User talk:Twofingered Typist/Archives/2020/June

May 2020 GOCE drive bling

		The Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star
		This barnstar is awarded to Twofingered Typist for copy edits totaling over 100,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Words, 2nd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Twofingered Typist for copyediting 93,799 total words during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 2nd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Twofingered Typist for copyediting 9 long articles during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Twofingered Typist for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 11,523 words – during the GOCE May 2020 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2020 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since March 2020. You can unsubscribe from our mailings at any time; see below. All times and dates stated are in UTC. Current events Election time: Nomination of candidates in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 1 June, and voting will take place from 00:01 on 16 June. GOCE coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought about helping out at the Guild, or you know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. June Blitz: This blitz begins at 00:01 on 14 June and ends at 23:59 on 20 June, with themes of articles tagged for copyedit in May 2020 and requests. Drive and blitz reports March Drive: Self-isolation from coronavirus may have played a hand in making this one of our most successful backlog elimination drives. The copy-editing backlog was reduced from 477 to a record low of 118 articles, a 75% reduction. The last four months of 2019 were cleared, reducing the backlog to three months. Fifty requests were also completed, and the total word count of copy-edited articles was 759,945. Of the 29 editors who signed up, 22 completed at least one copy edit. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. April Blitz: This blitz ran from 12 to 18 April with a theme of Indian military history. Of the 18 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed a total of 60 copyedits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. May Drive: This event marked the 10th anniversary of the GOCE's copy-editing drives, and set a goal of diminishing the backlog to just one month of articles, as close to zero articles as possible. We achieved the goal of eliminating all articles that had been tagged prior to the start of the drive, for the first time in our history! Of the 51 editors who signed up, 43 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Other news Progress report: as of 2 June, GOCE participants had processed 328 requests since 1 January, which puts us on pace to exceed any previous year's number of requests. As of the end of the May drive, the backlog stood at just 156 articles, all tagged in May 2020. Outreach: To mark the 10th anniversary of our first Backlog Elimination Drive, The Signpost contributor and GOCE participant Puddleglum2.0 interviewed project coordinators and copy-editors for the journal's April WikiProject Report. The Drive and the current Election of Coordinators have also been covered in The Signpost's May News and Notes page. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 15:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC).

Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020 GOCE blitz bling

		The (modern) Guild of Copy Editors Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Twofingered Typist for copy edits totaling over 20,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE June 2020 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

A kind request

Hey, hope you are doing well. I was hoping that you could copyedit What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This?. It is a short article about the first film by Martin Scorsese. I would highly appreciate if you did. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 12:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: I notice the article was recently reviewed by a GOCE member. Is there something in particular about the copy edit you are concerned about? We have a long backlog of requests at the Guild page I am helping to clear up at present. Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

per this, it needs grammar and repetition copyedit. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 12:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: I'm quite sure the version of the article I went through after LegesRomanorum's copy edit contained no grammar mistakes. This version of the article has changed substantially from the earlier one and should have been treated as a new request, but I have gone through it and copy edited it anyway. Regards Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:53, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		Twofingered Typist, thank you for copyediting Keanu Reeves. These are really valuable changes. L150 13:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Lizzy150: Thank you! I appreciate it. Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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FYI --Brogo13 (talk) 16:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Quotation punctuation

Hi Twofingered Typist, many thanks for your copy edits of Agatha Christie. I have a question about quotation punctuation as another editor has recently moved numerous full-stops from outside quotations to inside (see this diff). I would appreciate your thoughts on whether these edits are in line with MOS:INOROUT, the relevant parts of which would seem to be:

• For the most part, this means treating periods and commas in the same way as question marks: keep them inside the quotation marks if they apply only to the quoted material and outside if they apply to the whole sentence, and
• If the quotation is a single word or a sentence fragment, place the terminal punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark.

Could you also have another look at the full-stop edits in this diff in light of the above and let me know what you think please? Thanks!  ~ RLO1729^💬 14:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@RLO1729: I suspect this is one of the thorniest questions re. the MOS. Since I do not have access to the original material, in this case books, I follow —On the English Wikipedia, use the "logical quotation" style in all articles, regardless of the variety of English in which they are written. Include terminal punctuation within the quotation marks only if it was present in the original material, and otherwise place it after the closing quotation mark.—and put the period after the quotation marks. (Even though what seems "logical" to WP often does not seem so to me!) The article has been reviewed for GA status with the periods after the quotation marks, so I would leave them there. Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

British placement depends on whether or not the quoted statement is complete or a fragment. Aight? Dis sayin' ... --Brogo13 (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

British placement is not mentioned in the MOS but go ahead and do what you want as is your practice.

Without explanation

So's "everything else" here. Anyway ... --Brogo13 (talk) 21:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Brogo13, it may help to explain yourself a bit more. The word "cliché" in that article is inside quotation marks because it is a direct quote from the author of the cited source. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

It's inside quotation marks because the author of the article put it there. Without them [there] nobody cares. --Brogo13 (talk) 05:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

The point is to show that the source called the film's title a cliché, and that the word, which could be seen as POV, is specifically not an interpretation or a paraphrase by one of the editors of the article. The quote marks enhance the NPOV of the article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Agatha Christie

I saw your tag but it looked like you hadn't edited for a while so I took a look at it. Hope you don't mind. Not a bad article, and your edits definitely were an improvement. --84.64.237.205 (talk) 11:41, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello:

I have been working on this article at the request of,RLO1729, an editor at the Guild of Copy Editors Request page. I notice you have tagged the article as being under copy edit. Could you let me know when you are done so I can continue my work?

Many thanks,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 11:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Ha, I didn't add the tag, you did. That's what my message above relates to. I've finished for now and you can continue. --84.64.237.205 (talk) 11:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh ... tag! (Apologies. Carry on.) --Brogo13 (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC) p.s. p.p.s.

The Agatha Christie Star for you!

		The Agatha Christie Star
		The Agatha Christie Star is hereby awarded to Twofingered Typist for making a significant contribution to the Agatha Christie article.  ~ RLO1729💬 14:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for great copy editing!  ~ RLO1729^💬 14:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

@RLO1729: Thank you!! Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

There's a userbox too: {{User:RLO1729/Userboxes/Agatha Christie Star}}   ~ RLO1729^💬 16:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)