ZidarZ
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Welcome ZidarZ!I'm 2NumForIce, your mentor here on Wikipedia, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge.
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Your recent editing history at 1918 protest in Zagreb shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. (t · c) buidhe 21:51, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for educating me.
- Please note, as in a dance two people are required.
- If two people are required and participate, how is it decided which person "committed the crime"? You and I were involved in this "dance" - in fact you initiated it. With that established, who is to say that you, the "editor", a person that appears not to be a subject matter expert since he does not understand the Croatian language, are not in the wrong and I am the wronged party?
- I would have accepted you action in undoing my additions if there was at least even a reasonable explanation - but the comments were curt and glib. From my perspective - if you are capable of putting yourself into another person's perspective - you were being a jerk. A wiki-troll that gets off on the tiny bit of power they have. The online world is full of people like that. Mostly likely you are not, but your actions were interpreted differently.
- Think of this. Someone "joins the club", then makes an active effort to contribute, spends time to add something, and then come under attack by some anonymous person acting in a curt and glib way making insinuations with "red flags" and "good faith". How is the noob, feeling bullied, supposed to think about welcome to Wikipedia?
- How odd - there is no way that I can find by which to submit a complaint about a bully. ZidarZ (talk) 02:03, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, as you did at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Participants, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Accusing another editor of "controlling" a page, and apparently trying to dox them, is below the standard of civility at Wikipedia. If you feel another editor has done something wrong, please address it in a way that addresses the behavior you feel to be incorrect, rather than as an ad hominem attack. --Joy (talk) 19:13, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is criticism not allowed here?
- I was merely asking a question. I would quote it here but someone has deleted it. As for your allegation of "doxing", I was presenting information that is on Miki Filigranski's page to identify the person - thus I am not "doxing".
- I used the word "control" because he is the one that is doing most of the editing and deleting the work of others. To me, that looks like "control"?
- As for the page "Subic family", the page is pretty bad. Even after ten years, there has not been much improvement when there is a wealth of information available but little has been done.
- You speak of "assume bad faith" yet I have been the victim on bullying here on Wikipedia and it is difficult to have a positive outlook on this place as a noob. Yet, I, the victim, am now the bad guy.
- May I flip this conversation around? I see that you have been on Wikipedia since before 2004 and are participant #1 at WikiProject Croatia. Do you have no shame in allowing such a poor quality presentation of one of our greatest heroes to stand? After everything the Zrinski family did for our Homeland, do they not deserve a better article?
- Or is my POV and experience irrelevant and that is why you are throwing threats at me?
- I have spent ten years researching Nikola Zrinski and wrote the best English language book on the Siege of Sziget and could contribute much.
- For example, I did a major update to this page Siege of Valpovo
- The following are waiting approval
- Draft:1544: Battle of Konjščina
- Draft:Battle of Somlyó (1543)
- but if my contribution is not desired, just tell me and I will leave and not waste my time here. ZidarZ (talk) 20:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- On another point, is there a way to change an article title?
- I would like to change the draft "1544: Battle of Konjščina" to "Battle of Konjščina (1544)" but can't figure out how. Thank you. ZidarZ (talk) 20:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- One more question, if I may ask.
- I shared my draft for Battle of Somlyo (1543) on September 14.
- Do editors at Project Croatia have the ability to approve such articles? ZidarZ (talk) 20:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- BTW: it is difficult to have respect for Miki Filigranski because he told me that for stuff I try to write about Nikola Zrinski and events during the 1500s that books written in the 1500s and 1600s lack credibility because these primary sources are " outdated sources". To me, that is absurd. ZidarZ (talk) 22:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- This sounds a bit too emotional to lead to a useful outcome. Please (re-)read Wikipedia:Dispute resolution to learn how to deal with disagreements with other editors. --Joy (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for you brief answer.
- What are your thoughts on the quality of this work?
- ZidarZ (talk) 09:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't have the time to get involved in the specifics of a content dispute, I'm just trying to make sure that you all don't argue so much that you get blocked. If you read the docs there's links to noticeboards where other volunteers can help you figure that out. --Joy (talk) 11:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- This sounds a bit too emotional to lead to a useful outcome. Please (re-)read Wikipedia:Dispute resolution to learn how to deal with disagreements with other editors. --Joy (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: 1544: Battle of Konjščina (October 6) edit
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Hello, ZidarZ!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Qcne (talk) 23:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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