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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Serie A Footballer of the Year edit

Serie A Footballer of the Year (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:37, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded the table and the history prose considerably (modelling after Serie A Coach of the Year), and think that it now matches the community's expectations for a featured list. The previous FLC expired after one support, so hopefully this nom can get this to where we need it. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:37, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

Just a quick note, WP:ACMILAN doesn't seem to be respected. Unsure whether we should be writing "Inter Milan" or "Internazionale" though. Nehme1499 13:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done AC Milan and Inter Milan. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment
  • This FLC was never transcluded to the FLC page upon creation. I added it on 3 September..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • There's a few instances where you refer to a player as a footballer. I think it's pretty obvious that every winner of a football award is/was a footballer, so could you use "player" or their specific position instead?
  • That's all I got on a very quick first pass.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM edit

  • Lead feels a little weak to me.
  • "to Roberto Mancini.[2] " as he's known now as a manager, it would be useful to tell us who he played for.
  • "won the award while his team won the league" in the same season.
  • "and Francesco Totti, who became" overlinked.
  • "for AC Milan" our article is at A.C. Milan.
  • "in a playoff that" link for that?
  • "Diego Milito. Milito won" repetitive.
  • "would then equal" then equalled
  • "snapping" ending.
  • You have a position summary table but the positions aren't listed in the main table.
  • Link works/publications consistently, i.e. always or just once, first time, or never.
  • Check that works are italicised, e.g. ref 35, 39 etc

That's it on a quick pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:53, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@The Rambling Man: for AC Milan, see WP:ACMILAN. Nehme1499 16:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That makes literally no sense. Thanks. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: You can raise a discussion at WT:FOOTY if you wish. Nehme1499 17:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I won't be doing that. This local project "consensus" doesn't serve our readers so it can be safely ignored. Thanks! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:51, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: That's your opinion; don't be disruptive. Nehme1499 18:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're the one being disruptive. This is FLC, not WT:FOOTY, now leave me alone. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:11, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: This is a FLC about a football-related article, so WP:FOOTY consensus should be taken into consideration. Nehme1499 18:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And I have taken it into consideration and consider that it is not helpful to our readers. Now, I won't say it again, stop badgering me. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Well, with all due respect, the opinion of one single editor against local consensus isn't really that relevant. Thanks. Nehme1499 18:16, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done -2. Indifferent on the Milan thing, not sure what to do there. About the lead, do you have any suggestions, was just following the coaches lead? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: thoughts? @PresN:, @Guerillero: from previous nom, thoughts? Thanks, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man:, @PresN:, @Guerillero: Anything? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Let me take a look -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 20:06, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review — Pass edit

  • Suggesting to add ALT text to the last image.
  • Rest, image licencing looks good. Pass for image review. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Kavyansh.Singh: Done. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Guerillero: Is that enough to get a !support? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support Use "Milan" when referring to A.C. Milan AND "Inter" when referring to Inter Milan. OR use U.C. Sampdoria, S.S. Lazio, A.S. Roma, Juventus F.C. and Parma Calcio 1913. Remember, you can always ignore stupid shortcuts. --Cheetah (talk) 08:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is a very specific reason to using AC Milan, rather than Juventus FC. If you took the time to read the discussion linked at WP:ACMILAN, you would understand the logic behind it. Nehme1499 09:37, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review — Pass edit

Looks good. Pass for accessibility review. Dr Salvus 18:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nehme1499:, @Dr Salvus: Any !support or !oppose? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like it meets the criteria, so Support Dr Salvus 02:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At this point it looks like everything is sorted out with the exception of the "Milan" issue; given that it's based on an external consensus, and so small stakes that it feels ridiculous to hold up the nomination over it, I'm going to go ahead and promote. But it's an odd consensus. --PresN 23:08, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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