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Doubt on Egyptian left-wingers at the 1934 World CupEdit

Hi Nehme1499, I'd like to take advantage again of your kindness and expertise to solve a dilemma that I stumbled upon. Wikipedia reports in the squad page and in the related article Mohammed Hassan (footballer, born 1905) as being part of the Egyptian squad taking part at the 1934 World Cup. However, as the note number two of Mohammed Hassan's article hints at, a variety of sources cite Mohammed Hassan Helmy (which we list as having been part only of the 1936 Olympic squad) as playing the game against Hungary. Some of these sources are Soccerway, 11v11 and FIFA. So, the question is: who was in the squad? Mohammed Hassan Moussa born 5 February 1905 or Mohammed Hassan Helmy born 13 February 1912? Bear in mind that no source mentions both of them, it's either one or the other. Can it be that FIFA and the other outlets have made confusion because of the similarities of the two names? I am saying this because this website lists the full name as Mohammed Hassan Helmy Moussa. I hope to have been clear. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. --Tanonero (msg) 11:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tanonero, thanks for the kind words. Examining the Egyptian website we previously used as a source for the Egypt national football team in the 1934 FIFA World Cup, I have found the player "Mohammed Hassan" playing in attack as well as a "Helmy Moustafa" (most likely "Moustafa Helmi Youssef" in the wikipedia article) playing in midfield. I have found no "Mohammed Hassan Helmy" in the website, and the only player who has "Mohammad Hassan" in his name is "Mohammad Hassan" himself; as of what I can see in the website, Mohammed Hassan WAS part of the 1934 squad while Mohammed Hassan Helmy was NOT. I hope this cleared up your doubts regarding the Egyptian side in the 1934 World Cup.Nehme1499 (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@Nehme1499: That's what I thought (that is that Wikipedia got it right), thanks for confirming. Have a nice day and until the next wiki interaction. Tanonero (msg) 12:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, it was nice speaking to you too! Nehme1499 (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Recent changesEdit

Hi there. :-) It looks like a typo crept into your recent copy-and-paste changes: "Juvenus U23" instead of "Juventus U23". I fixed Idrissa Touré but others probably require fixing, too. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on: Hi Robby, thanks for letting me know about the typos! I just fixed them all, if there are any other problems please don't hesitate to tell me. Nehme1499 (talk) 19:39, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. Well done! :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 16:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Damascus Arabic page's discussionEdit

Hello Mr Nehme, Thank you a lot for contributing positively to DA page :) I noticed that you removed 'Syrian' and 'Levantine' as alternative names for 'Damascus Arabic'. I agree with removing 'Levantine' as it is not the name for the dialect; however, yes, I know that the 'Syrian [Arabic]' and 'Damascus Arabic' are not the same thing (as Syrian Arabic is a broader term that covers many dialects in Syria) but this is a very common name for this dialect in the Middle East and among western researchers and as such, I had added it with the addition that it is merely a loose usage. Mark Enlightenment (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Mark Enlightenment: regarding the previous questions you have posted on the talk page:
  • I have corrected the "double Damascus Arabic" problem.
  • The picture can't be uploaded, the only way for you to upload it is if you recreate it from scratch or find one that doens't have copyright restrictions (Google search --> tools --> usage rights --> labeled for reuse with modification).
  • I renamed it as اللهجة الدمشقية‎ (literally "Damascene dialect") because of the fact that اللهجة الشامية was already used for Levantine Arabic.
As for removing "Syrian", I would have no problem in adding it as you are right in saying that it is a bit of a "gray" area". I think we should take the discussion back to the talk page and alert @IamNotU:.
Nehme1499 (talk) 11:54, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks! I am afraid that I had to delete my previous comments on the talk page as it hadn't had my signature.
Mark Enlightenment (talk) 12:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Lebanon squad-2019 AFC Asian Cup squadsEdit

Oumari's contract expires 5 days before the Asian Cup, the season in J League has also ended. Therefore I think that his club is essentially Al-Nasr.--Anbans 585 (talk) 15:46, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes I just realized that he was only on loan to Sagan Tosu, I thought it was a typo by the AFC. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Nehme1499 (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

AFC Asian Cup squadsEdit

Do you have some kind of proper source which shows about how many goals he scored, for example the AFC document showed that Mat Leckie scored 8 goals, but I found 9 of his goals at youtube, which proves that the AFC document was wrong "here".--Anbans 585 (talk) 18:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, for the Lebanese players I use NFT.com. I add up both “fifa matches” and “non-fifa matches” together as it’s sometimes unclear which matches it deems to be unofficial. Nehme1499 (talk)
You can find the official FIFA labelled matches on the FIFA website. Also it would be very helpful if you can find some kind of video reference or a news reference (a good reference) which may state it more clearly. Also ping me while replying, that will help me in replying you more quickly.--Anbans 585 (talk) 20:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Also I will give you an example of how some matches aren't considered, Mohammed Al-Breik is shown to score 1 goal against Jamaica in a friendly last year, which makes his no. of goals scored equals to 1 but the match was widely considered a training match and not an official match, thus "here" the AFC document is correct.--Anbans 585 (talk) 20:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: Hi, the problem isn't exactly knowing which matches are unofficial but knowing in which of the unofficial matches a player has or hasn't played. For example Maatouk is widely regarded as having scored 19 goals for the national team by different media (the importance of the 19 goals is that he is 1 off from the record of the Lebanese national team), but NFT.com considers 1 of his goals as unofficial. The problem is I don't know which of these matches is "unofficial" for NFT (the AFC document considers Maatouk as having 19 goals btw). As for my example of a player having a goal less on the AFC document than on NFT, both have the same appearances; this means that for the AFC, in a certain match, this player HASN'T scored when in fact he has (the AFC says that he has scored 3 in 20 when in fact he has scored 4 in 20). I wouldn't use the document for the statistics, only for the shirt numbers. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Can you list out all the discrepancies, you think there are in the AFC document?Anbans 585 (talk) 00:13, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: As for the Lebanese team, these are the discrepancies I have found:
  • Nour Mansour's DoB (listed as born in '89 but actually born in '91, month and days are also different)
  • Maatouk's DoB (month and day are inverted)
  • Rabih Ataya (the document says that he has scored 3 goals in 20 apps while in actuality he has scored 4 goals in 20 apps)
  • Robert Alexander Melki and George Felix Melki's positions are swapped
I'm sure there are other inconsistencies, but these are the ones I have noticed (as well as other minor differences in appearences and goals). Nehme1499 (talk) 00:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

─────────────────────────Okay first up can you give me a source which makes you so sure about the birthdates of Mansour and Maatouk, please don’t give NFT as a reference, there is also a chance that they may be wrong. A social media happy bday message would probably be enough.Anbans 585 (talk) 07:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

@Anbans 585: I have found other 2 incorrect DoBs: Mohamed Zein Tahan, who's birthday is reported to be the 20 of April on the document and 2 of April on other websites (as well as his Instagram post posted on the next day) and Walid Ismail (AFC says 10 November, other websites say 11).
I would say that the AFC is right on this one.
Also, for Nour Mansour, Eurosport and NFT say that he's born in '91, while Soccerway and Footballdatabase say '89 so I'm not sure on this one.
I will try to directly contact the players or reliable Lebanese sources on these inconsistencies.
P.S. I relised that I made a mistake on Maatouk as I probably got the information from an American website (swapping day and month): this isn't NFT's fault. Nehme1499 (talk) 09:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
The birthdates written in the document are the birthdates submitted by the player themselves during the registration process. See the AFC registration process for reference. That’s why if we are not sure about a particular info we should use the AFC document as the stats mentioned in it are submitted by the respective national football association. Also you should use globalsportsarchive.com as it contains database of birthdates of many players and is computer maintained, i.e. there is a very less chance of human error there. NFT soccerway etc are human maintained that is why there their may be a chance of human error.Anbans 585 (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: Hi, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes I have noticed that Nour Mansour's DoB was incorrect after consulting with a Lebanese football expert. I have therefore changed all the DoBs (and heights) of the Lebanese players according to the AFC document. I am still unsure about caps and goals: Rabih Ataya's goals count is of 3 for the AFC and 4 everywhere else (I have checked the goals and they are in official matches): also, the caps are the same (20) so it's not a matter of what the AFC counts as an official match or not. The only explanation I can give is if a goal was an "own goal" for the AFC and a goal for Ataya for other sources, but I don't remember of such a goal. Thanks again, Nehme1499 (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Mostafa MatarEdit

Hi! I worte Draft:Mostafa Matar, could you check it and move it to main space wiki. So thank you ! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk · contribs)

@Justice,ScienceandFree: Hi! Good job in creating the draft, I added some more information. There is one problem: the draft won't be accepted as he won't be deemed "notable" for Wikipedia (he either has to play for a professional league, which the Lebanese Football League isn't, or play even one minute for the national team, which he is yet to do). When he does at least one of those two things then the draft will be accepted. If you need anything else don't hesitate to ask! Nehme1499 (talk) 04:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, Nehme! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk · contribs)
@Justice,ScienceandFree: Hey, I just wanted to let you know that Mostafa Matar is now in the main space as he has debuted on 8 August 2019! Nehme1499 (talk) 01:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lebanon national football teamEdit

The article Lebanon national football team you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Lebanon national football team for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 17:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting this article to GA status Nehme! Sorry I couldn't help much. Italy national team next! I've already begun a couple weeks ago adding to the kit section and fixing the lead - and by removing POV many months ago. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
@Vaselineeeeeeee: Hi, thanks so much! Of course I will contribute to the Italy national team, getting both my national teams to GA world be incredible! Whenever you need help tell me, I will try to improve the article when I can. Nehme1499 (talk) 20:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Fiji national team GAEdit

Well yeah that is the goal sort of, but this is mainly done from looking at the Spanish version of the same page and putting my own words into it. The problem is the fact that unlike the Lebanon page, Fiji doesn't much in terms of trying to find useful information. Not Homura (talk) 06:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

For me, I feel like I wouldn't do my end of the deal as I am a person who doesn't really review articles and when I do, I leave that review for a good week or two before actually doing it. Not Homura (talk) 05:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I presume you understand ItalianEdit

I assume from your bio you speak Italian if you could provide any extra information on Women's football in Italy I would be most grateful. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest hi, yes I do speak Italian. I have added some information to the page, mainly taken from Campionato italiano di calcio femminile. I have tried to translate it as best as I could, though I'm sure it requires some cleaning up. Let me know if you need any more help! Nehme1499 (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Re: NehmeEdit

It's not usually very convenient for me to view on-line videos. I don't have any particular knowledge of dialectal colloquial Arabic (some knowledge of standard written Arabic and a lot of knowledge of linguistic concepts). AnonMoos (talk) 03:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Italy women'sEdit

Hi Nehme, hope you've been doing well. I was going to try and translate the history section at the Italian page for Italy women's national football team into English as we do not even have a history section here. But perhaps you may be better suited to do it if you have time? Let me know. After I did the head to head records, I was planning to make a table of the top 10 appearances and scorers, but the FIGC site is a mess compared to what I see for the players on the Italian wiki for various reasons they cite. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Vaselineeeeeeee! I was intending on translating the history section from the Italian page to the English one in the coming days, but in the meantime I put the template notice at the top with the hope someone else would have picked it up. I'll take care of both the history section and the top 10 apps/scorers in the near future. Nehme1499 (talk) 20:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

FIFA international result pagesEdit

Hello, I recall you asking once at WT:FOOTY about FIFA's list of international matches. I too was disappointed to see it gone, though I just have had a realisation. FIFA have a 'static' version of their website prior to more recent redesigns (static.fifa.com). So if you use that version of the website, the international results are still there, for example here. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: This is really helpful, thanks! I have been using a waybackmachine-stored version of the website, though often it displays weirdly and not in the intended layout. Too bad FIFA opted to remove the fixture list, so from 2019 onward we wont have the official matches. But still, for past matches it's very useful! Nehme1499 (talk) 01:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

List of national association football teams by nicknameEdit

Hi I see you have been dividing this page by continent, I have been adding descriptions of Nicknames and teams. I would be interested in doing the next one which is CAF africa if you don't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronniegregorym (talkcontribs) 10:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Ronniegregorym:   Done. By the way thanks for all your help! Nehme1499 (talk) 13:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
thanks and its no problem man. am just trying to help out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronniegregorym (talkcontribs) 14:49, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: 2019 Lebanese Super CupEdit

I can take a look at that tomorrow night or Tuesday morning, if you don't mind waiting. – PeeJay 22:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry mate, I just haven't had time. Let me have a go now. – PeeJay 14:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Danny El-Hage nationalityEdit

Born in Poland to a Polish mother and Lebanese father. The description Polish-Lebanese is most correct. Amsport12345 (talk) 15:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

@Amsport12345: Hi, this issue has already been discussed at WP:FOOTY in this discussion. The preferred form for players with dual nationality is to omit it from the first sentence, and then explain it further down. In Danny's case it would be best to just write "...is a professional football who plays as a goalkeeper for..." and then explain in another sentence that he has both nationalities has his father is Lebanese and his mother is Polish. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. The cases mentioned in the above discussion are different to this case. In the case of Danny El-Hage, he is as equally Polish as he is Lebanese without any controversies over origin or citizenship. Thus the description Polish-Lebanese is totally correct, making the lead brief and concise. The explanation about his parents should be placed further down in article if necessary. The fact that he represented Lebanon in youth categories is also mentioned further down in the article it can be omitted from the lead. The player is also eligible to represent Poland at international level. Thank you. Amsport12345 (talk) 16:40, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
@Amsport12345: There are other players who were born with both nationalities, see Bassel Jradi and Soony Saad for example. Also see Diego Costa and Wilfried Zaha, who represented both national teams.The lede serves as a summary of the article below, information shouldn't be omitted from it just because it is present below. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. I noticed that the Article was moved into draft space. Why would that be ? Amsport12345 (talk) 13:51, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
@Amsport12345: Hi, I realized that the player hasn’t played in a professional league, nor has he played for a senior National team yet. Therefore he isn’t notable per Wikipedia notability guidelines (WP:NFOOTY). Nehme1499 (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. The player is currently playing in a professional league, that is the Armenian Premier League. The guidelines you mentioned are not a formal Wikipedia Policy as well. Article should be moved back to main space. Thank you. Amsport12345 (talk) 14:12, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Amsport12345: If you can provide a reliable source stating that the Armenian league is professional, you can open a discussion at WP:FOOTY and see if a consensus is reached. If people deem it to be pro then the guidelines can be changed and Danny will be moved back to the main space (once he debuts for the team). Nehme1499 (talk) 14:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:DRAFTS you are expected to reverse unilateral moves from the main- to the draft-space if someone objects, so I have moved the page back. In the same vein, draftifying should not really be used as an alternative to deletion where the are no concerns with the content of a page. If you have notability concerns, please follow the normal deletion procedures at WP:AfD. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello Sir Sputnik, thank you for reversing the unilateral draftifying of the Article. The article has now been listed for deletion by Nehme1499. I would like to point out that this action was based on bias. As we can see Nehme1499 articles cover Lebanese players in 90%. He tried making changes to the article to make the Player Danny El-Hage look as if he is solely lebanese ignoring his Polish origins. When that failed he proceeded to draftifying the article and when that was reversed also he proceeded to listing the article for deletion. No for bias. Regards Amsport12345 (talk) 04:30, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Re: LebanonFG templateEdit

Hello, and thanks for asking. I'm afraid that these days I don't understand much of the code either. In recent times such templates have been enhanced to work with Wikidata and to include a lot more error-checking than 10 years ago or whenever {{Soccerway}} and the like were first created. You'd do better asking for help from someone who works with templates, such as Frietjes, or to post on WT:FOOTY where someone with technical competence might see it.

Don't know if you intend your template to be just for the External links section or to be usable as a citation as well. If the latter, you might want to base it on something like {{NFT player}}, which outputs a cite-web formatted citation if the accessdate parameter is supplied, where the Soccerway one has just been fudged to add an accessdate on the end of external-link type formatting.

Sorry I can't be of more help. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:16, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

NdjoliEdit

Hi Nehme,

Just wondering why you are sure that Eurosport's DOB for the player is correct but the one shown on Soccerbase, Soccerway, the official Premier League site, the official site of his current club, etc, is wrong? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: To be fair I'm not. I just AGF for User:Edited2019 and added a reliable source to back up his claims. I then realized that even the Premier League and his club have him as born in '98, not '97, so I have reverted my edit. Nehme1499 (talk) 10:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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