User talk:Toussaint/Archive 4

Merging Podcasting & Aggregators templates without discussion?

Toussaint, you shouldn't have merged Podcasting & Aggregators templates without discussion. A lot of people worked hard building these templates, now their contribution history is also lost, and they should've had a say in this decison. --IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 10:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, this gigantic one size fits all template, does not fit all. How does the 'Podcasting' and 'Blogs and blogging' section fit with 'Aggregators'? --IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 11:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Because they all address the same subject, bar none. Syndication of content on the Web is almost always associated with blogs, podcasting and aggregation of feeds from blogs and podcasting. Finally, if you have any extra fingers, I can count the many linked articles duplicated in all two and/or three templates, starting with RSS, Atom, Web feed, Web syndication, Broadcatching, etc. Splitting them back to their originals is only a needless repetition and outspreading of effort on a number of articles which are linked to some tightly related subject matter, and its simply less disorganizing to bring all three subject matter (two of which are highly dependent or featuring upon the other as a vital application component) under a larger, more concise template. Finally, I have no problem with reorganizing templates as long I can be highly sure that the templates are related. --Toussaint (talk) 17:04, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that some of it can be merged, but not all of it. Currently content creation areas (podcasting, blogging) have been merged with the technological aspects (Aggregators). It's like merging types of television programs (serials, sitcoms etc) with types of televsion sets (CRT, Plasma, LCD etc). Sure they're related but they shouldn't be merged.

This template now looks too big and overwhelming and users will be deterred to use this template to navigate. It'll look better if Web syndication has Applications, Podcasting, Blogs and blogging. Aggregators has Technologies stays separate in another template.--IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 01:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

We could split it in half like you just said, but I feel very uneasy about the Technology section going with either-or template: going with Aggregators would separate Technology from the applications of such syndication and distribution, while going with Applications would separate the Technology from how it is received (although most of the Technology takes place server-side, while Aggregators only receive the content, thus placing Technology more in the Application camp anyway). --Toussaint (talk) 22:45, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks alright, the 'Technologies section' is more relevant to the 'Web syndication' side. As you said, since its server side. This concludes our broadcast... :-) --IncidentFlux ^{[ TalkBack | Contributions ]} 21:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bookmark toolbar

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Proposed deletion of Mayor of Dar es Salaam

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Template:Current Nigerian Senators - Deletion?

I see that this template, which you created, has been flagged for deletion. I noticed because I just started an article on Ike Ekweremadu (still very much work in progress) and saw the template linked to him. But none of articles on senators listed in this template include the template, so it is an orphan. I am not sure if there is great value in the template, but if it is kept the relevant articles should include it. In what scenario would you see it being useful to a reader? Aymatth2 (talk) 13:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• I renamed this to Template:Nigerian Senators of the 6th National Assembly. My reasoning is that it would be useful to have a similar Template:Nigerian Senators of the 5th National Assembly, and after the next election to have a Template:Nigerian Senators of the 7th National Assembly. That way, senators who are not reelected still show in the old template. Senators who are reelected can have a template for each assembly they belong to (it now loads collapsed, so would look o.k.) Comments? Aymatth2 (talk) 19:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

davfs2

Hi Toussaint, awhile back, you copy-edited the davfs2 article. It's now going through an AfD... If you have time could you help with the article? I did some of the latest work trying to improve it, but it may be insufficient to keep it around. Please help if you can/care. Thanks! --Mokhov (talk) 05:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Virtual file server

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Speedy deletion of Template:NG state navigation box

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Navigators USA

Navigators USA needs to be improved to show notability. It needs sources outside it's website and the UUA. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Nigerian Senator Templates

See Nuhu Aliyu, scroll to the foot, for the way these have evolved - a series now. I am still not quite sure what the value is, but I think there is some value. Aymatth2 (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:CourtsSweden

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Current TDs

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Mozilla Taiwan was created and but might be deleted!

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Too late, its gone. Thorenn (talk) 05:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of HUUmanists

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Michael and Peter Spierig

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2010 Haiti earthquake

Please do not remove cited material such as you did in 2010 Haiti earthquake. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 17:51, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I moved the material to a separate article as linked inside the original. --Toussaint (talk) 17:53, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

You removed the entire section. If a split is warranted, the parent article should retain a cited summary of what is covered in the subtopic. Please announce what you are doing on the article talk page. People will help you and may have different ideas. Please use edit summaries. This article changes very rapidly and its quality should be maintained. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 17:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I did split into a new article, and a split is needed because it will pile up with new information in the coming weeks about the status of rescue efforts. Most recent major event articles (Honduras, Iran, etc.) split their timeline sections into new articles because they will continue to grow with new efforts recorded by the day in the press (as the "article changes very rapidly"). I'm trying to write the summary in the main article at present. Thanks. --Toussaint (talk) 18:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree that a split is probably warranted, but the parent article should retain a summary with the hatnote, instead of a blank section with a hatnote. Most readers will go to the parent article first and removing all the information does them a disservice and looks awful. Please develop a one or two paragraph summary of what the timeline discusses with full citations, then place it in 2010 Haiti earthquake with a hatnote directing readers to the main article. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 18:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you acknowledge please that you are working on citing the summary you placed in the parent article? Otherwise, I will revert back to the cited section. An uncited section is as bad as a blank section. --Moni3 (talk) 18:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Closure of Sango Wikipedia

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Kely Bastien

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Edit summary

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Seriously, Toussaint. Please use an edit summary. Swarm^Talk 23:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:2010 Haiti earthquake

Hey, perhaps you could chime in at Template talk:2010 Haiti earthquake#A huge collection of unrelated stuff about the scope of this template. Grsz¹¹ 02:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Templates, default closed setting

Hi Toussaint, I would like to have templates like this one: Template:Namakwa District Municipality to be default closed, like this one: Template:Pixley ka Seme District Municipality but don't know how to do it. What is the code that does this? Just thought that the auxiliary info contained in them need not be displayed explicitly in the articles. JMK (talk) 09:40, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Troy Duffy

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Proposed deletion of United Liberal Associations

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The google hits that I found didn't show significant coverage. Also, all of the sources in the Dutch article is just links to the official sites of the companies that are part of the organization. Joe Chill (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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