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Ajay Devgn filmography edit

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Nominator(s): Skr15081997 (talk) 12:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Devgn has been acting for more than two decades in the Bolywood industry and has played a variety of roles; ranging from his early action-packed roles, his comical roles (especially in Rohit Shetty's films) and an array of dramatic ones. In the process he has garnered two National Film Award for Best Actor. This list was previously nominated by D'SuperHero in December 2015. Before that I had sourced all of his credits in the tables. This year I resumed my work on the list and now I'm confident that the filmography meets FL criteria. Looking forward for constructive comments. Skr15081997 (talk) 12:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kailash
  • The first line can mention which films (on the basis of language) he acts in.
Added
  • Genres need not be linked, unless they are uncommon terms (like jidaigeki or masala).
Delinked except a few.
  • Further, he essayed the role of revolutionary Bhagat Singh in Santoshi's biopic film The Legend of Bhagat Singh, which won him his second National Film Award - "essayed" sounds like Indian media jargon (similar to "on floors") which may be replaced with something like "portrayed" or "played". You can just say "biopic", not biopic film.
Done
Delinked and replaced.
  • In 2007, Devgn had two releases; Cash, directed by Anubhav Sinha, and Ram Gopal Varma ki Aag, based on the 1975 cult classic Sholay. Despite featuring ensemble casts both of these films performed poorly at the box office and the latter one was panned by critics. - Can the "ensemble cast" sentence be merged with the previous one? You could also mention that Aag (write as Ram Gopal Varma's Aag) is considered one of the worst films ever made.
Done
Changed
  • The same year, he ventured into direction with the romantic drama film U Me Aur Hum. - I already mentioned above to delink common genres, and you could also mention that he produced this film.
Done
  • He re-teamed with Shetty for the role of an upright police officer in the action drama Singham (2011) - I would say, He again collaborated with Shetty.
Changed per the suggestion.
  • Add a "director" column to the filmography table.
@Kailash29792: Bollywood Hungama, Sify, IMDb, TCMDb, AFI, BFI etc. don't mention film director's name in an actor's filmography. The notable collaborations are mentioned in the lead. An actor's role in the film, year of release and the film's title are the important things as far as a filmography is concerned. We have notes column for mentioning particularly important info. --Skr15081997 (talk) 04:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
More comments coming soon. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:31, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Since when has IMDb been a reliable source? I also wanted to suggest that you follow WP:FILMOGRAPHY so that the table doesn't feel incomplete. As for my other comments...
@Kailash29792:, the Director column has been added and all names under it sorted. --Skr15081997 (talk) 06:15, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The picture should have an "alt" description, along with when it was taken (write like, "Ajay Devgn in [year])
Added
  • Character names should not include honorifics or titles unless necessary (see WP:HONORIFIC).
Removed
  • Makkhi is the Hindi-dubbed version of Eega. You could mention that in the table under "notes".
Added
  • Centre the dash in the rows of Haal-e-Dil and Save The Girl Child.
Done
  • Mention Mahabharat as an animated film under "notes".
Done
@Kailash29792: I have made the changes as requested. For the link rotting thing, the URL's have been archived and if some of them turn dead the archive-links will be provided. Adding them all for 100+ citation will increase the page size unnecessarily. I have also checked the WP:FILMOGRAPHY page. The 3 tables given there don't use the Director column. So I don't think that adding them to this list is really mandatory. Thanks for your time and thorough review. --Skr15081997 (talk) 07:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Looks great to me. --Kailash29792 (talk) 06:39, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Ssven2
  • "Devgn played a blind rebel" — Rebelling for what exactly?
I checked the film's plot. The rebel info has been corrected.
  • "Devgn played a character loosely modelled after Dawood Ibrahim in Ram Gopal Varma's critically acclaimed gangster film Company (2002).Further, he portrayed the revolutionary Bhagat Singh in Santoshi's biopic The Legend of Bhagat Singh, which won him his second National Film Award in 2002 and Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor along with Company." — Can be rephrased as "Devgn played a character loosely modelled after Dawood Ibrahim in Ram Gopal Varma's critically acclaimed gangster film Company (2002). Further, he portrayed the revolutionary Bhagat Singh in Santoshi's biopic The Legend of Bhagat Singh, which won him his second National Film Award in 2002; he received the Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor for both films."
Rephrased

@Skr15081997: That's about it from me.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssven2: Changed both of these. --Skr15081997 (talk) 11:41, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I will now support this nomination. Good job with this list.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:40, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FrB.TG Wanted to do this earlier but I guess I forgot about it. Kinda underrated actor to be honest. Some of my favorites of his roles are in Company, Gangajal, Omkara and Drishyam. Anyway here are a few initial comments.

  • Perhaps mention that Raju Chacha was his film in which he also played a role.
Added the producer part.
  • "Further" is unneeded.
Removed
  • Perhaps the sentence with that word would be better as: "He won his second National Film Award for portraying the revolutionary Bhagat Singh in Santoshi's biopic The Legend of Bhagat Singh"?
Rephrased
  • I would de-link the genres.
Delinked all
  • Reference 14 is unneeded or extra.
Removed
  • My major concern here is the size of the lead. It could use some trim. You could especially remove some of his unimportant roles. It would also help the tone of the lead, which at the moment is a bit list-y to be honest i.e. "he did this then he did that". – FrB.TG (talk) 16:02, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, FrB.TG, I have removed the details of his short films, Bol Bachchan and the actress info in the first para. Given his extensive career and a variety of films, I had added only the films worth mentioning in the lead. If you feel that any of the titles can be removed go ahead. All help is appreciated. --Skr15081997 (talk) 07:11, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Instead of Bol Bachchan (which I added back), I removed Himmatwala (an embarrassment of his career to be honest) and some other unremarkable films of him. I also made some tweaks in hopes of improving the prose so pls see if I have altered meaning. Great work with the list of a great actor. PS I wonder why you haven't added his awards in "Notes". – FrB.TG (talk) 18:25, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
FrB.TG, thanks for your edits. They have made the lead much better. For the awards info, I feel that since there's a separate page for his accolades they shouldn't be mentioned in the notes column. Notable wins and noms can of course be mentioned in the lead. Thanks for your help and review. --Skr15081997 (talk) 05:24, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: The list qualifies every FL criteria. Well Done!Krish | Talk 13:11, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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