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Preity Zinta filmography edit

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Nominator(s): FrankBoy (Buzz) 15:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is, a filmography about an Indian actress, Preity Zinta. With unusual roles in several blockbuster hits, Zinta has proved herself one of the finest actresses, but sadly she is not seen these days in the male-dominated industry (Bollywood). The filmography is well sourced and researched. All types of helpful comments are welcomed.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 15:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from AB01 I'M A POTATO 11:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
*The picture would look better bigger. "upright=1" should be good
  • "She followed this with a role of a teenage" --> Should be "with the role"
  • CBI officer should be linked to Central Bureau of Investigation
  • Instead of "Kundan Shah-directed drama Kya Kehna", how about replace "drama" with "sleeper hit"? I think it's notable that it went on to do so well despite a poor opening. You can use ref #4 for this.
  • I don't know if Koimoi is reliable.
  • Hooker is informal. Try prostitute
  • "Dil Chahta Hai is cited in the media as a defining"
  • For better flow, I would reword to "featured in the National Award-winning dramedy Dil Chahta Hai, which has been cited in the media as a defining film..." and then talk about Chori Chori.
  • "and the 2006 ensemble drama Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna—top-grossing productions outside India" --> how about "...Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna, both of which performed phenomenally well outside India"
  • "unhappy wife" --> what about "unhappily married career woman"?
  • "She founded her production house PZNZ Media in the same year, under which she produced and starred in the..."
  • ref #2 and #32 are the same
  • Instead of ref #33, use ref #26 (more reliable)
  • I've never seen youtube movies as a source in FLs b4. You could use this source instead of refs #34 and #35. I've seen Amazon also being used on FLs, so this and this would be ok too. I'd recommend using all 3 sources
  • Idk if ref #59 is usable. Try this source
Ok, fair enough. One more comment: I just checked other FL's...you need to have an inline citation in the lead when you say she won the Filmfare for Best Debut/Actress. Use ref #28 for both AB01 I'M A POTATO 11:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks, AB01.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 11:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I think it looks good now! Support AB01 I'M A POTATO 11:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Krimuk90
  • "National Award-winning dramedy Dil Chahta Hai". "National Award winning" is WP:UNDUE
  • "The film is believed to be the most expensive Bollywood film of its time". "Believed to be" is not encyclopedic. It either is one of the most expensive films or not. I would suggest saying "it was the most expensive Bollywood film to that point".
  • Instead of saying she achieved "commercial" success, just say she achieved success.
  • "performed phenomenally well outside India". Phenomenally is undue again. Just performed well should suffice.
  • I get a little offended by a phrase like "working woman". No one says "he played a working man" in a film. Please mention her profession.
  • Bhaiyaji Superhit did not release in 2014. Since the status of it is unknown, say TBA in the year column.
  • In her television appearance, the channel in which the show originally aired is enough. So for "Up Close & Personal with PZ" just mention UTV Stars. Also, having a "role" column in this section will be good. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 05:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Good job! I have made some additional copy-edits for a better flow, but this is a job very well done.-- KRIMUK90 ✉ 10:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 12:19, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to do a ref check tomorrow. Standard rules, ensure that the refs support the table: appearance in film, awards, role, director etc. Also check the lead for the same. Critical acclaim should be supported by refs which offer a summary of critics views on a film not just one or two as that could be a POV issue.

Cowlibob (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lead refs

  • Ref 1 doesn't confirm that Dil Se was her debut film. Also doesn't support the "romantic interest bit" (I would probably remove this being conscious of gender bias, we would never put in an article on a male actor he only played a romantic interest for the actress.)
  • Added a ref. and reworded the latter.
  • I would probably separate out the roles ref into different refs as the info is found in different parts of the gallery.
  • That sounds good but this one is not in bad shape either and several filmographies use the same format.
  • Refs don't support the critical acclaim for Kya Kehna, maybe you could reword this to say her performance got her first nomination at Filmfare (with ref of course)
  • I have removed the sentence and I do not think I should add about her nomination as we do not talk about nominations in this page, only awards.
  • Not sure I'd use the term "financially successful" especially as the box office india source says Har Dil only did average business.
  • Done.
  • We can do better than ref 10 for DCH being a defining film.
  • Done.
  • Odd phrasing "achieved success"
  • Reworded.
  • I don't think I'd mention that Lakshya received positive reviews but was a poor performer at box office (seems more like something for the film article).
  • Reworded. A reliable source added which supports the claim.
  • Daily Mail is not a RS.
  • Daily Mail is one of the biggest-selling daily newspaper of UK. Per this source.
Selling a lot does not equal reliability. The Daily Mail has a reputation of poor journalistic practices. It's in fact used as an example of a mainstream media source which is unreliable. [[2]] Cowlibob (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed that source and it anyway makes no difference as the sentence is already verified by RS.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 19:41, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Television section looks good.

Cowlibob (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Table check

  • Ref 31 only supports name as "Preity" not "Preeti Singh"
  • Since no ref. cites the full name of her role in the film, I have edited her role as "Preity".
  • AGF on 32 supporting her role and her starring in the Telugu films. Shouldn't really use Amazon as a ref. as it's last resort if nothing else is available.
  • Removed.
  • Ref 36 doesn't support name of role or that it was a guest appearance.
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 37 doesn't support full name but this book one does: [[3]]
  • Thanks for the source.
  • Ref 13 doesn't support "Sonia Kapoor" just the Sonia bit, and also doesn't support that Honey Irani directed it.
  • Added.
  • Ref 51 doesn't support full name of "Romila Dutta"
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 53 doesn't support full name of "Zaara Haayat Khan"
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 60 doesn't support full name of "Rhea Saran"
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 62 doesn't support full name of "Piya Goyal"
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 63 doesn't support name of "Alvira Khan"
  • Replaced.
  • Ref 71 doesn't support name of character
  • Replaced.
  • Need better source for Har Pal being delayed. If someone looked at just the BH source they'd assume it released in 2010.
  • @Cowlibob: I have added a source that says that the film is delayed but have kept the BH source which verifies her name.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 13:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cowlibob (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FrB.TG: Two minor things.

  • You could mention that she played the villain in Armaan as she very rarely does those roles.
  • I've added updated source for Har Pal. According to it, the project has been shelved with no plans for release so unsure if we keep it in her filmography.
  • @Cowlibob: Thank you for thorough review. I have added the villain part and you are right actually I wanted to remove it too, but it had to be complete. Since you've suggested, I have removed the film from the table. --FrankBoy (Buzz) 12:47, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cowlibob (talk) 12:19, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • @FrB.TG: Finally, this is just personal preference but I think this list would look better with a picture of her smiling which she is famous for. Options: [[4]], and [[5]], and any others you could find.
  • Thank you :) You are right. She is really famous for her dimples in fact she is sometimes referred as "dimple queen". Today is her birthday and I have added the dimpled picture. --FrankBoy (Buzz) 15:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good job! Cowlibob (talk) 14:06, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Skr15081997
  • Done.
  • Acessdates are not needed in book citations, also it would be good if locations are added to them.
  • Removed; the locations are not written anywhere and that they are unknown.
  • Linked.
  • It would be better if the Koimoi source is replaced.
  • I think that Koimoi source is reliable, but I have removed that anyway and I have not replaced that as the source did not support anything and the BO India source is enough.

--Skr15081997 (talk) 16:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments :) --FrankBoy (Buzz) 18:57, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Skr15081997: The status of BS is still unknown and as for HE, it's already released so I think it's okay to be before Bhaiyyaji. --FrankBoy (Buzz) 13:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The order should be by release date. I guess you could use this source for filming confirmation as of 2014. [[6]]. Or maybe these two: [[7]], [[8]]. Cowlibob (talk) 15:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Cowlibob! I have updated the ref. --FrankBoy (Buzz) 15:54, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support — Good job on the list. Looks nice! — Ssven2 speak 2 me 15:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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