Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of colleges and universities in Delaware/archive4

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Pres N 20:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of colleges and universities in Delaware edit

Nominator(s): West Virginian (talk) 04:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is my fourth nomination of this list, which is well-sourced and in keeping with the format and style of numerous other featured lists of colleges and universities in U.S. states and districts, including Alabama, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, and Wisconsin. I have updated the list's facts with the most recent available data from the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education and the United States Department of Education Institute of Education Sciences College Navigator. This list is shorter compared to the states mentioned here due to Delaware's small size, but nevertheless, it is the most comprehensive list of post-secondary institutions of the state available. I welcome the comments, suggestions, and other guidance from editors in order to make this worthy of passage to Featured List status! -- West Virginian (talk) 04:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FrB.TG

~~"enrollment, as it had 22,680 students as of the fall of 2014" – I think you can simply refer to it as "as of fall 2014".~~

Per WP:SEASONS "fall of 2014" should be avoided. Late 2014, or a specific month should be used. – SchroCat (talk) 19:39, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FrB.TG, I've changed this to "as of fall 2014," per your suggestion. SchroCat, American educational institutions use seasons in their terminology to distinguish academic terms from one another. The U.S. Department of Education source used the term "fall" for its semester enrollment data, so I've incorporated that wording here. Seasons are also used in the many other featured lists of colleges and universities to identify semester enrollments. -- West Virginian (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Given the number of times I've had my wrist slapped for using British wording in a British article for "local" terms, I strongly suggest you change this. "Fall" is not a universal term. It is a North American term for autumn, and isn't automatically understood by the rest of the English-speaking world. I dread to think what would happen if I went to FAC or FLC with the description of the Michaelmas term I went through at school and university. – SchroCat (talk) 20:13, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat, the "spring/fall" semester terminology is used in ten out of eleven of the featured lists of American colleges and universities that have been promoted from this page. The featured articles for Dartmouth College, Duke University, Florida Atlantic University, Georgetown University, Michigan State University, Ohio Wesleyan University, Shimer College, Texas A&M University, Texas Tech University, United States Military Academy, University of California, Riverside, and University of Michigan all use fall/spring terminology for semesters. For consistency's sake, I would like to keep the terminology the same in this list until there is a wider consensus on English Wikipedia regarding the usage of seasons for semester descriptors in articles illustrating American colleges and universities. -- West Virginian (talk) 20:39, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a bloody poor defence. Next time an American reader comments to me that they don't understand that someone was sent down during the Michaelmas term I shall point them to the culturally inflexible examples above. – SchroCat (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat, because I like you, I've changed fall to "late." Please take a look at the article and provide me with additional suggestions when you get a chance. -- West Virginian (talk) 23:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks WV, and sorry if I came across as grumpy! Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 07:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat, you raised a valid point and I too apologize for belaboring your point. -- West Virginian (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Delaware previously had two private post-secondary institutions for men and women respectively: St. Mary's College and Wesleyan Female College" – I think respectively should go at the end of the sentence.

FrB.TG, thank you for the suggestion! I've incorporated this into the text. -- West Virginian (talk) 19:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Usually, a key table is listed above the table which it is referring to. I think you should shift the key table above the List of colleges and universities in Delaware table.~~

FrB.TG, thank you for this suggestion as well! I've moved the key table up in the list per your recommendation. -- West Virginian (talk) 20:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~In the Defunct institutions section's table, "Notes" does not need to be sortable.~~

FrB.TG, I've made this column unsortable per your request. Thanks! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, the list looks good overall. ~~I expect the nominator to rectify these minor concerns or give an explanation, and prove me wrong.~~ -- Frankie _talk 19:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FrB.TG, thank you for taking the time to engage in this review! I really appreciate your guidance and recommendations. Please let me know if there are any outstanding issues for me to address. -- West Virginian (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I don't know why it went through four archives. Hope this is going to be the last. Great job anyway. -- Frankie _talk 09:03, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FrB.TG, thank you tremendously for your thorough review and for your support! The first time, I had to withdraw the nomination because I already had two on here and I was new to the process. The subsequent two just didn't receive enough consensus; here's hoping the fourth nomination is the charm! -- West Virginian (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – a good list, and I'm a bit surprised it's needed four reviews to get through, but hopefully this will be its breakthrough attempt. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 07:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat, thank you for your review and your support and most especially your patience with me throughout this process! As I stated above, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the fourth nomination is the last one! -- West Virginian (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support — No problems found. Nice one.Krish | Talk 16:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Krish!, thank you for your review and for your support! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Images are freely licensed at Commons. Tables are formatted according to MOS:DTT. Well sourced with good lead. — Maile (talk) 20:42, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maile66, thank you tremendously for taking the time to review this list and support it! -- West Virginian (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing this nomination as Promoted, congratulations! Remember that reviewing other nominations means that the FLC queue will move faster for your future nominations, and consider nominating this list at Wikipedia:Today's featured list/submissions. --Pres N 20:37, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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