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Wikipedia:Kappa Pi Beta

Hello,I'm User:Naraht and I'm an experienced Wikipedia editor for whom Fraternities is one of my areas of emphasis. I'd like to comment a few things.

• The article was not placed in the correct "namespace". Right now it is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kappa_Pi_Beta which is in the "Wikipedia" space, when it is *ready* should be in the mainspace at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_Pi_Beta

• I'd have preferred to have discussion on adding Pillars and Virtues to the infobox fraternities, since they are for just one organization, but you appear to have done it correctly without messing anything else up, which is actually pretty impressive for a new editor (Infoboxes can be a pain)
• Large amounts of text (generally more than a sentence) cannot be copied directly from other webpages. it is a copyright violation (see WP:COPYVIO) so the history section can not be used. Even if it was not a direct copy, the flowery language would be inappropriate for Wikipedia. "a new breed of gentleman" for example. Compare to say alpha Kappa Delta Phi which while still it still has mild issues can be used as a guide.
• There are some other minor things, an occurence of 'univeristy', the link to the mascot should be [[Phoenix (mythology)|Phoenix]] to hide the disambiguator, and you may want to simply have 'Type II Diabetes' link directly as that phrase is a redirect to the right page.

I'm moving the page back into your User area until these issues (particularly the COPYVIO) can be taken care of. I want to help give this page the best chance of staying on Wikipedia and being the best page it can be. I'm watching your talk page, so you can respond here if you want, or on my talk page.Naraht (talk) 14:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

A couple of additional notes.

• A previous version of this page was deleted back in 2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kappa_Pi_Beta) , but the fact that Kappa Pi Beta is no longer a single school fraternity should help.
• Everything in the main paragraph after "Colony at University of Missouri" probably belongs down in the History section instead of what was there.
• References go immediately one after another rather than with spaces between so it shouldn't look like [1] [2] [3] [4] but rather [1][2][3][4]

Naraht (talk) 14:55, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Old version is still available

What got deleted were some of the various redirects, which given how many times it has been moved across spaces isn't unexpected. And I should have cleaned things up after moving it to your userspace.

The first one that you created is *still* at User:Violinbeats/Kappa Pi Beta, the new one at User:violinbeats/sandbox, let me know which one you want me to look at and I'll start making changes and suggestions.

For the other, if you want, you can just put a {{Db-g7}} up at the top and an administrator will come by and delete it. db-g7 is a type of speedy delete request, see WP:CSD for the complete list. Note, this article is complete enough that even if someone else thinks it should be deleted, it has to go through a "non-speedy" discussion, and I'll help with that.

And *almost* nothing is permanently deleted in wikipedia, even deleted articles can be restored to an editor's userspace by an administrator to work on if they think it can be brought up to a better standard. (to get things completely totally permanently deleted (and inaccessible by administrators), bring a court order written by lawyers who make more than you or I ever will, it is pretty tough)Naraht (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll use the new one in my sandbox.

Thanks! I'll just use the new one in my sandbox and delete the other. Could you help me look at the newly created one, please?

Starting my changes

I'm going to start with some changes...Naraht (talk) 01:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Mission Statement

The Mission Statement is *not* at the page that has its reference. It is only found at http://www.kappapibeta.org/info_mission.html and http://www.kpibuic.org/?page_id=3 . One of those would then be an appropriate reference.Naraht (talk) 02:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Signing posts

For responses on talk pages (not in articles), please end your postings with four tildes, like this ~~~~ that adds your signature to the response.Naraht (talk) 02:04, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I commented out the categories...

Article Categories should not be included while it is in userspace. When it is ready to move into mainspace, we'll uncomment (which should be soon.)Naraht (talk) 05:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kappa Pi Beta (August 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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The herald 07:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Violinbeats, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! The herald 07:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Kappa Pi Beta concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Kappa Pi Beta, a page you created, has not been edited in 6 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Kappa Pi Beta

Hello, Violinbeats. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Kappa Pi Beta".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by one of two methods (don't do both): 1) follow the instructions at WP:REFUND/G13, or 2) copy this code: {{subst:Refund/G13|Draft:Kappa Pi Beta}}, paste it in the edit box at this link, and click "Save page". An administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 02:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)