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Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!Edit

Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

  Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
  2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

  Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
  1. At least 8 characters in length
  2. Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  3. Different from their username
User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
  • {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous

  • Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
  • Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

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Your GA nomination of Star Trek (1971 video game)Edit

The article Star Trek (1971 video game) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Star Trek (1971 video game) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Sketch vs final lookEdit

Hello, how are you doing. I have been working in the visual novel character Shirou Emiya and found a sketch about his early look in a spinoff here. However, the final look ended up being quite different as you can see here or here when the spinoff was animated. The author talks a bit about why he changed the design but I don't know what image takes more priority or if it is possible to put both looks. Any suggestion? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 15:40, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tintor: I think the actual game model would take priority; it doesn't seem that different to me though? Just missing the skintight undershirt. --PresN 16:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for the response.Tintor2 (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Star Trek (1971 video game)Edit

The article Star Trek (1971 video game) you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Star Trek (1971 video game) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 15:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Former GA/FAsEdit

Hiya! Do you know whether there is some place that lists former GAs/FAs in a topic area? I vaguely recalled WP:VG/GA/FA compiling these but it appears not. czar 18:37, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@Czar: I took them out some time ago as they are obviously not good content. :^) For everything else, there's the page history which should be able to show you everything disqualified since whatever the date was I nixed everything. --Izno (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Found it—thanks! czar 22:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's accurate-ish up till then, I think it didn't include former GAs where the article no longer existed (merged/redirected). And yeah, Izno decided we didn't need a wall of shame, and I agreed as it didn't seem to be motivating anyone to regain GA/FA status for them. --PresN 03:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Which isn't to suggest we shouldn't keep such a wall around to inform what walls looks like, just that we shouldn't put the wall there. :^) --Izno (talk) 04:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hunt the WumpusEdit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hunt the Wumpus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CelestialWeevil -- CelestialWeevil (talk) 19:00, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hunt the WumpusEdit

The article Hunt the Wumpus you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Hunt the Wumpus for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CelestialWeevil -- CelestialWeevil (talk) 15:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hunt the WumpusEdit

The article Hunt the Wumpus you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Hunt the Wumpus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CelestialWeevil -- CelestialWeevil (talk) 04:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

TFL notification – February 2019Edit

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of games by Firaxis Games – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for February 22. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 02:23, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

New article assessment list botEdit

Not sure if you're tabulating these somewhere, but wanted to register a vote for making your "new WikiProject article" list generator/script (from the 1.0 assessment data, right?) into a bot. I think it could be really valuable for other WikiProjects, on par with the Article Alerts bot. It would also help to turn WikiProject talk pages into subject-area noticeboards (which, imo, is their inevitable future). czar 01:11, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

[1] feature requests are appreciated Came back to post this again. :) Such a bot would be extremely valuable for breathing life/regularity into other WikiProjects, a key step towards making them into more of topic-based noticeboards. czar 13:03, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
@Czar: Added to the feature list! There's still a few manual interventions I have to make each time that need to be fixed, plus I need to learn how to make wikibots, but it's a good goal! --PresN 18:40, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Full Sail UniversityEdit

Thanks for weighing in on the esports arena discussion. I'm hoping the article will be updated soon. I've also submitted a request to re-add mention of the campus' size here, if you're interested to share your thoughts. Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 18:56, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Do you recommend I submit your proposed wording as a compromise in a new edit request, or should I see if Justlettersandnumbers will reply to your comment? I'm not sure they will reply unprompted, but I'm still looking to update the article. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:56, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello again! I posted this edit request nearly 3 weeks ago and I'm struggling to get an editor to update the article even after posting multiple requests for help at related WikiProjects. Might you have a moment to take a look? Inkian Jason (talk) 16:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I've replied on the article's talk page. There are other press releases confirming the collaboration as well, but my goal was just to confirm current use. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the article. On the talk page, I noted the duplicate appearance of "partnered" in the content you added. I've also submitted another request here, if you're willing to review. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi again. I am struggling to get an editor to review my request at Talk:Full_Sail_University#Awards. Since you've helped before, I thought I'd reach out to see if you had a moment to take a look. If not, I understand, but thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:15, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I know some editors don't have notifications turned on, so I wanted to make sure you saw this update regarding the esports arena at Full Sail. Are you willing to review this request, or shall I try to find another editor to take a look? Thanks so much, Inkian Jason (talk) 15:05, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I've submitted a simple (and I believe final, at least for now) update request here if you have another moment. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversaryEdit

Precious
 
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

  Administrator changes

  EnterpriseyJJMC89
  BorgQueen
  Harro5Jenks24GraftR. Baley

  Interface administrator changes

 Enterprisey

  Guideline and policy news

  • A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
  • Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.

  Technical news

  • A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.

  Miscellaneous

  • Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
  • A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.

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TurochampEdit

I see you have turned to one of the earliest known computer programs to give it your usual solid treatment. Two things you should know from sources you have not made use of yet. First, in Alan M. Turing, a biography written by Turing's own mother, Donald Michie describes creating an algorithm called Machiavelli to challenge Turochamp. Second, the definitive Turing biography, Alan Turing: The Enigma has more detail on the relationship between Turochamp and Machiavelli. As can be pieced together from letters reproduced in the book, Turing and Champernowne did not fully develop Turochamp until after learning that Michie had created Machiavelli. In the letter reproduced on page 489 and dated 18 September 1948, Turing explicitly states he has not written down a definitive version of Turochamp yet and that he was aware of the Machiavelli program. He further states his plan to finish Turochamp and then implement both programs on a computer to have them duke it out. You will also note reference to earlier discussions with Jack Good about chess. These are described in another part of the book. Basically, Turing and Good first explored the theory behind a chess-playing machine in 1941, though they produced to code at that time.

So to summarize the info in the two books: Turing first discussed a chess program with Jack Good in 1941 and came up with the concept of using decision trees and minimaxing at that time, but did not actually create a program. Then, in late sumemr 1948, Turing and Champernowne hashed out a program in some detail called Turochamp. but did not finish it. Finally, Donald Michie and Shaun Wylie learned of Turochamp and were inspired to create their own program called Machiavelli, which in turn inspired Turing to finish Turochamp sometime after 18 September 1948 so that he could implement both programs on a computer to play against each other. Hope that helps. Indrian (talk) 21:47, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@Indrian: Thanks, that helps a lot! I knew of Machiavelli, because I'm currently just pulling information from the French wikipedia article and it mentions the rivalry, but I haven't gone looking for sources myself so I did not know that it was such an impetus for Turochamp. Seems like there's a lot of reworking of the history section that needs to happen! --PresN 01:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Analysis of relationshipsEdit

Hi, how are you doing? As a fellow user copyedited the article Shirou Emiya, he removed an analysis between two artists that involved his relationships with three heroines from the visual novel. You can check it in the talk page. However, another user expressed the possibility of readding the commentary about Shirou's relationships but not exactly sure were? Any idea about it? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 16:03, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

A separate section just for the writers analyzing the relationships feels like overkill; I'd leave it in the creation section, but edit it to be shorter. --PresN 03:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Outstanding user pageEdit

  The Userpage Barnstar
I was browsing the list of Barnstars searching for the best choice of award to give to another user, when I read the description for this and instantly thought of you. I think the design of your page is exceptionally elegant, with a beautiful and functional design. Neuroxic (talk) 04:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Sales data restoredEdit

I have restored the sales data on this page. I agree with you about restoring sales column. so per WP:BEBOLD, I've restored sale data. thank you for your hard work on sales data --Misconceptions2 (talk) 22:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_video_game_franchises

DissidentEdit

Why did you allow dissident93 to remove the sales data you added in the way he did. There was no consensus. He should have kept status quo then discuss. Now it may lead to him engaging in a revert war. --Misconceptions2 (talk) 23:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Commander Keen in Keen DreamsEdit

I'm really not seeing it, and text searches for "Prince" and "eat your" both produce no results in either the linked version or the archived version of the page. Is it in a hidden sidebar or something?--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Martin IIIa: It's on page 3 of the article (out of 4) - you have to click "next page" at the bottom. --PresN 17:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 March newsletterEdit

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  •   L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
  •   Adam Cuerden, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
  •   MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
  •   Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
  •   Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
  •   Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk).

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.

  Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
    • paid-en-wp wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
    • checkuser-en-wp wikipedia.org has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.

  Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Mighty Jill OffEdit

Hey, thanks for getting it to GA. I had the urge to do it myself while I was talking to my girlfriend about things, and let out an audible 'woah' when I saw it had already been done! - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 01:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@New Age Retro Hippie: Huh, almost exactly 5 years ago. Yeah, I remember, I never even played the game, I just saw that the article was essentially passing and just needed a poke while you were out. You're welcome! --PresN 02:52, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

FLCEdit

Hey. I was wondering if this FLC has enough input to be promoted (4 supports, all concerns addressed). I actually plan a lengthy wikibreak after this one is promoted, hence bothering, and also since you do source reviews. :)—NØ 22:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: There's the outstanding alt text comment on the FLC that needs to be addressed, but that's it there; as far as a source review, the sources that link to an ASIN need to be changed- ASIN is the internal Amazon product number, not a standard album identifier. If the record label has an id you can use that (for example, AllMusic claims that the catalog number for Handwritten is 5084871), otherwise it should be excluded. The rest looks fine. --PresN 23:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I finished replacing the ASINs with catalog numbers. The person who made the comments about the Alt texts changed it themselves, so that’s done too.—NØ 06:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

DeactivatorsEdit

Hey Pres. Would it be possible for you to review the FAC to Deactivators? I'm worried it might fail due to a lack of feedback. GamerPro64 01:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous

  • Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
  • As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.

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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Sakura WarsEdit

  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Sakura Wars. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:41, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Music of Sakura WarsEdit

Hello. I'm thinking about creating some pages regarding the music of Sakura Wars, given that we've done Final Fantasy music articles before. I've been working on the series and first game in my sandbox (they are located at User:Sjones23/Music of the Sakura Wars series and User:Sjones23/Music of Sakura Wars). We may need to expand on this with the reception and songs. Care to join forces? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:54, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

TFL notification – May 2019Edit

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that Arthur C. Clarke Award – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for May 6. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TurochampEdit

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Turochamp you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 21:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Mana seriesEdit

Shin'ichi Kameoka was co-producer in Heroes of Mana. Ishii is NOT ONLY main staff. Various staff including Ishii and Kameoka weren't involve since Heroes of Mana. At least important staff were credited to Special Thanks. Rise of Mana hadn't have previous any Mana staff, because they had already left in Square Enix. See Series credits Windywalk (talk) 16:45, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Windywalk: Yes, Kameoka was credited as a co-producer on Heroes. There are two issues: 1) The infobox lists a single name if possible per field, and only does multiple names if they are all equal; Ishii was credited as producer compared to Kameoka's co-producer, so only Ishii is listed in the infobox. 2) Besides the infobox, the text of the lead summarizes the article. Ishii, besides being the series creator, is mentioned extensively in the development section, so the lead mentioning that this was his final Mana game makes sense (though it should be in the body of the article too). Kameoka is not mentioned at all- he was the co-producer, but no interviews with him or sources about him are used in the article. Additionally, while Ishii created the series, Kameoka was nowhere near as important to the series- he wasn't on FFAdventures, and for Secret of Mana he was the character designer, not the lead artist (who was Hiroo Isono). He's certainly important, but not so important that we need to, out of the blue, mention that this guy who isn't mentioned in any other Mana article hasn't worked on any games in the series since Heroes. So I'm not saying that it's not true that Heroes was Kameoka's last Mana game, or that Rise of Mana didn't use any previous major developers, but I am saying that it's not a major component of Heroes of Mana that needs mentioning in the lead. --PresN 21:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Video recommendationEdit

An analysis of early video game journalism and terminology, thought you might find interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXVWtE80KmU Ben · Salvidrim!  08:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 May newsletterEdit

The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

  •   Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
  •   Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
  •   Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
  •   Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

Other notable performances were put in by   Barkeep49 with six GAs,   Ceranthor,   Lee Vilenski, and   Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and   MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.

So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free image File:Computer Space flyer.jpgEdit

 

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ArbCom 2019 special circularEdit

 
Administrators must secure their accounts

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This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:36, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)Edit

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


Administrators' newsletter – May 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.

  Arbitration

  • In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
  • Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.

  Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Sharing the draft proposed page revisionEdit

Hi PresN, I'm Kelt Reeves the president of Falcon Northwest. I've been trying to draw an editor's attention to a proposed rewrite I shared on Talk. I thought you might be interested since you created a Good Article rated page on Nimrod, which is a similar topic. Kelt at Falcon (talk) 20:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TurochampEdit

The article Turochamp you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Turochamp for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Hugo AwardsEdit

Thanks, I hadn't realised that. Now that I've seen them I think they could all benefit by a similar treatment - I may propose that on the main Hugo Talk page. - Snori (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

  Administrator changes

  AndonicConsumed CrustaceanEnigmamanEuryalusEWS23HereToHelpNv8200paPeripitusStringTheory11Vejvančický

  CheckUser changes

  Ivanvector

  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
  • An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
  • An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

  Technical news

  • The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
  • Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

  Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

TurochampEdit

Hello.

I'm happy to see you completed this page. I see it is clearly inspired by the french article i wrote. I even found severals sentences i wrote. It is also an evidence the page is based on the french article... The translation make no doubt for me, even the artcile has been re-wrote and remade.

Sad part is i can't find the licence respect and citation of the french article in talk page (at least). Did i missed it ? It seems the Wikipedia licence is not respected. When i use and translate english pages, i cite it : [2] you can check the pages listed on that template that have been tranlated, i.e. .

Regards. --Archimëa (talk) 12:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps you should look at this two really interresting pages i wrote and part of history of video games and IA : [3][4]
It's now a long time i did not write anything about that decade, but i hope i will be abble to write about the arthur samuel's checker program one day (the last i miss)...
I also wrote about the Nimatron game machine, if you want to take a look at [5]...
Regards. --Archimëa (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
@Archimëa: I mentioned that I was pulling from the fr article in the page history, but I've now added an attribution template to the talk page. --PresN 10:47, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
ahgrr, i didn't saw you mentionned it in the history page... That's really nice, and i thank you. We can see you remade it by youself, but there are still some sentences ripped from it... thanks...
Did you see [6][7]. they are candidates for an article maybe one day ? --Archimëa (talk) 10:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

TFL notificationEdit

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of 3D Realms games – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 8. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).

  Administrator changes

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1Floquenbeam's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
2Fram's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

  Guideline and policy news

  • In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.

  Technical news

  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.

  Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Topic bansEdit

So...you're an admin. How does this work? I understand it's early days yet, but should another admin be flagged to the growing consensus over at Project VG? Or should I start a new topic on the matter over at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard? I'm happy to propose a block/ban there myself if that's the way to go about things. Quite frankly I've been avoiding editing some articles he's involved himself with because I just don't need the stress of his complete disregard for every other editor, but I'm sure you understand. Have a nice day. Damien Linnane (talk) 09:45, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@Damien Linnane: Well, for me personally, I've recused myself from Niemti/Snake issues because I blocked him like 5 times (the last indefinitely) and then some other admins unblocked him a couple years later, and I got sick of be accused of hounding him. That said, the next steps would be to start a topic at AN, yeah. The best way to go about it would be to have a relatively short statement of a) exactly what the problem is, with links/diffs to as many recent-ish discussions/edits as you can find (so that everyone can easily see the problem) and b) exactly what the solution requested is (TBAN from gender-and-video-games issues). To make it be less of a "1 editor vs. 1 editor" thing, would help to get others in that thread to sign their names on your AN statement as well. May be good to note that as Niemti, in addition to his extensive block log, he has been TBAN'd twice: from the GA process and from anything related to Anita Sarkeesian. The latter is very relevant, as it is essentially a smaller version of the TBAN looked for here. --PresN 09:52, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I'll see what I can do. Out of interest can you link/show me the declaration you made when he was unblocked? I didn't bother looking into it when it happened, but I remember wondering how the hell he managed to get his block lifted in the first place when I saw him back here. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:11, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Let me know what you think of this draft. This is new territory for me, so any feedback is welcome. Should I add or omit anything? Damien Linnane (talk) 13:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
@Damien Linnane: My statement was here: [8], and I think that looks good, as long as you can get some other editors to sign their names to it. --PresN 14:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
@Damien Linnane: Well, that got a pretty... strong, immediate reaction. I decided to un-recuse myself and comment there too. The more I thought about it, the more the argument that he just needs help to learn civility after 13 years of editing across at least 5 accounts made me really mad. --PresN 19:19, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments PresN. I was rather overwhelmed with the response as well. I guess we will just have to wait and see how it plays out. His current responses don't surprise me at all. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:15, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
That's where I am right now. I was initially okay with letting him be away from gaming and gender-related topics, but his behavior isn't poor because of the topics, it's poor in general. All that is going to happen is that he might move into the comic books WikiProject to spout about how ComicsGate is actually a great thing, or go and try and explain that harassment in the Magic the Gathering community is not that big a deal. Making it a topic ban just feels a lot like a recreation of this. [9] We're just creating a garbage meteor that someone else will have to grapple with down the line when he inevitably abuses people in other parts of Wikipedia. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 01:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
I also have a friend who is stressed by having to interact with him, so it's upsetting that an abusive, toxic person, a member of a harassment campaign that targeted people like her and I (which he flatout denies ever really happened), is being given more consideration than his victims. Boys will be boys, I guess. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 01:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
@Abryn: Yeah, I agree. While en.wiki has a problem with harassment in general, I don't really understand why Niemti in particular keeps getting handled with kid gloves- it happens all the time for "big name" editors or people who have written tons of high-quality articles... but he's not particularly well-known or well-liked, and his content contributions go for breadth instead of depth. He's like the poster child for how en.wiki needs to step up and stop harassment on-platform, instead of allowing death driving away editors by a thousand paper cuts. --PresN 09:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 July newsletterEdit

The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  •   Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
  •   Adam Cuerden, with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
  •   SounderBruce, a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
  •   Usernameunique, with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics

Contestants managed 4 (5) featured articles, 4 featured lists, 18 featured pictures, 29 good articles, 50 DYK entries, 9 ITN entries, and 39 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and it is imperative to claim them in the correct round; one FA claim had to be rejected because it was incorrectly submitted (claimed in Round 3 when it qualified for Round 2), so be warned! When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TurochampEdit

The article Turochamp you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Turochamp for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Indrian -- Indrian (talk) 14:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2019Edit

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Chocobo Hot and Cold listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chocobo Hot and Cold. Since you had some involvement with the Chocobo Hot and Cold redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:56, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Minigames of Final Fantasy for deletionEdit

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Minigames of Final Fantasy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minigames of Final Fantasy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Gee BeeEdit

I personally think it's passable at this point but wanted a second opinion. Do you think Gee Bee is good enough for GA?Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 18:49, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I decided to pass the article. I'm sure any issues on the article are minor and easy to fix if there are any.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 19:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
@Blue Pumpkin Pie: I think it is passable- getting any information at all on 1970s video games is hard, and with the recent additions I think it's up to snuff. --PresN 20:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good. If it isn't obvious, I'm new to reviewing GAs.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 20:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

GalaxianEdit

Hey there. Do you think you could try diffing up sources for Galaxian, specifically reviews/media coverage from the time period? I'm heavily expanding the article in hopes of nominating it to GA someday, so any help would be appreciated. Considering the game's mass recognition and importance I assume it shouldn't be as hard as other games, but nonetheless could take a bit of searching to find. Namcokid47 (talk) 03:59, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

@Namcokid47: Alright, 79 is a bit late for me, but lets see what I can find. Sticking to Cash Box for right now:
  • Cashbox November 10, 1979 - page 34 (AMOA-8) has Galaxian pictured as being shown by Namco at the AMOA show ([10])
  • No mention again until February 23, 1980, where there's something on page 43 that at the January 1979 ATE show (Amusement Trades Exhibition), there had been around 20 clone versions of Galaxian displayed- note it actually says june, but ATE was held in January, which makes much more sense as they're talking about it as if it was recent and June was months before Galaxian was ever shown ([11])
  • The march 29, 1980 issue says "[Jack Sutton of Rowe International, an arcade machine vendor] is presently awaiting the first shipment of Midway’s "Galaxian”" on page 103 ([12])
  • Galaxian was announced for release by Midway in the April 5 issue ([13]), page 40, both the regular and cocktail variants. On page 42, it says "Top sellers in the video arena include Atari's "Asteroids", Midway's "Deluxe Space Invaders” and "Galaxian." Latter has met with exceptional response, Stan told us." Same page, a distributor says they now have it in stock to sell to locations. (So, April 5 is basically the release date, or just April if you want.)
  • April 15- big ad for the game on page 45 9[14])
  • April 26- A quote on page 39 calls Galaxian an "earthshaking hit" (in a section discussing how not everything they release is that big), and it's termed a "hit game" on page 43. ([15]). Page 42 calls it a "natural followup to Space Invaders"
  • The year-end issue on December 27 throws out on page 64 that Midway sued Universal USA for infringement over Galaxian ([16]) --PresN 18:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous

  • Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
  • The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.

    Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Progression rainbowEdit

 Template:Progression rainbow has been nominated for merging with Template:WikiProject progression rainbow. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. --Trialpears (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

TFL notification – September 2019Edit

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that Nebula Award for Best Short Story – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for September 2. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 23:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

If you have time some feedback pleaseEdit

I am thinking of nominating List of cyclists with a cycling-related death for FLC sometime this fall. I've never nominated a List for FL before so if you could take a quick look to see if there's anything obvious that jumps out as being WRONG it would be very helpful. Just for a reference, this is what the List looked like when I first happened upon it back in July 2010. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 21:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Shearonink: points from a quick skim:
  • "and since 1994 a number of professionals have been killed in accidents with motorized vehicles while training on public roads." - given that presumably this happened before 1994 as well, this reads strangely
  • The "Cyclists who died due to a race" / "Professionals who died during training and other cycling related deaths" section titles are overly verbose, and duplicate the table headers
  • The name field is sorting by first name, not last name- consider the {{sortname}} template
  • The 85% text size thing is a bit odd; especially since for me usually the thing that's stretching the rows is the image, not too much text in the notes field
  • You use "&" a lot in the notes, which should be written out
  • Notes field is inconsistent on using full sentences, and whether or not fragments get a period at the end
  • You're going to need to justify why the first section gets a table but the "not in a race" deaths don't
  • Some of your notes seem to be trying to imply a source; you'd be better off just putting a reference in them (there's a couple ways, but easiest is to switch to using the {{efn}} template, and then you can just stick a ref tag in the note
  • Some of your citations are wonky and I'd recommend looking through them all- e.g. "Møller, Pages 467-468", which should be "Møller, pp, 467–468" to start with but also needs the full book or whatever listed because you don't have a sources section for that to be referring to. Also e.g. "Der deutsche Radfahrer, 23. März 1937", which has the same issue plus a non-standard (and non-English) date format. --PresN 03:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, appreciate your comments. Have already corrected some of the issues, will work my way through the others as I can. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 03:33, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Question re: the sorting by last names...does that mean all the 120+ names in the table will have to be converted from their present plain state into "sortable by last name"? For instance
Will the plain name within its table cell of Pierre Froget have to be converted to {{sortname|Pierre|Froget}} (and so on...)?
Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 07:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Shearonink: Yes, it would- 120 is a lot, but it should be fairly quick if you just run down the list adding "{{sortname|" to the front, and then the pipe, and then the closing }}. --PresN 14:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Ah thanks - just wanted to make sure. I didn't used to be a coder of any stripe, so these types of things are not intuitive for me and I have to ask lots of questions to make sure I understand.
Wanted to mention the actual different sections and the titles of the sections have been discussed on the talk page - here, here, and here - these latest versions are the best we could come up with at the time. I'll try to think of some better ideas and propose them on the talkpage.
About the sort-name code...there are several names linked to their associated En.WP articles plus two names linked to German WP articles (Louis Mettling & Ernst Feja). If I run into issues getting the sort-coding to stick I will be coming back here and asking about how to do that.
Thanks again, Shearonink (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I figured out the coding for the names without articles (and with!) but I am going to need an example of what to do for names that are linked to other Wikipedias - I'd like to take care of the coding myself, that's the only way I'll learn so if you know the right way to do the sortname thing for Louis Mettling ([[:de:Louis Mettling|Louis Mettling]]) & Ernst Feja ([[:de:Ernst Feja|Ernst Feja]]) that would be a big help. Thx, Shearonink (talk) 17:34, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
The way sortname works in the backend is table cell wikitext that looks kind of like:
| data-sort-value="Last, First" | First Last
I personally prefer this way as it makes it clear that's what is going on underneath the hood, but it does add some duplication. In the case of foreign wikis, you might do something like the following, taking the above as inspiration, to work around not-great support in the template:
| data-sort-value="Last, First" | {{ill|First Last|lang_code}}.
{{ill}} for documentation of the template invoked there. --Izno (talk) 02:57, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, so, where you have | scope="row" style="text-align:center;"| [[:de:Louis Mettling|Louis Mettling]] || Track cyclist, change it to | scope="row" style="text-align:center;" data-sort-value="Mettling, Louis"| [[:de:Louis Mettling|Louis Mettling]] || Track cyclist (or | scope="row" style="text-align:center;" data-sort-value="Mettling, Louis"| {{ill|Louis Mettling|de}} || Track cyclist, per Izno's suggestion. --PresN 04:47, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Yay! Worked like a charm - thanks everybody. Shearonink (talk) 14:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Ok, now I have another sortname question...
the entry now reads | scope="row" style="text-align:center;"| {{nowrap|Camille Danguillaume}}||
How do I use the sortname on this entry and maintain the nowrap for the name in the visible table?
Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 14:56, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Shearonink: Easiest way: Help:Table#Nowrap: "To keep an entire column from wrapping, use style="white-space: nowrap;" in a non-header cell on the longest/widest cell to affect the entire column." Looks like it also works to just make the nowrap template be on the outside of the sortname template: {{nowrap|{{sortname|Camille|Danguillaume}}}} --PresN 15:12, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Finished all the 120+ sortnames. Thanks for all your help everyone - cheers! Shearonink (talk) 16:45, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

PresN - I think I've fixed many of the issues you pointed out.

  • "and since 1994 a number of professionals have been killed in accidents with motorized vehicles while training on public roads." - given that presumably this happened before 1994 as well, this reads strangely. Edited this section, adjusted the wording
  • The "Cyclists who died due to a race" / "Professionals who died during training and other cycling related deaths" section titles are overly verbose, and duplicate the table headers. Adjusted this wording
  • The name field is sorting by first name, not last name- consider the {{sortname}} template. Yeah. This is SO fixed.
  • The 85% text size thing is a bit odd; especially since for me usually the thing that's stretching the rows is the image, not too much text in the notes field. Bumped up to 95%
  • You use "&" a lot in the notes, which should be written out. I think I've fixed most of these.
  • Notes field is inconsistent on using full sentences, and whether or not fragments get a period at the end. -->> Still working on this.
  • You're going to need to justify why the first section gets a table but the "not in a race" deaths don't. -->> I've been thinking about this.
I thought I had answered this concern that the reviewers are having but apparently not. I'm being told that both sections must/should be the same. Maybe I'll just blow apart the Table and convert the entire List to bulleted lists in text form. Shearonink (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Some of your notes seem to be trying to imply a source; you'd be better off just putting a reference in them (there's a couple ways, but easiest is to switch to using the {{efn}} template, and then you can just stick a ref tag in the note. -->> Still working on this.
ALL of the Notes are now sourced. Shearonink (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Some of your citations are wonky and I'd recommend looking through them all- e.g. "Møller, Pages 467-468", which should be "Møller, pp, 467–468" to start with but also needs the full book or whatever listed because you don't have a sources section for that to be referring to. Also e.g. "Der deutsche Radfahrer, 23. März 1937", which has the same issue plus a non-standard (and non-English) date format. -- -->> Still working on this.
Now all fixed as much as I can. Shearonink (talk) 18:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Just waiting on some additional info from a collaborator with access to early 20th Century German-language references (hoping for some photos of some of the early cyclists, plus some specific referencing. If there's anything else that screams WRONG in the present version, please let me know. Thanks again, really appreciate all the help. Shearonink (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

If you could take another look at the List, I'd appreciate it. I've been working on improving it since I last posted here. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 22:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Shearonink: Sorry for the delay; I think it's basically ready to nominate. I'm sure reviewers will find issues, but that always happens. The only major thing I see is that the list does not seem to explain why it lists cycling-related deaths from <1928 and >1994, but not in between... is it just a lack of sources? --PresN 01:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh yes. They are indeed being very able to find issues lol. Shearonink (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
@Shearonink: Haha, yeah, but on a more positive note, you're getting a lot of feedback right off the bat, and since you're fixing issues quickly it's flowing smoothly. A lot of nominations sit there for a week or two, then get hit with a giant review, then the nominator takes a while to get to it so it just stalls out, as no one wants to do their own big review while another one is outstanding. --PresN 14:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the words of encouragement. So. I should be happy that folks showed up. Ok - will keep that in mind going forward...yeah. HAPPY it is. Shearonink (talk) 17:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't see at this point how to proceed with my FLC so am taking a break for a while. Thanks for all your help. Shearonink (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks so for your comments.
As to the lapse of noted deaths between 1928 & 1994...I honestly don't know because none of the people who have worked on the List have found any names for such deaths. Maybe there are as yet-unknown cyclists' deaths mentioned in newspapers and cycling publications and the information hasn't been dug up yet, or maybe no one could afford bicycles or it could be that there were fewer cars on the roads during the Great Depression?....I don't know. It's just what the sources are telling me at the moment. I might make a note about the 66-year death-drought though... Shearonink (talk) 02:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 September newsletterEdit

The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

FLCEdit

Hi! I am currently having a nomination for FL running and it seems it is getting some general support. I wonder, can I nominate a new one already? I know I should not nominate the new one unless the consensus for the previous one is already strong so I though I'd just ask for your opinion :) Thanks! --Tone 14:40, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

@Tone: Yes, I think you're good to nominated a second. --PresN 21:33, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019).

  Administrator changes

  BradvChetsfordIzno
  FloquenbeamLectonar
  DESiegelJake WartenbergRjanagTopbanana

  CheckUser changes

  CallaneccLFaraoneThere'sNoTime

  Oversight changes

  CallaneccFoxHJ MitchellLFaraoneThere'sNoTime

  Technical news

  • Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
  • The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous


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ShmuplationsEdit

yo it's a situational source now, confetti - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 19:40, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Abryn: congratulations! That'll make things easier! --PresN 19:53, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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