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Category:Italian physicians by field

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The result of the debate was Delete (already emptied) --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Empty and redundant to Category:Italian physicians by specialty. Punkmorten 23:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hip hop producers to Category:Hip hop record producers

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The result of the debate was rename. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cat should be renamed for consistency with other cats and to avoid confusion. --musicpvm 23:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:East Orangeites to Category:People from East Orange, New Jersey

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The result of the debate was rename (I made a category redirect). --RobertG ♬ talk 10:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another category name with a demonym that needs renaming --musicpvm 23:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Heretic-HeXen to Category:Serpent Riders series

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The result of the debate was delete (empty). Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All of the Heretic and HeXen games are part of the so-called Serpent Riders series. In my opinion, the category should have the name of the series, not the names of the main games in the series strung together. -- De Zeurkous ([email removed]), Mon Jul 10 22:02:32 UTC 2006

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Category:Defunct sports facilities to Category:Defunct sports venues

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The result of the debate was rename. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The word "venues" is widely used in Category:Sports venues and its subcategories, but the word "Facilities" is not. Twittenham 21:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Legend of Zelda deletions

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 08:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Legend of Zelda

Category:Legend of Zelda characters
Category:Legend of Zelda places
Category:Legend of Zelda villains
Category:Legend of Zelda weapons and items
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Legend of Zelda renaming

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The result of the debate was Rename (with capitalised "The"). --RobertG ♬ talk 08:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

Category:The Legend of Zelda to Category:The Legend of Zelda series

Category:The Legend of Zelda places to Category:Places in the Legend of Zelda series
Category:The Legend of Zelda villains to Category:Villains from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:The Legend of Zelda weapons and items to Category:Weapons and items from the Legend of Zelda series

Merge and rename

Category:The Legend of Zelda characters to Category:Characters from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:The Legend of Zelda series characters to Category:Characters from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:Legend of Zelda games to Category:Games from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:The Legend of Zelda games to Category:Games from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:Legend of Zelda media to Category:Media from the Legend of Zelda series
Category:The Legend of Zelda media to Category:Media from the Legend of Zelda series
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United States judicial cases

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The result of the debate was No consensus to rename -- so I looked up the practice at http://www.uscourts.gov/districtcourts.html. When used in a sentence, they are "United States district courts". Thus, it appears that the person that made each category had some clue about legal naming. Sure enough, the creator is a fairly newly minted lawyer, knowledgable about current case citations. To reflect the actual world, both are properly named. --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename one, but only one, of these categories, below. Frankly, I don't care which one. but it must be consistent.

Category:United States Court of Appeals cases → Category:United States court of appeals cases

Category:United States district court cases → Category:United States District Court cases

For the sake of consistency in capitalization, either both groups of courts should be capitalized, or neither.

Previously, I have nominated them separately, and neither suggestion passed. So now we can debate them together.

—Markles 19:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Television series by company

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The result of the debate was rename all. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting with additions
See this discussion for more details. - Lady Aleena @ 18:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buena Vista Television shows to Category:Television series by Buena Vista Television
Category:CBS Paramount Television shows to Category:Television series by CBS Paramount Television
Category:Disney television series to Category:Television series by Disney
Category:Fox Television Studios shows to Category:Television series by Fox Television Studios
Category:FremantleMedia TV shows to Category:Television series by FremantleMedia
Category:NBC Universal Television shows to Category:Television series by NBC Universal Television
Category:Procter & Gamble Productions to Category:Television series by Procter & Gamble Productions
Category:Sony Pictures Television shows to Category:Television series by Sony Pictures Television
Category:TV shows produced/distributed by Warner Brothers to Category:Television series by Warner Bros. Television
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Category:Modern destroyers

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The result of the debate was Keep, and not properly nominated --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a redundant category in my opinion, as there is already a category for destroyers. It is also only filled with Korean destroyers, so it seems that someone created it simply because he/she wanted to make those 3 Korean destroyer types "special". There is a sub-category, but that too is just for "Indian modern destroyers" and similarly very empty. Given that hardly anyone is using it, I don't see why it should stay. I think it should be deleted. John Smith's 18:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I incline towards delete, but there are actually many categories in Category:Modern ships, yet no definition of modern is given. Twittenham 21:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It looks like John Smith's didn't actually tag the category page as cfd. The facts of category usage have changed since his proposal was made on 10 July and the active editors should be properly involved. By all means do that by making a fresh proposal to delete. --Mereda 14:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. A large recategorization project is in progress on WP:SHIPS and Modern destroyers fits into the scheme. It will be filled in coming weeks and months. TomTheHand 15:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, the nominator has been emptying this category himself to make it appear insignificant. The purpose of the category is to list destroyers currently in service, so it is not redundant. TomTheHand 15:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of Jewish descent in Great Britain

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The result of the debate was merge to Category:British Jews. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are we doing People of Jewish descent? Any reason to exclude Northern Ireland? This should probably (A) be renamed Category:People of Jewish descent in the United Kingdom (subcat of Category:Jews and Judaism in the United Kingdom), (B) Deleted entirely, or (C) merged into Category:British Jews, or (D) something I didn't think of. -- ProveIt (talk) 17:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Food portals to Category:Food and drink portals

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The result of the debate was rename. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should be self-explanatory. kingboyk 16:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Religion portals to Category:Philosophy and religion portals

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The result of the debate was No consensus to merge --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Portals has been turned into more of a category-of-thematic subcategories, which is great for organisation and navigation. However, I think religion portals being 2 levels down is too much. Category:Philosophy and religion portals makes good organisational sense to me so I propose merging the subcategory Category:Religion portals into it. kingboyk 16:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Brazilian sex symbols

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The result of the debate was Delete (already emptied) --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV category. category:Sex symbols does not exist. I think it was deleted last year. Honbicot 16:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Medicine and health in Brazil to Category:Health in Brazil

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The result of the debate was merge. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into the conventionally named category:Health in Brazil. Honbicot 16:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Batman locations to Category:DC Comics locations

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The result of the debate was merge per nom. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needless splitting of category. It's also technically incorrect since many of these "locations" listed at the time of nomination are in fact organizations, objects or used in a larger context than just "Batman" comics. Once those are removed the category is underpopulated. CovenantD 15:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Female U.S. Governors to Category:Female state governors of the United States

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The result of the debate was Delete (6:4), more appropriate to a list --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This proposal removes the abbreviation and matches the related articles, but perhaps it should be category:Female American state governors and the others should be renamed to match? Chicheley 21:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Relisting for further discussion. the wub "?!" 15:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Leaders of cities in the United States to Category:American mayors

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A better name for inclusion in Category:Mayors by country which is what they really are. The proposed name is shorter and clearer about the contents. If there are notable city managers they can be placed in a category for that title. But city leaders are generally know as Mayor. If this really is mostly about mayors, then why not use mayor in the name? If results of this nomination are positive, then the subcategories would need to also be renamed. Vegaswikian 06:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:Mayors in the United States; it already exists, and keeps with the trend of preferring "X of/in the United States" to "American X". —Zero Gravitas 06:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There appears to be a naming convention for the proposed form. Vegaswikian 06:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If that's the case, move per nom. —Zero Gravitas 07:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- The subcategories should not be renamed. Therefore, the parent category should follow the convention for the children.
    1. We've already been over this state by state for the past 8 months:
      • Some US states have Mayors only, some have managers, some have both.
      • Some Mayors are executive, some are honorary, some are legislative.
      • The law varies by state under the theory of home rule.
    2. Note that the UK and others also have Leaders of cities.
    3. Wikipedia is not the world legal body for enforcement of uniformity.
    4. I cannot find the discussion of any Category:Mayors by country decision that resulted in the spurious Naming convention. --William Allen Simpson 03:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • If kept, we should still have the mayor categories since almost everyone listed is a mayor and that is the common term in the US and around the world. They can be a subcat of leaders if that's the compromise point. Vegaswikian 05:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename. "mayors" is much clearer than "leaders of cities". -- User:Docu
relisted from June 16 for further discussion Tim! 09:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Leaders of cities in the United States should be merged into Category:Mayors in the United States. As it is, ALL of the items currently listed are in fact mayors. The subcats should also be renamed as Mayors in X (state). That the office of mayor has varying powers in different places is largely irrelevent to categorization (if anything, those with a ceremonial mayoral position arguably should NOT be included in the category of "leaders of cities in ..."). If there ever arises a need to categorize City Managers, they should go into a separate hierarchy, with a head of something like "Administrators of cities in ..." older ≠ wiser 16:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment We need a category for mayors and maybe additional categories for other people. The situation in England and Wales is that some (but not all) towns and cities have lord mayors or mayors; they are usually honorary but recently some executive ones have been created. Where there is no mayor, there is an nonorary chairman. There is also a council leader. There is also an unelected chief executive, whether or not there is a mayor. --Runcorn 19:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting for further discussion. the wub "?!" 15:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Swiss brands

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The result of the debate was Withdrawn --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Already covered by Category:Companies of Switzerland. -- ProveIt (talk) 15:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Brazilian games to Category:Computer and video games developed in Brazil

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The result of the debate was rename. --RobertG ♬ talk 09:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one other such category, and it used the format above. Honbicot 15:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Public organizations

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The result of the debate was Delete (already emptied) --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a duplicate of Category:Government institutions? -- ProveIt (talk) 14:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sarcastic fictional characters

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The result of the debate was Delete --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whether a character is sarcastic seems POV -- some characters are sarcastic sometimes but not others. Chandler Bing? It's highly arguable he's not sarcastic but sardonic, for example. The category itself also seems of limited encyclopedic use. Tenebrae 14:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Crime Epics

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The result of the debate was Delete --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing and undefined category, seems to list real crime families/organized criminals, fictional ones, and movies about fictional ones. Doesn't seem to really add anything to articles. W.marsh 14:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Space Marine Chapters (Warhammer 40,000) to Category:Space Marine Chapters

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The result of the debate was rename. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded disambiguation, I'm not aware of any other Space Marines that are divided into Chapters. Category:Chaos Space Marine Legions does not have a qualifier. Note that the capitalisation of Chapters is correct. the wub "?!" 10:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Eighty Years' War (Persons) to Category:Eighty Years' War people

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The result of the debate was rename. Conscious 18:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed name is in the most common form for this type of category. Honbicot 06:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hurricane Devon's uploads

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The result of the debate was Delete, but first check for copyvios --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopedic - do we need to create Category:BigDT's xFD nominations? BigDT 05:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish cowboys

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The result of the debate was Delete --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a meaningful categorization, except perhaps for Jewish gauchos. But this category's only member is Kinky Friedman, who, despite his lovely schtick, is no more a cowboy than his fellow Texans who "know every trail in the Lone Star State, 'cause I ride the range in a Ford V-8". Pharos 03:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Totalitarian and political youth organizations to Category:Totalitarian youth organizations

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The result of the debate was Delete --William Allen Simpson 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"And political" is exceptionally vague, and marries two topics which have nothing in common. Dahn 00:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I too believe that "delete" is the best solution. I initially thought nominating it in this manner would be less controversial, perhaps leading to a discussion on whether it should be kept at all (it seems I was right). Dahn 16:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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