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XFD backlog
  Oct Nov Dec Jan TOTAL
CfD 0 8 8 30 46
TfD 0 0 0 9 9
MfD 0 0 0 6 6
FfD 0 0 0 6 6
AfD 0 0 0 23 23

Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.

For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:

  1. Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
  2. Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.

Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.

When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.

ScopeEdit

CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.

Current discussionsEdit

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Discussions awaiting closureEdit

XFD backlog
  Oct Nov Dec Jan TOTAL
CfD 0 8 8 30 46
TfD 0 0 0 9 9
MfD 0 0 0 6 6
FfD 0 0 0 6 6
AfD 0 0 0 23 23

See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.


How to use CfDEdit

Nomination procedureEdit

TwinkleEdit

You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.

Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.

Manual nominationsEdit

I
Preliminary steps.

Before nominating a category:

In the following special cases:

For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

II
Edit the category.

Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.

If the category is a candidate for speedy renaming or merging, use {{subst:cfr-speedy|Proposed name}} and follow the instructions at the Speedy page.
Otherwise, if nominating a single category:
If nominating a group of related categories, use a bundled nomination:
  • For deleting, use {{subst:cfd|CfD section name}}
  • For merging, use {{subst:cfm|Other category|CfD section name}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:cfr|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
  • For splitting, use {{subst:cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2|CfD section name}}
  • For converting the category into a list, {{subst:cfl|Proposed name|CfD section name}}
  • For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion|CfD section name}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter)
Alternatively, leave a message at User talk:DannyS712 requesting that a bot tag the categories for you.
  • Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
  • To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. {{cfd full}}, {{cfm full}}, {{cfr full}}, {{cfs full}} and {{cfl full}}. Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page.
  • Consider adding {{subst:cfd-notify|Category name|2020 January 29|CfD section name}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator.
  • For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.
III
Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this.

If nominating a single category:
  • For deleting, use {{subst:cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}}
  • For merging, use {{subst:cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}}
  • For renaming, use {{subst:cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}}
  • For splitting, use {{subst:cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~}}
  • For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}
  • For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}}
For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows:
==== Cfd section name ====
* 1st category
* 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming]
* Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature.
  • If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using {{hidden}} to hide some of the nominated categories.
  • In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]].
  • Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Stub typesEdit

I
Preliminary steps.

In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:

  • Read and understand guidance for creating stub types and stub type naming conventions.
  • Review the list of existing stub types—be advised, this list may not be comprehensive.
  • If you wish to:
    • Create a new stub type—follow the procedure for proposing new stub types.
    • Delete, merge or rename a stub category only, without deleting or renaming the associated stub template—follow the instructions above this section.
    • Delete or rename a stub template—continue to section II.
II
Edit the template.

Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.

  • For deletion, {{subst:sfd-t|Section name}}
  • For renaming, {{subst:sfr-t|Proposed name|Section name}}
  • Please include "SFD" or "SFR" in the edit summary, and don't mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
  • Consider notifying the template's creator on their talk page. To find the contributor, check the page history of the stub template.
III
Create the CFD section.

Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries.

Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update TemplateName, ProposedName and Reason):

For {{Sfd-t}}, use:

==== Template:TemplateName ====
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lt|TemplateName}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~

For {{Sfd-r}}, use:

==== Template:TemplateName ====
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[Template:TemplateName]] to [[Template:ProposedName]] 
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~
  • In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating.
  • Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Notifying interested projects and editorsEdit

In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd-notify|Category name|2020 January 29|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.

Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the category

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd-notify}} to inform the category's creator and {{Cfdnotice2}} for all other editors.

Notifying other interested editors

It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.

Closing procedureEdit

After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.

Redirecting categoriesEdit

In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.

In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relationsCategory:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.

A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.

Speedy renaming and merging

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

  1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
  2. Tag category with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
  3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

Speedy criteriaEdit

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixesEdit

  • Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
  • Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practicesEdit

C2C: Consistency with established category tree namesEdit

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

  • This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
  • This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
  • This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's nameEdit

  • Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
  • This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply, even if an article is the primary topic of its name.
  • This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result.
  • This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.

C2E: Author requestEdit

  • This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
  • The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous articleEdit

  • This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).

Admin instructionsEdit

When handling the listings:

  1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
  2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
  3. Make sure that there are no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussionsEdit

  • A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
    • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
    • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
  • If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging hereEdit

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)

Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 02:50, 27 January 2020 (UTC). Currently, there are 112 open requests (refresh).


Current requestsEdit

Opposed requestsEdit

  • Oppose all, because cats by profession & city are justified when it's a large enough city for there to be enough members. There not being enough articles for similar cats for all the other boroughs for the same profession in GM doesn't mean that there shouldn't be cats for the city, for which there are enough articles. These cats should be withdrawn from speedy because they're not eligible for it. Jim Michael (talk) 00:53, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
  • They are all eligible under C2E. Perhaps I should just empty them? Rathfelder (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Category:ITV to Category:ITV (TV network) – C2D: Article is at ITV (TV network). Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
    Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
    Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
    I know the company very well. There are subcats in the category that are not limited to the networks, such as Category:ITV people; given an admittedly close call such as this one, I think the preference is for the top-level category to match the ultimate corporate parent. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Category:Works about the Chernobyl nuclear disaster to Category:Works about the Chernobyl disaster – I'm not sure which these fall under but the main article's long-standing title is simply "Chernobyl disaster" so I do not see why "nuclear" is necessary or appropriate. I grieve in stereo (talk) 20:49, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
    • Category:Books about the Chernobyl nuclear disaster to Category:Books about the Chernobyl disaster
      Oppose - I created both of these subcategories, and I included the word "nuclear" after careful consideration. The main article & its primary category should both be renamed for clarity & consistency, as is the case with Category:Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster and ALL of its articles. Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
      So what? That is not "careful consideration". You cannot be creating categories based off what you think the main article should be named. You should move/propose to move the main article first then name/move the category. I don't see your name anywhere on the main article's talk page discussing a possible move. So don't you think you are getting ahead of yourself? I grieve in stereo (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
      Good grief. Where do you get off telling me "That is not 'careful consideration'"? I said it and I meant it. We've only just met, so you might want to cool your jets a little, kiddo. As for the categories: they're both SUBcategories, not the PRIMARY category - which isn't even up for discussion here. (Obviously, the main article will have to be renamed first before that category can be renamed.) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
      Because I am responding to what you wrote here in opposition to my speedy renaming proposal. I wasn't trying to sound angry, and I'm sorry that it sounded that way. You said you created the categories after careful consideration and then I read your reasoning here and what I am hearing is that you named the categories "Chernobyl nuclear disaster" because you concluded that the main article should be renamed to that. So because it is a subcategory you can include a variation of the main's title based on what you believe the main should be renamed to? You created these categories over 8 months ago, why hasn't the main page been renamed yet? This is the first time I have seen subcategories that include a rephrasing of the title of its main category. Again, I am not trying to come off angry I am genuinely interested in learning if what you are saying follows Wikipedia guidelines so I can edit accordingly in the future. I grieve in stereo (talk) 11:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
      @Anomalous+0: so what is the next step, will you start an RM for the article? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:34, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Added comment by nominator: The linked men's basketball record book explicitly treats Jefferson as the athletic successor to Philadelphia University and Philadelphia Textile (short form of three prior institutional names).
  • Had a brain fart and forgot to list the criterion. It's C2D per the official university name change. — Dale Arnett (talk) 06:13, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Well that doesn’t really work here, because there is no main article for the sports team. Both the current and former name are redirects. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Category:Scholars in Eastern Orthodoxy to Category:Eastern Orthodox scholars – C2C. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
    Oppose as ambiguous. The proposed title doesn't make it clear whether the category is about scholars of Eastern Orthodox faith or scholars of Eastern Orthodoxy. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
    @Armbrust: If it were about those studying Eastern Orthodoxy, wouldn't it have to be "Scholars of Eastern Orthodoxy" rather than "Scholars in Eastern Orthodoxy"? One is not necessarily "in" a religious tradition one studies.
    In any case, looking at the 225 articles in the category and its subcategories, it appears that every one of their subjects are Eastern Orthodox Christians (excepting Hugh Pilkington, whose religion isn't readily apparent from his article and a cursory Google search).
    Even if we were to put aside the use of the word "in" and the actual use of the category, the intention of the category seems evident from the category hierarchy. It falls within categories exclusively reserved for Eastern Orthodox and other Christian biographies, as it has been since December 2006, less than a month after the category was created. (I would assume that the reason it wasn't in a Christian-specific category on the date of its creation in November 2006 was that Category:Christian scholars wasn't created until just under two weeks later.) 142.160.131.220 (talk) 03:26, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
    For the avoidance of doubt, I've removed the category from Hugh Pilkington. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
    @Armbrust: In either case, I'm not sure how this wouldn't meet the speedy criteria. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 04:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussionEdit
  • None currently
Moved to full discussionEdit
  • WP:UKDISTRICTS explicitly gives Manchester as the correct term, in the bulleted para beginning "In around 45 cases". Oculi (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Category:Areas of computer science to Category:Subfields of computer science – C2C: Both the parent, Category:Subfields by academic discipline, and nearly half of the other subcats use "Subfields". (The rest are a hodgepodge of different words, such as Fields, Branches, Subdisciplines, etc.) NONE of them use "Areas". Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:36, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
    "The rest are a hodgepodge of different words" = no clear convention in the category, so oppose speedy. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
    If I was proposing to rename ALL of the other subcats to "Subfields" I would entirely agree with you - THAT would indeed require a fullblown CFD. But please note that this subcat is a very lonely outlier: the ONLY one that uses "Areas", and also the only one I'm trying to rename. Given that "Subfields" stands head & shoulders above the rest of the subcats and is also used in the parent category, it seems to me that Speedy can be allowed for this single category, just to get it out of the way. Anomalous+0 (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
    @Anomalous+0: moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
    This was relisted at CFD 2020 Jan 20. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Ready for deletionEdit

Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.

Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.

Empty categories awaiting deletionEdit

The categories listed below have been identified as empty using {{db-catempty}}, and will be speedily deleted after 7 days unless populated. (Note: Due to technical limitations, all contents of the category may not be displayed; view the category directly to see all contents.)

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