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Thank you, I have access to multiple sources of information both on and offline but many are subscription only or paper based records. Unfortunately for many people who preceded widespread digital references. He was awarded an OBE for public service and was the longest serving Principal Probation Officer in London's history. I am not sure how to proceed or whether he will remain in obscurity. Zaccwm (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
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  Your addition to Anne_Casey has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. I think it would be fine to have a mention of the award in the article, but your addition appeared to be a press release copied verbatim. We should probably just include a sentence or so, and provide an appropriate source for the information. Cheers, Basie (talk) 00:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer (January 19) edit

 
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer (January 20) edit

 
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Mirrors edit

  Thanks for contributing to the article Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable and attributed to reliable sources. You have recently used citations which copied, or mirrored, material from Wikipedia. This leads to a circular reference and is not acceptable. Most mirrors are clearly labeled as such, but some are in violation of our license and do not provide the correct attribution. Please help by adding alternate sources to the article you edited! If you need any help or clarification, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, or just ask me. Thank you. Sam Kuru (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Again, please stop using the 'en-academic.com' to support your article. This is a clearly-identified mirror and cannot be used as a source. Sam Kuru (talk) 11:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks for identifying the offending article. Many of the features of Wikipedia make cross referencing 'easy', it is hard to distinguish which are acceptable and which are not. The source of this information was the 2007 Centenary of Probation which is no longer available online. I have physical print outs of those pages but given that the internet archive failed to capture them completely it is hard to reference that information adequately. Zaccwm (talk) 12:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Zaccwm (talk) 22:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi I have updated the page as suggested including adding more references and removing the elements from his Eulogy. Hopefully it now reflects the requirements of Wikipedia, many thanks

Your submission at Articles for creation: Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer (February 7) edit

 
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Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for reviewing this article and providing your feedback. S C F Farmer was awarded an OBE for his service, wrote peer reviewed articles that are still being cited 70 years later and was internationally respected in his field. I am puzzled as to why he does not qualify? There are many examples of music personalities who get a category to themselves in the metadata, where as entire categories of social sciences are missing. I appreciate that many references are offline chapters in books or paywalled, but this is the case with many professions.
I would be grateful for advice as to why this is still declined... and how I can improve the chances of acceptance. 27 years leading probation in this country and advising around the world is fairly significant, enough to be recognised by his own profession in their centenary celebrations in 2007. However online references are challenging to identify, wikis can redress some of that balance, for people whose lives were largely pre-digital era and/or limited about what could be spoken about during their lifetimes. This can help people towards their research and highlight the contribution of public servants from a time when personal notoriety was not sought and references to them were often by role rather than name.
Thanks once again for helping to improve Wikipedia. Zaccwm (talk) 10:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mary Farmer (February 16) edit

 
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Netherzone (talk) 14:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer (February 16) edit

 
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Netherzone (talk) 14:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

AfC notification: Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer has a new comment edit

 
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer. Thanks! Netherzone (talk) 14:27, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi
Thanks for your help, I have updated the style and reduced the citations etc as suggested. I trust it can now be published. I have also had input from authors in the spere of probation to confirm the significance of his contribution and service. Many thanks Zaccwm (talk) 23:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

AfC notification: Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer has a new comment edit

 
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer. Thanks! Netherzone (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

AfC notification: Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer has a new comment edit

 
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Seldon Charles Forrester Farmer. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mary Farmer has been accepted edit

 
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Theroadislong (talk) 22:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks for your help and that of other reviewers. Does the message regarding COI remain in perpetuity? I have declared on my page (assuming I have done correctly) Zaccwm (talk) 22:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply