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The list was promoted by SchroCat 20:26, 28 January 2015 [1].

List of accolades received by Star Trek Into Darkness edit

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Nominator(s): Miyagawa (talk) 19:21, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm nominating this as a follow up to the nomination of List of accolades received by Star Trek (film) for FL, which as I type is second from bottom of the list with no outstanding work to be conducted. I've sought to incorporate the feedback received from that earlier nomination into this version, so hopefully colleagues should find it easier going!! Needless to say, Into Darkness was not as successful with the nominations as the earlier film, but I believe that I have everything covered. Miyagawa (talk) 19:21, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Quick comments
  • "J. J. Abrams " has a space between his J's.
  • "behind 2009's Star Trek" you've already mentioned it was the sequel to 2009's movie.
  • "garnered 9 wins out of 45 nominations" context please, like what wins, and what nominations are you talking about?
  • I've added some context, but currently the majority of the information is towards the end of that paragraph. Miyagawa (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it "accolades" or "awards and nominations"? Infobox, lead, etc...
  • Hmm. I don't think anyone would be too pleased if I went and edited the infobox template, so I've changed the accolades subsection to "Awards and nominations" to match it. However the article titles for this sort of thing appears to use accolades. Miyagawa (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "left to right" in caption is usually in italics.
  • Any reason why Chambliss gets a red link while other recipients are simply unlinked?
  • I can't remember why I did that. I've removed the link. Miyagawa (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "[34][10][11]" numerical order.
  • "OFTA Film Awards" about to be deleted so will need to be removed, and overall totals updated accordingly.
  • Removed and adjusted accordingly. Miyagawa (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 22:07, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias
Comments from Harrias talk
  • Is that September 17, 2009 date really right for the British Academy Film Awards?
    • It was completely wrong - I've corrected it to the right date. Miyagawa (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally, I would have "Bronze" sorting between "Silver" and "Nominated" in the Outcome column, especially as you count them as wins in the infobox.
    • I had to recode it outside of the usual template, but it sorts now. Miyagawa (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "..from seeking his revenge.." They can't really stop him seeking his revenge, merely stop him getting it.
  • The third sentence of the third paragraph ("In addition...") could do with splitting into two, around the point it starts talking specifically about Cumberbatch. It also repeats "in addition", so perhaps find a way of avoiding that repetition. Harrias talk 17:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Split into two sentences, with the second "in addition" ditched. Thanks for reviewing. Miyagawa (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  • Awards ceremonies (with blue links) should be wikilinked
    • I went through the entire list and found three that were missing. (Now added) Miyagawa (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • {{Abbr|Ref(s)|References}} → {{Abbr|Ref(s)|Reference(s)}}
  • The date for the BAF Awards is not correct.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 19:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The list says that "runner-up mentions are considered wins" and as far as I can see there are two runner-up, which are listed as "Bronze" and "Silver" and I don't think readers will easily understand that they are runner-up, so better explain them.
  • I've edited that note to specifically mention the Bronze and Silver awards (I've given them as examples). Miyagawa (talk) 17:55, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref. 37 is dead.
  • Fix the redirects of ref. no# 31, 32 and 40.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 19:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miyagawa I think I can give my support once I am clarified with my comments.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 08:40, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks again for reviewing - fortunately those links all got fixed when I included the archive sites per A Texas Historian's comments below. Miyagawa (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2015 (UTC)}}[reply]

Comments: Although I am not a good judge of this, the lead seems to be well-written. I'll go ahead and look at the rest of it.

  • I assume that the "recipients and nominees" column is sorted by last name? If so, then I see a couple of problems:
  • Benedict Cumberbatch's Britannia award is sorting between "AV Squad" and Maryann Brandon.
  • Shouldn't Jay Cooper et al. come before Chris Pine?
  • If it is going by last name, shouldn't Zoe Saldana come before Stefan Sonnenfeld and Star Trek Into Darkness?
  • Yep, there was a bunch of unsorted surnames - I've fixed them all now (including the three above). Miyagawa (talk) 22:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just as a suggestion: considering the problems already with dead links, I would suggest you archive the sources so that problems don't arise in the future.
  • Good suggestion - there was already one dead link in there. I've archived ever link now. Miyagawa (talk) 22:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am really close to supporting this. Once the reference problems and sortability issues above are dealt with, I think this will be ready. - A Texas Historian (Talk to me) 20:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support — A good one. Also, if possible, please have a look at this--FrankBoy (Buzz) 18:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Crisco comments

  • based on a production budget of $190 million, - since this is the budget, and
  • You tend to make sentences with a lot of clauses, which is somewhat confusing, and which I think would work better with separating the more compound sentences such as the second sentence of the lead, the one with the writing and producing and directing.
  • I've gone through and trimmed those. Miyagawa (talk) 23:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • recommend combining intake with intake and standing with standing (most successful worldwide, etc), rather than NA and worldwide
  • This was out of 44 nominations, with the visual effects work highlighted by the number of awards ceremonies that they were represented at. - who is "they"? The awards, or the film, or...? Are awards represented at ceremonies?
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