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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 11 September 2021 [1].

2015 Africa Cup of Nations Final edit

Nominator(s):  — Amakuru (talk) 11:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My article at 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Final recently became featured, so I'm now moving on to the 2015 edition of the same competition. The Africa Cup of Nations is the continent's premier tournament for national teams, equivalent to the UEFA European Championship in Europe, and second only to the FIFA World Cup in terms of prestige for African teams. The 2015 final featured Ghana and the Ivory Coast, 4-time- and 1-time-winners respectively. The game was unfortunately not the most exciting ever, finishing 0–0 with few chances for either side. The championship was therefore settled by a penalty shoot-out, which Ivory Coast won 9–8 after Ghana's goalkeeper missed a kick against his opposite number, and he Ivorian goalkeeper then scored. Note that I have another FAC currently open at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/UEFA Euro 2008 Final/archive1, in which I'm a co-nominator, (and more feedback on that one is certainly welcomed!) while this one's a solo nomination.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Image licensing is OK, but I don't see where the information in File:CIV-GHA-2015-02-08.png is cited either in the image description or the article (it should be easily verifiable in both places). (t · c) buidhe 11:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Buidhe: I have sourced the information to the BBC Sport page, and put a citation both in the file and in the article (ref [33] against the two team names). There were some slight discrepancies between the BBC's version of the formation and the one in the file, so I've updated the file to match. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 15:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Edwininlondon edit

Nice to see you building up a collection of FAs for African football. With the caveats that I am neither an expert in African football nor a native speaker of English, here are my comments:

  • Check the article for MOS:NUM issues. In 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Final we have "The tournament consisted of sixteen teams who had qualified for the event, divided into four round-robin groups consisting of four teams" but here we have "The tournament consisted of 16 teams, who were divided into 4 groups of 4, each team playing the other 3 group members once in a round-robin format."
    I think the same problem was in 2017 re that paragraph, so I've amended to match that. Also a couple of 10 -> ten re penalties and players. Other than that, I can't see any obvious inconsistencies. Times of the match are all digits, while most other bits and bobs are lower numbers written as words.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I too think the times of the match have to be in digits.
  • link sudden death perhaps?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ghana also appeared --> repetition of the word also
    First one amended.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ghana were placed in Group C --> this suggests a deliberate act. Was it? Usually it is a random draw
    I don't think so. I think I just meant that CAF placed them there, by whatever means. Not really needed though, I've removed "placed".  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • after 14 minutes through a André Ayew penalty, after --> repetition of after
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The match remained goal-less until injury time at the end in the second half, and Ghana appeared poised to exit the tournament. --> this confused me: it makes me believe Algeria scored
    Right. It was based on the BBC article's phrasing "dramatic late winner to keep alive his side's hopes of reaching the Africa Cup of Nations quarter-finals", but in reality I don't think Ghana would have been completely eliminated even if they'd not won. So I've removed that aspect and just left the fact that they scored a last minute winner.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • drive --> needs either a better description or a link
    I guess it means a straight shot, but the Glossary of association football terms doesn't even cover it. So just changed to "shot".  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • being in the ascendency --> this is a bit too cryptic for me
    Changed to "more possession", which I assume is what is implied by "against the run of play".  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • midway through the second half sealed --> that is the 3rd "seal" in short succession.
    Reduced to one occurrence, with changes to "earn" and "complete".  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Summary --> in 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Final this section was called Match. Why is this idfferent?
    Just an error I think. Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • a studs-first high foul --> I don't think you need that "high", and studs should probably be linked
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • with a run and shot from 25 yards (23 m) by Mubarak, but his shot was blocked by Tiene --> not the most elegant sentence. A rewrite would be nice
    Rewritten.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • having taken a kick, the two goalkeepers were required to take a kick --> having had a turn, the two goalkeepers were required to take a kick
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is an empty External links section
    Technically it's not empty, as there's a {{Commons category}} template in there. It's over on the right though, so maybe looks odd. Happy to take any advice on this.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Final has a See also section. Add one here too?
    Yeah OK. 2017 Africa Cup of Nations knockout stage is vaguely useful as a "parent" to this article I suppose.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's all from me. Edwininlondon (talk) 12:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Edwininlondon: all points addressed I think. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All looks good to me, a comprehensive account of the match. I Support on prose. If you have some spare time, perhaps you might fancy taking a look at my FAC nomination, also a football article: Manon Melis. Thanks. Edwininlondon (talk) 18:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by Z1720 edit

Non-expert prose review.

  • "Then Ghana's Christian Atsu had what writers" Delete then, as it is assumed that this happened afterwards and is redundant.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the third paragraph in the lede needs to be expanded, with more information about the aftermath of this match.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was originally scheduled to take place in Morocco, but the Confederation of African Football (CAF) made the decision to move it to Equatorial Guinea in 2014. Morocco had requested a postponement as a result of the ongoing Western African Ebola virus epidemic, but CAF refused and instead decided to remove Morocco's rights to host the event" -> Morocco was originally chosen to host the event, but the country requested a postponement of the event because of the Western African Ebola virus epidemic. CAF refused, and instead moved the event to Equatorial Guinea in 2014." This tightens up the language a little bit.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "their sole victory coming in 1992 when they defeated Ghana on sudden death in a penalty shootout at the end of a goalless draw at the Stade de l'Amitié in Dakar, Senegal." The text after draw can be deleted, as we already know what year this event took place in and the location of the 1992 event is not important for this article.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In their second game, Ghana faced Algeria, on 23 January in Mongomo." Delete the second comma
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The match remained goal-less" In the section before, it is spelt goalless. Which is correct for your style of English?
    I think goalless probably, looking at other articles.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "when Ghana who took the lead, Asamoah Gyan scoring from a long pass by Mubarak Wakaso." -> "when Ghana took the lead after Asamoah Gyan scored from a long pass by Mubarak Wakaso."
    Done, although I've amended "after" to "as", as it doesn't sound quite right to say that the taking of the lead happened later than the goal.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "an Ayew winner gave them a 2–1 win and first place in the group." -> an Ayew goal?
    Done (although I've also tweaked the language on the Masango goal to say "volley", to avoid repetition.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "but Ivory Coast nonetheless earned a draw with a Seydou Doumbia equaliser on 72 minutes." delete nevertheless as redundant.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and a goal by Wilfried Kanon midway through the second half complete their second consecutive 3–1 win and a place in the final." Change to "completed their"
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The first chance of the game fell to Yaya Touré on 12 minutes, with a free kick, but despite him clearing the wall, his shot went straight to Ghanaian goalkeeper Brimah Razak, who caught it." -> "Yaya Touré had the first chance to score in the game on 12 minutes; he cleared the wall on a free kick but his shot went straight to Ghanaian goalkeeper Brimah Razak, who caught it." This removed "fell to", which is an idiom since the ball did not literally fall to Toure, and it removes some of the commas.
    Done (with slight tweaks).  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ghana were attempting to find Atsu with a series of long passes," What does it mean to find someone? Please reword.
    Reworded.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ivory Coast launched an attack down the right on 33 minutes, through Bailly and Gradel, the latter attempting to find Gervinho in the penalty area, but despite a defensive error from Boye, Razak was able to collect the ball." -> "Ivory Coast launched an attack down the right on 33 minutes, through Bailly and Gradel, with the latter attempting to find Gervinho in the penalty area. Despite a defensive error from Boye, Razak was able to collect the ball." This separates the sentences and reduces commas.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Earlier in the article, it stated the country's FIFA scores before the tournament. Did the teams advance or decline in the standings as a result of this tournament?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Those are my comments. Please ping when the above are resolved. Z1720 (talk) 21:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: apologies for the delay, I've now looked at all your points here. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't worry about delays: I have taken far longer to respond to comments in FACs, and Wikipedia is a volunteer service. All my concerns have been addressed and I support this article. Z1720 (talk) 14:55, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from TRM edit

  • "qualified for the final by finishing as the winners of Group C and then" assumes our readers know what "Group C" is, perhaps you could make it "their qualifying group" or something and reword to avoid being over-"qualified" in that sentence.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ghanaian wall with" link wall to gloss.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • post/goalpost. I saw a review recently which asked me to be consistent with similar terms......
    Touché! Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why is BBC Sport in italics when our article is at BBC Sport?
    Maybe this is BBC Sport as a website purveying information to the public, which is published by BBC Sport the publisher. It's getting a bit frustrating because different people seem to ask for different things when it comes to this, and my understanding is that as long as the styling is consistent and logical, it doesn't have to conform exactly to the way other pages do it. See for example 2017 Africa Cup of Nations Final, which is a recently-reviewed FA where BBC Sport is italicised. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't get frustrated on my behalf, I'll settle for internal consistency. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 12:01, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ghana's Afriyie Acquah was" already linked.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the group stage" link?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Confederation of African Football (CAF), is the ... The Confederation of African Football (CAF) refused..." overlinked and no need to re-abbreviate.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the event, but the country requested a postponement of the event" probably axe the second "of the event".
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Group C for the group phase" group/group...
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a André Ayew penalty" link PK.
    Done (and reworded to avoid SEAOFBLUE issues).  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "been fouled" link foul.
    Done (and later one unlinked).  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Substitute Moussa Sow then" his name was Substitute Moussa Sow? (bit sea of blue)
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "quarter finals" hyphen.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "reporters for BBC Sport as" you linked BBC Sport here but not in the lead. Same comment re: italics.
    Fixed. (but see above re italics)  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "placed the ball" sounds a bit "handy".
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "complete a comfortable 3–0 win' POV
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ghana's substitutes on' you've already linked substitute, although to a different target.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Group stage and knockouts" doesn't seem adequate for caption, perhaps include whose group/KOs in each one?
    Titles amended as per UEFA Euro 2008 Final, which looks like it does a good job.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, perhaps some abbrevation pop-up for QF/SF? Is it clear to a non-expert the three games above the thick line are group/round-robin and those below are knockout?
    Abbreviation added, and other text as per UEFA Euro 2008 Final, which looks like it does a good job.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to the Ebola epidemic" (and the one mentioned in the background) - any links?
    Added on first mention.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "amid some poor Ivorian defending" POV.
    Removed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Estadio de Bata" which is where?
    Added "in Bata", even though this does sound slightly repetitive!  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "long-range follow-up easily" shot
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "first foul on" should have been linked further back.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Atsu sent a cross into the Ivory Coast penalty area" cross overlinked, link penalty area.
    Removed the link. Penalty area is linked in the first sentence of this paragraph though.
  • Forgot, a bit earlier, link "with a free kick, but" free kick.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "sudden-death" is there a link for this?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Wakaso Mubarak" our article has him at 'Mubarak Wakaso'
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "game on 25 minutes, when he hit the goalpost " vs "snapshot that hit the post after 26 minutes"...
    I guess this is a source discrepancy on the exact timing. I've removed the "26 minutes" part from the France24 quote and made it 25 minutes in the lead and body, per the BBC.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "2nd place" etc, i think you can go second/third here.
    OK. It is comparable with the 3rd, 28th, 5th, 37th, that we used earlier in the article, but I guess that is a large distance from this piece of text.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "eliminated in the group stage" link?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 6, can add contributors and a last updated as publication date.
    I've added the first publication date. Not sure about contributors, it seems to be attributed to a nebulous "The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica". What would you recommend?  — Amakuru (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 27 is ESPN but you only have PA. And PA is an agency in some of the other refs, e.g. 21, so shouldn't you include it there?
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 29/33 both France 24 but not linked, and one (33) has a publisher.
    Agence France-Presse is there not as a publisher, but an agency. Blame the template for displaying them the same way! Link fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 35, what makes GhanaWeb a high-quality RS?
    It was queried at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_214#Ghanaian_websites, and the response there was that it should be reliable due to its full editorial oversight.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 36, looks like Mike Hutchings is the author.
    I think Hutchings is the Reuters photographer who took the various pictures in the article, rather than its author?[2]  — Amakuru (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 40, not sure you need both FIFA.com and FIFA.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:41, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I think I've looked at all your points now. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, cool, happy to support as my concerns have been generally addressed. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 14:44, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from TRM - pass edit

Reliable editor using high quality sources, I'll just comment on those refs I find which might need to be addressed. To avoid ref confusion if any get switched around, I'm looking at this version of the page.

  • Ref 4 - fine, but our article on Deutsche Welle says it's a publisher so needn't be italicised.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 6 - I have seen Encyc. Brit. sources give the names of the contributors for the version being referenced.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:29, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 7 - just leads to the current rankings, not the historical rankings so could use instructions on to get to the page you intend unless a perma-link can be provided.
    It turns out there is a permalink (which is in already in use for the other rankings) so I've switched to that. They'll have to either manually count or click the "CAF" button to get the Africa-specific rankings though.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 10 - our article doesn't italicise Sportsnet.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 12 - I get a publication date of 24 January 2015.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 19 - We don't normally italicise Reuters.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 21 - I guess since you call out AP in ref 10, you ought to do the same for PA Media here.
    I've agencied it as Press Association, per [27]  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 22 - Reuters again, which is worse because of ...
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... Ref 23 - Reuters is not italicised here.
  • Ref 24 - what makes Once A Metro high quality RS?
    It is published by Vox Media, and looks to me like it has full editorial oversight, and the usual jazz.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 26 - author name missing.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 27 - showing dead for me.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 29 - last modified on 5 February 2015.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 30 - no access-date.
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 34 - author name missing.
    Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have, no major concerns with any of the other refs. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@WP:FAC coordinators: with the customary three supports/image/source review in place, can I nominate another candidate please? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, go ahead. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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