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Burning Black Pt2

Good Morning.

I've tried to create the page Burning_black many times, respecting all the rules about creation, management etc. but every time appears to me the deletion of an admin that says to me "Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject". I've used as a template, the wikipedia page of many other band that are perfectly online and i don't know why my page has this kind of problem. Furthermore, my page now is blocked, so i can't edit it anymore. What should i do now? For the band is really important to get the wiki page.

Thank you in advance for your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericantonello1983 (talk • contribs) 12:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I've answered your question, above. Was there something more you wanted to know? TNXMan 12:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About deletion of article StNotepad Touch

Hi

Thanks for your immidiate reply, what about the article written FamousWhy by their editors http://articles.famouswhy.com/stnotepad__the_future_of_text_editors/ ?

Thanks and Regards, Rodriguezjuanjose52 (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

It's a possible start, but it's really not enough to support an article. TNXMan 16:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

User_talk:206.82.20.254

Recommend permanent ban, vandalism has consistently reappeared upon expiry of previous bans. Ng.j (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but IPs are not permanently banned (per this page). I have blocked them for a year, however. TNXMan 16:45, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

About deletion of article StNotepad Touch

Hi,

Sorry for disturbing you again. I just found a french website which has discussed about StNotepad Touch. I hope this is a reliable source.

French link:- http://www.blogeee.net/2010/12/repenser-les-raccourcis-sur-les-interfaces-tactiles/

Translated link:- http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogeee.net%2F2010%2F12%2Frepenser-les-raccourcis-sur-les-interfaces-tactiles%2F

If this is not reliable, I will not disturb you until I found a best source.

Thanks and Regards, Rodriguezjuanjose52 (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Doubtful: first it's a blog; second it does not provide significant coverage as required for notability. – ukexpat (talk) 18:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi TnXMan and ukexpat,

Please consider the source in the above page, http://www.karizmatic.fr/des-gestes-multitouch-pour-aller-plus-vite/ http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.karizmatic.fr%2Fdes-gestes-multitouch-pour-aller-plus-vite%2F

Thanks and Regards, Rodriguezjuanjose52 (talk) 18:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I admire your tenacity but same problem, it's a blog and, generally speaking, blogs are not not reliable sources. I think you may just have to accept that the subject is not (yet) notable, but that doesn't mean that it may not be some time in the future. – ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Insert barnstar here

Now how do I give you a barnstar? lol Thank you for your help. I used to be a lot better at this Wikipedia thing. --Endlessdan (talk) 16:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem. That's exactly what the help desk is for! TNXMan 16:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays!

Dear Tnxman307, Best wishes to you and your family this holiday season, whether you are celebrating Christmas or a different holiday. It's a special time of the year for almost everyone, and there's always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! ;) Love, --Meaghan [talk] ≈ 15:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

I see you were once involved in the SP investigation for User:Tony254trill, now I believe they have returned in the form of User:Natalie Bakerfield. Could you check this out? Candyo32 - Merry CHRISTmas :) 15:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I can, but the best way to follow up on this is to file a SPI case. This will keep everything in one place and make it easier to track in the future. If you need assistance in filing a new case, just let me know! TNXMan 15:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Tungsten x2

Hey. Guess I was a bit too bold in merging those cases together. Should I split them back apart? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 18:52, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Probably a good idea. It's just a returning troll, so we can put this to bed without much fuss. TNXMan 18:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

So done. Self fail. :/ — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 18:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

YouMeBot

Still scratching my head over this one. Was going to block today myself if a more straightforward answer was not forthcoming. What would a "read-only" bot even need an account for if it was, as they claimed, never going to edit a page? Something just doesn't add up there... Beeblebrox (talk) 21:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

...which is exactly why I blocked it. :) TNXMan 21:53, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Random interjection: Bot flags are good for getting larger amounts of results back from the server per request and there have been BRFAs approved for such reasons when the proposed tasks were infeasible to run offline. Of course, blocking a read-only bot would have no effect on it so there's no harm done even if it was legit. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Huh. Well that answers that part of it. I don't really know anything about the details of how bots operate. The remaining question would be why they wouldn't declare an "owner," but I suspect we will just have to let that go. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. Something fishy is/was going on. However, if they are legit, I'm sure an explanation will be forthcoming. TNXMan 12:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again :-)

• For this. Best wishes for Christmas and have a fantastic new year. Sincerely. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 14:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem and same to you! TNXMan 15:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Hotel de Crillon

Next time why do what your supposed to and contribute. Remember what good faith is? I am only trying to improve articles by adding information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.207.246 (talk) 16:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I never said you weren't. However, information that is added needs to be sourced - otherwise it appears to be original research. TNXMan 17:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Disciple (Christianity)

Please note that what I am adding to Disciple (Christianity) is sourced and referenced. Alan347 (talk) 15:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not. You're adding original research and evangelizing besides. What part of "by giving a litany of shocking comparisons between various, apparent socio-political and socio-economic realities versus the meaning of being his disciple." is sourced and not original research? Continuing to add this material is not a good idea. TNXMan 15:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Count your reverts, Tnx.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I've stopped (and thanks for the headsup). In fact, I've removed the page from my watchlist. TNXMan 20:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Christmas Card

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Merry Christmas At this festive time, I would like to say a very special thank you to my fellow editors, and take the time to wish you and your loved ones a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year. And, in case you can't wait until the big day, I've left you each three special presents, click to unwrap :) Acather96 (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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Declining unblock of user 2D3D

Hey, I see you just declined USER:2D3D's request for unblock. I'm not sure if you noticed that the user attempted to deal with the sockpuppetry and legal threat issue in a message below the unblock request here (though you might want to look at the final version for better formatting). Not saying the editor should be unblocked; I just want to make sure they're being heard. Thanks. SQGibbon (talk) 21:24, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Haynesworth's Fame

A mention in The Onion is not trivial but is considered a significant measurement of fame. In addition, you deleted only part of what had been added, creating an incomplete sentence, which makes it appear that you weren't really reading and editing, just reacting. Please use caution when making your edits, Tnxman307! Dutchmonkey9000 (talk) 21:30, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

JEL:Q

The related deletion discussion has now ended in Rename, which is what I was doing with JEL:Q. Could you recreate it, please. Thanks in advance.JQ (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Screaminsista

Considering that the CU was run on User:Screaminsista when it was thought to be a DavidYork71 sock, would it be advisable to run another one now that Otto4711 is thought to be the sockmaster, just to see if there are other socks? Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Blocks

I am writing on behalf of students from a Singapore institution. We had been trying to create wikipedia accounts. Unfortunately, our IP has been range blocked by you.

The reason given was "checkuserblock".

Many of our students are active contributors to Wikipedia, and we feel that indiscriminate IP block serves to punish innocent users altogether with users who commit vandalism.

Furthermore, we suggest that when you block users or IP you should give real reasons, citing instances of vandalism (i.e., giving examples of articles being previously vandalized), rather than just writing a vague line of "checkuserblock", or "this IP has been violating Wikipedia policy." Please do point out which policy the users have violated, rather than just giving a link directing us to a page with long list of Wikipedia policy.

Otherwise, how can we be sure that Wikipedia remains open, not subject to indiscriminate blocking, unjudicial use of administrators' powers, and protected against censorship hiding behind the line "violating Wikipedia policy"? How can we trust that information in Wikipedia is not politically biased, when unindentified administrators can block users and IP addresses from editing, without giving real, specific reasons? Most importantly, how can we trust you that you are not abusing your priviledges as an administrator?

Thank you for your attention.

Regards,

TCL

The above was posted by a user named "Tnxsux" who I have blocked for the username only. I have no way of telling if this is a legitimate new user or actually the person you're trying to keep out. —Soap— 12:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the block. I have no idea who they are unless they would like post an actual unblock template. TNXMan 03:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

A Query

Hi fellow editor, I tried to do a WP:Sockpuppet investigation here and it has been deleted. Does this mean, that it will not be followed up? Thanks --Sikh-History 10:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

No, it was just moved to here. When you file the reports, you do not have to put the "User:" prefix in front of the username. TNXMan 12:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanx for the heads up. You'd think after all these years I'd know how to do the basic ehh!! :) Thanks again --Sikh-History 14:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Biography question

Small89fryy (talk) 21:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC) Is this an appropriate page for a biography? I don't believe it is promoting anything, I am just trying to create a biography so people know who he is.

Selim A. Bassoul is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Middleby Corporation, commercial foodservice and cooking equipment. One out of three restaurants around the world use Middleby products in their kitchens.

Under the leadership of Mr. Bassoul, The Middleby Corporation is recognized as one of the best-performing public companies in the world. It has been named a “Best Small Company” by Forbes, one of Fortune Magazine’s “Fastest Growing Companies” and earned a spot for the past five years on the Business Week “Hot Growth Companies” list.

Middleby has made nearly twenty successful acquisitions around the world during the past five years. Middleby is a provider of restaurant cooking equipment in China, India and Latin America with manufacturing in Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, China, Philippines and Canada. U.S. manufacturing facilities are in Illinois, New Hampshire, Vermont, North Carolina, Texas, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Michigan, California, Missouri.

Mr. Bassoul joined The Middleby Corporation in 1996 as President of the company’s Southbend division. He became Chief Operating Officer in 1999 and was named Chief Executive in 2000 and Chairman of the Board in 2004. Prior to joining Middleby, Mr. Bassoul held senior positions with Premark, Inc., a unit of Illinois Tool Works. Before entering the foodservice industry, Mr. Bassoul worked in healthcare for American Hospital Supply and Baxter Healthcare in various positions including mergers and acquisitions, corporate planning and regional director in the Middle East and Africa. He also was the Managing Director of Baxter in China. Mr. Bassoul started his career at Ernst & Young in the Middle East.

Mr. Bassoul takes pride in his philanthropic endeavors. He and his wife have contributed to many U.S. culinary institutes as well as Clearbook and The Little City Foundation. They have created a foundation to assist single mothers in the Middle East and they helped build the emergency medical center of Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem.

Mr. Bassoul is on the Board of Directors of the Chicago Urban League and the Board of Trustees of the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. He serves on the Dean’s Council of the Kellogg Northwestern School of Management and the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy and the NYU Steinhardt School of Communications. Currently, he serves on the Board of Directors of Confluence Watermark, Pan Am Flight Academy and the Clipper Corporation.

Mr. Bassoul has been featured on The PBS Nightly Business Report, CNBC and Bloomberg News. He has been profiled in Forbes, Fortune, Barron's, Business Week, Investor's Business Daily, Crain's Chicago Business and The Chicago Tribune. The Middleby story and Mr. Bassoul's results-oriented management style has been used as a case study in several top business books, most recently Mastering the Essentials of High-Growth Companies (2010) by bestselling author David G. Thomson and at the Harvard Business school.

Mr. Bassoul has been awarded the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award and the Young President’s Organization (YPO) International Legacy Award. He is a member of the Chicago area Entrepreneurship Hall of Fame. He has been both a national and world judge for the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award.

A native of Lebanon, Mr. Bassoul moved to the United States to continue his postgraduate education at the Northwestern University Kellogg School of Management where he earned his M.B.A. in finance and marketing and a certificate in accounting. Before coming to the U.S., Mr. Bassoul attended the American University of Beirut where he received a B.A. in Business Administration with Distinction and was the recipient of the David Dodge Scholar Award.

Small89fryy (talk) 21:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)Please let me know! Thanks!

Take a look at WP:BIO and WP:SPAM. Do you have reliable sources to demonstrate that Bassoul is notable as described in those guidelines? If you do, then I suggest that you use the article creation wizard to create a draft in your userspace, then make a request at Requests for feedback for the community to review it. – ukexpat (talk) 22:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI, the article has been recreated: Selim Bassoul. Active Banana (^bananaphone 22:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Reads like a small fry trying very hard to appear to be a big fish by having a page on Wikipedia. Scribblescribblescribble (talk) 23:34, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Chalmers Goodlin

Hello Tnxman307. I created the account for Burnelli1 in ACC. H/She came to me with a question about your reverts at Chalmers Goodlin the user is not understanding why their edits are being reverted, I'm hoping you can take a moment and explain your reverts on their talk. Thank you very much. Mlpearc powwow 23:25, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ECW500

Hey. Just as a heads up, Smiles the Clown isn't a registered account. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 03:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization will surely be the death of me. TNXMan 03:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/July6177/Archive

Hi, could you please have a look at: Gloriousmerry (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) I have globally blacklisted the nobleherb.com and 2 other links. This user created an article with this link some 8 hours ago and is likely a sockpuppet. Thank you! EdBever (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Blocked and tagged. Thanks! TNXMan 12:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Corporate Air (Australia)

Good morning, I notice that you ahve deleted the page I setup for Corporate Air (Australia). This page is related to the company I work for but have no owenership of. I can see not difference between this page and similar pages such as - Qantas Airlines Qantas - Virgin Blue Virgin Blue - Brindabella Airlines Brindabella Airlines - Qantas Link Qantas link They are all basically advertising their company. Please re-instate this site or remove all the above sites plus any other airline. Regards Rob Boyes Gullboy12--Gullboy12 (talk) 22:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Before you make demands like that, please read WP:COI and WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 23:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

As Ukexpat correctly points out, you should read the two entries above. You may also want to review our information on what makes a company notable enough to warrant an article, as well as our guide to writing your first article. TNXMan 12:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Gents, I have read both artilces and I am still at a loss to see why the site mentioned above are acceptable and the Corporate Air page is not, they are all basically advertising there company like 99% of all company pages on Wikipedia are. What you define as notable I consider as advertising or trash and vise versa. Please re-instate the page. Thanks Gullboy12--Gullboy12 (talk) 23:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

If you want further discussion please take it to Deletion review. – ukexpat (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ryan kirkpatrick

Hey. Just for clarification, could you say whether or not the accounts you found today were connected to Ben Gill (talk · contribs) or F500 (talk · contribs)? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:16, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

They appear to be  Unrelated to each other - separate continents. TNXMan 15:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm.. and there's no proxying here? Strange.. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

That's what I thought, but both sets of accounts seem to be using normal ISPs. There were no red flags for proxies. TNXMan 15:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Proxies? or meatpuppet vandalism?

There's been a nasty spate of vandalism over at Scrooge McDuck, with piles of UK addresses hitting the article. They are all different networks, and span different countries within the UK, so I haven't blocked anyone, as they all appear dynamic. Could you take a quick peek and see if there's anything to lead you to believe it's one user using open proxies? If so, I'll go ahead and block the IPs as open proxies.

• Special:Contributions/86.23.81.175
• Special:Contributions/86.42.11.40
• Special:Contributions/92.39.196.187
• Special:Contributions/90.210.88.235
• Special:Contributions/90.214.241.168

—Kww(talk) 17:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I can do some investigation on this, but I can't do a thorough one from where I am. I'll definitely get back to you later this evening. TNXMan 19:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Ping.—Kww(talk) 15:24, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yikes! I'm sorry this is taking so long. I'll try and look at it today. TNXMan 15:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

No major problem. Note that I corrected the article name above, it was Scrooge McDuck, not "Uncle Scrooge".—Kww(talk) 15:33, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

After looking at these, they do not appear to be proxies. The computers used are different and most of the IPs appear dynamic. TNXMan 14:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Must have been a group of friends vandalizing for entertainment.—Kww(talk) 16:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ptss1gard

Apologies for harassing you yet again. On there, did you happen to check Zyzzyballuba? The account isn't stale just yet, I don't think. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 16:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Updated. Thanks for catching that! TNXMan 16:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Another Access Denied

Just blocked Access Denied VI (talk · contribs). The SPI is marked as close, so I wasn't quite sure whether to register this one. Favonian (talk) 21:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Also nipped Access Denied VII (talk · contribs) in the bud. Favonian (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The SPI was reopened, so I just added them. Apparently, he's jumping all over the map and CheckUser is of little use, so it doesn't really matter. Favonian (talk) 09:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I got here late, but it looks like the case has been closed. If more socks do appear, let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. TNXMan 14:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Parth Vaidya Page

Sir,

Recently the Office of Parth Vaidya, India, created an article on the National Environment Award Gold Medalist H'ble Parth Vaidya. Unfortunately it was deleted by you. Vaidya Sir has been working in the social field of Environment Conservation since many years & has received 3 International, 5 National Govt Awards for the same. The details of the same had been included in the article. The proofs of these could be provided upon request.

Kindly note that the page hasn't been created for Advertising/Promotion. It is an Inspirational Article & aims to ignite the feeling of Environment Conservation among the youth.

Wikipedia is expected to think over this novel topic & act as per.

Office of Parth Vaidya National Environment Award Gold Medal 2010 Indore INDIA 452001 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaidyaparth (talk • contribs) 05:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the article you submitted was an advertisement. I would encourage you to review our guide to neutral writing as well as our guide to writing your first article. You should continue to improve the sandbox draft you've already started. TNXMan 14:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Help at WP:UAA - thank you!

Hi, Tnxman307. Thank you for addressing my mistaken UAA report. I've learned a lesson from this. Much appreciated! --Shirt58 (talk) 09:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem. If you haven't seen it already, you may want to look at the username policy. I can also answer any questions you have. Cheers! TNXMan 14:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Parth Vaidya PAGE

Thanks for the info.

Our editorial department would be handling the case & work as per in the creation of a new 'Neutral' article.

We would be pasting a copy of the same on your page, to get the approval first from you.

Thanks,

Office of Parth Vaidya National Environment Award Gold Medalist 2010 INDORE452001 INDIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaidyaparth (talk • contribs) 14:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

a sock of User:Abisharan

Hi Tnxman307, I am very sure here's yet another sock of User:Abisharan User:Onepurposeoneedit.Please notice the name "One purpose one edit" I do not believe it will be back, but I believe there might be more socks of that user. I left the message at Tim's page, but I believe he's taking a break. Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It looks like Alison has already investigated this account. Sorry I missed your message, but if more things come up, please let me know. TNXMan 13:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Possible source of Freedom5000 socks

I just blocked what looks like yet another sock of User:Freedom5000, enjoying themselves at Talk:September 11 attacks. This caused 76.68.55.226 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), which has previously been blocked for vandalizing the same page, to become auto-blocked. Would it be possible to hard-block that IP for a longer period of time? Favonian (talk) 17:06, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't officially comment on any connection to IPs, but I have investigated and blocked several more accounts. Thanks for catching this! TNXMan 17:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I understand the policy. Very impressive list of imaginative user names ;) Favonian (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Symphony - Cultural Festival (KJSCE)

You put a PROD on Symphony - Cultural Festival (KJSCE), and I deleted it. I have now had a belated challenge to the PROD on my talk page, so I have restored it. You may like to take it to AfD. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! TNXMan 17:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Indextookviewsgoals

Thanks for your help there. --John (talk) 06:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem! TNXMan 12:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

What is a non notable mention?

Hi,

You reverted an edit I made to the entry for Phil Theis, with the comment "non notable mention." Could you please explain what this means and why you reverted my changes?

Sunkast (talk) 06:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)Sunkast

Guysfromqueens is not a notable website (that is, it does not have a Wikipedia article) and shouldn't be listed in other articles until it has its own. TNXMan 12:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

DJ Fly speedy deletion

Why did you delete this page? It is legitimate...what guidelines did it not follow? Jflynt1 (talk) 17:24, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the page did not indicate why the person was notable enough to warrant an article. I would suggest reading our guide to your first article and writing a draft in your userspace so you work on improving it. TNXMan 17:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I was pretty certain that it was clear why it was notable. I mentioned the influence by successful artists and included the current standing at fourth on the ReverbNation charts for Indiana. Does this not constitute as notable? Jflynt1 (talk) 17:28, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it doesn't. Notability on Wikipedia is a different concept than the dictionary definition. In order to be notable enough to have an article, the person must have received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. TNXMan 17:32, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Well are the references and external links that I provided on the page not coverage from independent reliable sources? They are certainly reliable websites, and DJ Fly received coverage on them. Jflynt1 (talk) 18:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

All I see for external websites is links to facebook, wix.com, and Reverbnation, and all of the pages on those websites were written for or by him. So, basically, there's no external coverage at all and therefore DJ Fly is not Wikipedia-notable. —Soap— 18:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Fawnwood

what was wrong with my page? Fawnwood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brannonharper (talk • contribs) 20:02, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

what was wrong with my page!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brannonharper (talk • contribs) 20:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

The page did not indicate why the group was notable enough to warrant an article. I would suggest reading our guide to writing your first article. TNXMan 20:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

clearify on what you mean by "notable" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brannonharper (talk • contribs) 20:14, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

That's covered under WP:BAND. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Notable on Wikipedia means the group has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources (which excludes self-published sources like blogs, Facebook accounts, Twitter posts, etc.). TNXMan 20:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

we have alot of fans tho — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brannonharper (talk • contribs) 20:24, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

That's a great start. TNXMan 20:28, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

A question/Guidance

Hello there; I am Ani MSc student of computer science. Since my supervisor wanted us t o create a Wikipedia page, I have started a topic under name of ISLAB(Intelligence Systems Laboratory). And you deleted it by the criteria named "A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content))" and "‎ (A7 (web): Web content; doesn't indicate importance/significance)"... The content of page was referring to a brief introduction for this laboratory as it is directly by permission of my supervisor so we didn't have any copyright issues as well, but you had deleted it neither because of copyright access problem and/or the content type. Now I have a question Is creating this kind of pages really unimportance according to Wikipedia terms or did I missed something like reference or etc. for this purpose?

Thanks for your considerations — Preceding unsigned comment added by Animgr (talk • contribs) 09:45, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just passing by: the page Wikipedia:Starting an article has some useful tips. In general, an article, even in its early stages, needs to indicate why the subject is notable (per Wikipedia:Notability), hopefully with some secondary references to reliable sources (that is, independent publications that discuss the subject at some length and in some depth). If a lab, for instance, is famous for doing a particular kind of analysis really well, that should constitute a claim to notability. Since I am not an administrator I cannot see the content of the article you proposed so I can't comment on content, but looking at the website I don't really see how notability by our standards can be established, and this Google search doesn't offer much help either. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 17:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)