his or her own hands, or place {{helpme}} on the article's talk page and explain the problem and an admin will be by in not too long most likely.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India

Sir,

The photograph posted at the top of this article is highly offensive. As an Indian, this is extremely appalling to me and my fellow Indians. I would like you to remove this image at the earliest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.210.79.227 (talk) 05:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Looks like there was some vandalism on that page, but someone already got it taken care of. Keep in mind, when you see vandalism you can fix it yourself also. See here for instructions, if you're so inclined. -- Kesh 06:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Love By Design name/title change to upper/lower case

Can you please tell me how to change my entry page for Love By Design to upper/lower case? Currently it is listed as Love by design in the search as well as the title. Your help is much appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Mike Goshon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mgoshon (talk • contribs) 05:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Got it. Click "edit" and look at the code to see how.--Kchase T 05:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Articles doesn't appear to follow music guidelines. I've userfied and left the author a note. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

can't update article talk page

I have tried several times to add information to the talk page for article 'benny hill'. when I submit it, it gives me a can 't find page error each time. What could be wrong? Jerry lavoie 05:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• The servers are probably overloaded. Just try again later. Also, make sure you got your capitalization correct when you talk about articles. Benny Hill and benny hill are different articles (unless one was pointed to the other). - 131.211.210.14 08:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• I get that error on some versions of IE6; it's not a Wikipedia issue but happens on all websites where I upload data (forums, etc.). For some reason, opening the edit page in a second window, waiting for it to load, and then saving the edit in the first window usually works, but it's annoying to have to do. The other possibility is to use the https interface, which works around many browser and ISP errors (slower, and despite the URL it isn't any more secure than the normal interface); there's a link to it on my userpage User:ais523. --ais523 09:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Try using https: instead of http: and check if cookies are enabled. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Bots

I want to view the code that operates bots for example AntiVandalBot. How can I do this? Thank you.

--Meno25 09:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Some bots keep their code secret (AntiVandalBot does, for instance, to prevent vandals finding out ways to get around the bot). Other bots publish all or some of their code; normally, it'll be linked from their userpage or their WP:BRFA tasks page. For instance, see User:Pearle/pearle.pl or User:Bot523/monobook.js. Still other bots use WP:AWB or m:pywikipedia as frameworks; in such cases, the code is often simple to write because most of the work has already been done. --ais523 10:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

How do I create an article?

I know this question must have been answered many times before. But I accessed the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page pages and I still could not really get the solution/a list of steps, which show how to do it. Please do help me with it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shubhox (talk • contribs) 10:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Ok, there are 2 main ways (there may be more I don't know).

• Make a red link (the code looks like [[James086]] to the title of the article you want to make)so maybe James086 (theres no article on me obviously) and then click that link and edit the page
• Or search "James086" (making sure you click "Go" instead of "Search") and near the top (above the results) there will be:

No page with that title exists.

You can create this page or request it.

• See all pages within Wikipedia that link to this page.
• See all pages that begin with this prefix.

Some of the words will be linked and just click "create this page" which will be red.

Of course you won't be writing an article about me, but I think I make a nice example. Hope it helps. James086^{Talk | Contribs} 11:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, at the top of Help:Starting a new page, there is a large box where you can type in the name of the article you want to create. Do so, and click the "Create Page" button. You will then be taken to a page with a large, blank text box. Type your article in there, leave a short description of it in the "edit summary" box (just below the big box). You can use "Show preview" to see what your article will look like, when you're happy with it, click on the "Save page" button. Voilà, you have just created your first article! Hope that helps! — QuantumEleven 12:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Also, don't forget to properly capitalize the article title and check to see if it's already available under another title. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Moving article from en-version to da-version

Dear someone

I have started an article in danish about Hvedholm Castle. You can find it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hvedholm_Slot&action=edit

It appears, that I've created it in the english version of wikipedia. Since it's written in danish, wouldn't it then be most proper to have it published at da.wikipedia.org?

How do I move it?

Yours

Kenneth Ley Milling (Kmilling) web editor, Center for Professional Development in Journalism —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kmilling (talk • contribs) 11:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Hi there! There is no facility to move articles between different-language Wikipedias, what you have to do is re-create the article on the Danish Wikipedia (copy and paste the contents). The article on the English Wikipedia will be deleted by an administrator (the delete notice has already been added to the article). Hope that helps! — QuantumEleven 12:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

tech help

where do i found out examples and other different add-on or extras to add to an article such as the "{{Infobox_Company |" etc. thanks. peace —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cubixrube (talk • contribs) 13:38, December 13, 2006 (UTC).

In general, anything contained in curly quotes (like this: {{something}}) is called a template, you can read all about them at Wikipedia:Template messages, which also has a comprehensive list of templates. For technical information on how templates work, check out Wikipedia:Template namespace. The one you mentioned in your question is called an Infobox, you can find a list of them at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes and information on how they work and how to use them at Help:Infobox. Hope this helps! — QuantumEleven 12:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

logging in

I continually get logged out (or so it appears). When I log in, then go back to the page I want to edit, I again see "Sign in/create account" at the top of the page, and I get the "You are not currently logged in..." message. I looked at the FAQ, and I can't find an answer (I have cookies enabled), and I checked "Remember Me".

Try refreshing the cache by holding the Shift key and clicking the refresh button on your browser, after you have logged in. If you log in, and then click Back to go back to the page you were on, you will get the old cached version of the page from when you hadn't yet logged in. Doing the refresh should fix the problem. If that doesn't work, post here again. —P^urpleRA^IN 16:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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It didn't work. From the "Login Successful" page, I click on "my preferences" and get the "not logged in" page. I should have added that I'm using Linux and Firefox, and that I have successfully edited pages in the past with this machine. I also know that my machine is accepting cookies: I can view them under en.wikipedia.org.

Are you using a satellite ISP? In such cases, there's a link near the top of WP:VPT that solves login problems for such users (it's an alternative, slower link to Wikipedia via https:). I also have the link on my userpage. --ais523 16:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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Yes! Thanks very much. I am indeed using a satellite ISP (Hughes). We have little other choice other than phone connection in Puerto Rico.

Edit removals

How come my edit keeps getting reverted?

I was editing this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_universe

and I want this to be displayed: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Student_Universe&oldid=92934970

I work for this company so I don't understand what's the problem. Please email me at [email removed]

It could be that the page seems to very much violate WP:NPOV (our neutral point of view policy). Pages are not allowed to be biased and this sounds like an advertisement. Check out Expedia for an example of the kind of things that a travel website article should and should not have. Also, Wikipedia has a no original research policy, read that link for more info on that. It's possible an automated bot found your edit and saw a lot of signs of breaking NPOV, and NOR and while I don't think a complete revert is the best move, it may have been necessary because Wikipedia is not for advertisements and information must have a valid sighted source were broken. Chris M. 14:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The bot recognized that you were adding telephone numbers and email addresses to the article, which is not allowed. At any rate, Mason is correct; the language used sounds like an advertisement, so please restate it before adding it back in. -Patstuart^talk|edits 16:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, someone who works for the company probably should not be editing an article about said company. It's a potential conflict of interest. -- Kesh 18:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Repentent sockpuppets

A new user (User:Pedersen12) suddenly signed up and backed up the creator of a page who was contesting speedy deletion (Hallett_Cove_School) in what looked an awful lot like blatant sockpuppetry. I was going to report it when the comment they'd left was removed (it was on the talk page for less than a minute).

What's the procedure here? Should the talk page be reverted to display the comment? Should we assume good faith, and that the suspected sockpuppet thought better of it and will not do it again, or still go and report suspected sockpuppetry? Squeezeweasel 14:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

It's probably best to ignore this for the time being; check the user's contribs to make sure it isn't more widespread first. --ais523 15:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You can also take a look at {{spa}}. This can be used to mark contributions by suspected single-purpose accounts.

Example: — PurpleRain (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

—P^urpleRA^IN 16:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much. My instinct was, as you suggest, to leave it - I'll keep an eye out in case it happens again. Squeezeweasel 16:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Unable to write an article in Vikipedia as the interface is too complicated.

I have lot of information (Encyclopediac ) on Indian railways, and some information on Mathematics. I find it extremely difficult to put a new article in Vikipedia categories, though i am a computer programmer. ALl FAq and helps are of no use. please mail me a step by step guide on how to post a new artcile in the Category Named passenger trains of India on Udyan express. the LLetter U does not even appeasr as aheading in the category. I have information on tipp of my tongue for almost every aspect of indian railways and yet i could not contribute as the help and interface is too comlicated. I could not add an article on Mathematician Jack Edmonds for the same reason No letter E was listed in the category Mathematiicans of 21 st century. i made 4 edits for Udyan express . i do not Know whwere they have gone. please guide me step by step las follows 1. go to the concerned category 2 Then what to do with the stub where to make entry on the heading or in the blank space. 3 Whether to click on the article or ton edit this page 4should i clock on the named passenger trains of India heading page or on the new page when it comes. 4. If it is so difficult for an expert c programmer like me how difficult it could be for a common person ? 7. please see the model in the book written by me Chetana publications Mumbai . In eactly 10 steps i have told user how to write and where to write a new c program in turbo C how to save . steps to correct mistakes rather than showing thousanda of menus. 8. Many persons especiaaly Mathematiicans are averse to drawing and visual interface. We prefer step by step meticulos interface. Kindly guide by sending a detailed e-mail on my address <email address removed>. i can contribute a lot with authentic info but I do not have time to master a comlicated interface. i have low I.Q in this area. Prof. anil Pedgaonkar. please see the mess created by inspecting my log in trying to create a n article on Udyan express in the category on named passenger trains of india. i could not use stubs also properly. Surely the help guide can be more friendly and help lots of very Knowlegeable users by telling them how to create n atricle in a category and how to give heading. i do not understand second level third level headings etc. the interface should be Heaading for your article. the category you intend in a tree structure. prof anil pedgaonkart Anil.pedgaonkar 15:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC) anil.pedgaonkar

Categories can only list articles that already exist, not ones that haven't been written yet, so you'll have to make the article first. To create a new article, go to Help:Starting a new page, type the title of the article into the box provided, and click "Create page". Then start writing! Once the article is done, you can add it to the "Named passenger trains in India" category by putting [[Category:Named passenger trains in India]] at the bottom of the article. --Kwekubo 15:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm hesitant to point this out, but your "expert c programmer" comment promted me to chime in. If you couldn't discover how to create a page, have difficulty spelling (including your name) and are unable to use grammar and capitals correctly, I'm skeptical that you could write an article that wouldn't need to be totally rewritten to conform to standards. I don't mean to discourage you from creating an article, but please hold back the condescending, negative tone—flaunting credentials does not help. BigNate37_(T) 19:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Then Just What IS a 'User Name'?

209.247.22.99 16:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)I've used both my screenames (with different passwords), created an entirely new one, and even tried my own name: Dan Nichols, but I get the same reply each time: "There is no user by the name '(Whatever)'". Please check your spelling, etc.I thought user names were supposed to be unique, and not already used by anyone else. Should I use my pet's name?

209.247.22.99 16:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Dan Nichols 209.247.22.99 16:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You need to make sure that you click on the link to create a username. That is on the login page. The username creation form will request a password twice, and ask for an email - a good idea if not required. Hope that helps, Nihiltres 16:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

See Help:Logging in. You may have used improprer capitalization, or registered at another Wiki. Patstuart^talk|edits 16:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Creating or editing maps

Can anyone point me to a tutorial on creating or editing maps? I'm specially interested in creating the type of maps that are very common in wikipedia where countries or portions of countries are identified with diferent colors based on some type of information. thx Estefan 16:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're looking for, but perhaps you'd like to check out Image:BlankMap-World.png and the way the image is done at Whipple Dam State Park. If this isn't what you're looking for, perhaps you could give us some examples of what you are?Patstuart^talk|edits 17:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thx, I can see the map, but now i want to be able to edit it. For example create a map like the the one here "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_Penalty_World_Map.png". How do i zoom in, paint countries with different collors and assign leyends. What software should i use. Is there a tutorial for doing it? How much detail can i get in terms of subnational divisions (states, provinces)? Estefan 00:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Number of article views

Can I see how often an article has been viewed? How about the average duration of the viewing? 17:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Eric

Wikipedia turned off its page-hit counters for performance reasons. A small amount of information is gathered; there's links to all the available information at Special:Statistics. --ais523 17:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

links

How does one create a link? This must be known by everyone but me since it's not covered in any of your instructions or FAQ. Please advise as I would like to submit an entry.17:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)~~

By placing it in a pair of square brackets: [[Help:Link]] produces Help:Link (which contains more information about links, if you're interested). By the way, your signature is 4 tildes (~~~~), not seven. --ais523 17:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Tutorial. This covers many things you might need to know. "Wikipedia links" is one of the tabs at the top of the article. Notinasnaid 17:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Another easy way to find out how to do something is find a place where it's done. (No problem with something like a link) and go into edit mode to see how it was achieved (and hitting cancel afterwards). - Mgm|^(talk) 18:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

If you mean a link to an outside website, you can use an external link. As an example, this is a link to Google. -- Kesh 18:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Citing an Interview?

Hello,

I recently created a Wikipedia page for my boss, however this is the first time that I've ever done this so I'm unclear as to how to cite sources for interviews of living persons. I read the entry for this and it said to email, so that's what I'm doing. Very little, if any, of this information is cited in any published texts, but seems since the article is about this person and the content came directly from them that it would be alright.

Anyway please help me figure this out if you're able to. The page that I'm referring to is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Huxley

Thanks for the help!

Ryankendle 19:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, private interviews cannot be used as sources, which if I understand correctly is what you're asking about. It must be published in a secondary source, such as a newspaper or similar to be useable. This stems from the fact that everything in Wikipedia has to be verifiable, and unless someone can check your source and verify what you write then the content is unacceptable. Anyways, take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources. BigNate37_(T) 19:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... That's unfortunate, for me... Anyway, thanks for the help, I appreciate it. Ryankendle 20:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Ryan, this isn't as catastrophic as it might sound. I've made some edits to the page, and I'd say he's notable on several counts. The page you created about Craig needs some cleanup and citations, that's not impossible to do. If you devote some time to reading some of the relevant guidelines/policies, like WP:BIO, WP:COI, WP:NOT, steer clear of the "not's" mentioned, the page will be fine. I'm a little unsure if the page should be under his birth name, or the stage name. Regardless, I created a "redirect page" under "Hundley" that shoots over to "Huxley."

Several years ago, I was this close (holds fingers 2mm apart) to acquiring a copy of his Genesis Project (?) album released on the Sonic Atmospheres label when I was producing a radio program at an Alabama public radio station. Darn it, I didn't; hearing his "Genesis" composition on its own was cool. Regardless, I think the liner booklet had some information that could be cited. Any interviews or bios in published media are admissible. (See WP:CITE for instructions on how to cite references, WP:CITET for handy templates for citing.) If you need help, take a look at the "welcome" stuff I just put on your talk page. Or add a note to mine, I'll see what I can do to assist you. Oh, and tell "Peter Kirk" I said hi. He won't know me from Adam, but I know of him. ;) David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 20:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Private interviews cannot be used as sources, but they can be used as "Further reading". Still, you need to find reliable sources for any claims made in the article. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd be a bit careful of using it as "further reading" if the source is not verifiable. There is currently a big debate going on at our "External links" guideline page over what should or shouldn't be considered a good external link, which includes/is synonymous with things such as "Further reading". Zunaid©^{Please rate me at Editor Review!} 10:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Categorizational Sorting

Is it possible to sort a category numerically? I was looking specifically at Category:Chromosomes and other categories like it. --Antsh 19:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, unfortunately. However, you can find a numerically-ordered list at Chromosome. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 23:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe. If on the article's page the syntax [[Category:Chromosome|12345]] is used, then the article's name will be sorted on the category page as if its name were "12345". The article's actual title is shown on the category page, but it's sorted as the string after the "pipe" in the Category tag. Note that this may or may not be an intentional "feature" of the MediaWiki sources and therefore may or may not be supported indefinitely. Fuzzyeric 05:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Including video in an article, what template to use?

I want to include a video in an article (specifically to bong). I've searched but can't find the appropriate template to use. Is there one? Thank you, Triddle 19:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• I visited {{listen}}, moved to {{audio}} and eventually found {{video}}. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Sign-in confirmation email appears to work, then can't login

On Saturday, 12/9, I created my first ever user account here on wikipedia. A short while later, I received the Wikipedia e-mail address confirmation email, and I used its link, and received the "success" message.

However, when I then attempted to login, and each day since then that I have tried, it first tells me, "incorrect password entered"

So I try four permutations.

And then, lastly, when I give up, and click "E-mail new password" then I get a different error message: "Error sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user <name>" even though I successfully received the address confirmation email!

I have tried this in two different browsers, confirming in each that my cookie settings are correct per the FAQs here.

Thanks for your help! 24.18.210.137 20:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible that the username you are typing is incorrect? Wikipedia automatically capitalizes the first letter of every username and article, so if your original username started with a lowercase letter, you'll need to log in by typing the first letter in uppercase. —P^urpleRA^IN 20:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Molson Cup Toronto Maple Leaf Winners

If you want a complete list, let me know. I am doing work to the Molson Cup (Maple Leafs) now and can send you all of the winners if you wish. It looks like too much of a nightmare for me start putzing around with editting a page on my own with the fancy words and computer symbols. Email me back at email removed if you want them.

--Frank Bordieri

Sorry, but it's a bad idea to post your email address in a public forum like this. You'd be inviting spam bots to take advantage of that.

If you lack the time to write an article yourself, it might be best to ask a friend or coworker to edit the article for you. Keep in mind that a list would not be sufficient. It needs to be sourced so we can verify the list.

That said, if you really want to contribute, it's not all that hard to learn Wikipedia. If you're still uncomfortable, you could leave a note on the talk page for the Maple Leafs, so someone else can look up your sources and add them to the article. -- Kesh 22:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Editor can't see Wikipedia anymore

A gentleman contacted WP:OTRS with a technical problem I haven't been able to solve. He's getting nothing but a blank page when he tries to view Wikipedia; doesn't matter if he tries to hit the default index or uses a direct link to something deeper. No error messages, nothing in the status bar - he's using IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_ggdr.050301-151915. Clearing the cache and temp internet files didn't change anything. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to think of anything he's done since he was last able to see Wikipedia; I did look through recent Microsoft updates and couldn't find anything that might be related. He managed to find another site that does the same thing to him [1]. If anyone has any thoughts or ideas on how to troubleshoot this further, I would really appreciate the help. :) Shell ^babelfish 21:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Contact Brion Vibber about it, either onwiki or "brion" on IRC. —Pilotguy (push to talk) 22:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• What country is he located in? He could be being blocked. I agree, though, contact Brion. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both, I'll check in to that. Shell ^babelfish 00:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

My post was put as vandalism

I am wondering how someone who works for an industry has taken over the 'vandalism' part of editing. I am a journalist, international lawyer. Initially I saw what I changed with the 'fur' site could be seen as potentially as biased as what was originally up there. The last time I edited it was as neutral as anything existing within the journalistic myth of complete objectivity. The individual 'Eurotrash' has power to edit. I plan on finding out who that person is, what industry s/he works with and exposing it. Can you tell me how I can get to report anything I do not like as 'vandalism' and what your policy is in terms to biased people working on the 'vandalism' teams?

Thanks

almiospacio

• You may wish to read WP:NPOV to understand why your post was labelled as vandalism. WP:V dictates that vandalism is in intent, not content, so you may not be guilty of it, and I assume you're not. However, your edits to fur certainly read like vandalism, and editors are occasionally sloppy about describing well intentioned acts as vandalism because they look like it. WilyD 22:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

If you disagree with the revert, it's probably best to discuss your reasoning on the talk page for the article. It may not have been vandalism, but your edit was not neutral at all. -- Kesh 22:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• I might be jumping to conclusions, but I'd advise you to have a look at WP:THREAT before you "expose" he or she in any way. Also, I'd have to agree with the other two contributors above, and say that your edits are POV, and could also be regarded as vandalism by other users. Bjelleklang - talk 22:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

anthony walker

why has the anthony walker page been removed?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sherleylocks (talk • contribs).

It hasn't. The article is here: Anthony Walker.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Easily targeted pages

Is there any way to create a page that only certain members can edit?
we would need this to make a school page but previously pupils would abuse the page, so we would need a right for only a
few trusted people to edit.

Basically - no. Wikipedia is the Encyclopedia "anyone can edit"* - so what you ask would go against one of the basic principles.

• unless they turn out to be a vandal. --Charlesknight 23:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Are you intending that your pupils or staff collaborate on writing an article about their school based on what they know? This is not how Wikipedia articles are written; information must come from published reliable sources, and not only is it always possible for outside editors to write articles, it's in fact preferable - see conflict of interest. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 23:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Are you wanting to make a Wiki just for your school use? In that case, you might want to download Wiki software to run on your computer's own network. The software is freely available, and I'm sure someone can point out the link. -- Kesh 00:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I expect what the user may want is something like list of wiki software. This is indeed an inappropriate use of Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia that happens to use wiki software, not a general purpose wiki. -- nae'blis 23:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)