User talk:Tim riley/Archive40

Advice please

Afternoon Riley, hope all well your end. I would be grateful if you'd cast your eye over the below. I've read it and reread it and although I can't pinpoint why, it doesn't feel like it works. Any suggestions? KJP1 (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

The historian Malcolm Airs, in his study, The Tudor and Jacobean Country House: A Building History, considers the replacement of the private castle by the country house as "the seat of power and the centre of hospitality was one of the great achievements of the Tudor age".

It doesn't quite work, I agree. I think the sentence is grammatically OK, but the verb in the direct quote seems unhappy and fighting to get out. If you split the quote in two and take the "was" out of the direct speech it will work all right, I think: ...considers the replacement of the private castle by the country house as "the seat of power and the centre of hospitality" to be "one of the great achievements of the Tudor age" or ...considers that the replacement of the private castle by the country house as "the seat of power and the centre of hospitality" was "one of the great achievements of the Tudor age" Tim riley talk 14:42, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you. Though this is a touch unnerving for one who flies the white flag at all times, and who, if pressed into battle would emulate the Duke of Plaza Toro – "No soldier in that gallant band/ Hid half as well as he did". Tim riley talk 14:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

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Jane Grigson

Jane Grigson's vegetable heroes and villains: clockwise from top left artichoke, asparagus, swede and kale

To anyone kind enough to watch this page: SchroCat and I have been working on the Jane Grigson article and now have it up for peer review, where comments will be gladly received. Tim riley talk 10:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you fo the article about "more disgraceful goings-on", "Jacques Offenbach's first full-length comic opera, and caused something of a scandal because of its cheeky satire of the Second French Empire and the Graeco-Roman classics. But the music and zany plot carry all before them, and the opera is still produced here, there and everywhere."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Keswick, Cumbria scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Keswick, Cumbria has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 10 August 2019. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 10, 2019. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 15:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Ealdgyth. I'll make sure it's scrubbed and in its Sunday best before 10th prox. Tim riley talk 16:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your part of "a small town, known as the capital of the English Lake District. Its history goes back more than 700 years, and its literary associations are remarkable, from the Lake Poets to Hugh Walpole"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Btw, what do you think of this 2018 comment? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello! Sorry for bothering.
I've noticed your name in the list of the WP:FAC mentors. Recently, I have released a new article about Indonesian home gardens and I hope that it would be satisfactory to the standards of a featured article. However, I'm afraid that I've made major errors that I haven't noticed yet. If you have any time to give any advice or constructive criticism, comments in its peer review page would be appreciated. Thank you in advance! Dhio-270599 17:21, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

To TR and any TPSs

What ho! If you're looking for an article to review, can I recommend Eddie Gerard? It's a nice little article I opposed first time round, but it's been given an excellent going over and is about where it should be. It's sadly lacking in reviews, and I'd rather it didn't fall off the end for lack of attention. Pip pip - SchroCat (talk) 10:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I'm reluctant to review myself as hockey is a topic on which I know absolutely nothing so I'm unlikely to have anything useful to say, but you might want to poke The Rambling Man on this one. He can be an acquired taste, but I think even his harshest critics would concede that he has a real talent for spotting issues and inconsistencies on sporting articles. ‑ Iridescent 10:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Excellent idea, Iri, and thanks for the reminder. TRM has an excellent eye and he's amenable then it would be great to see him chip in too. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 10:48, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Acquired taste, yeah I suppose general overall excellence and being "out and proud" of it must be hard for some to stomach.....! I'll add it to my review list. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

TRM, I believe Gerda's link to Mozart on your talk page tonight is also an acquired taste? Cassianto^Talk 22:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

John Gielgud

Sorry, I deleted commas which were not grammatically correct. Regards Denisarona (talk) 12:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I can't imagine where you picked up that notion. See Fowler, Gowers or other authoritative British style guide. This looks suspiciously like one of the superstitions propagated by teachers of AmE. Tim riley talk 13:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I actually used as reference Section 476 of Practical English Usage, published by Oxford University Press. Regards Denisarona (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Are we at cross purposes? I haven't got the latest edition of Swan, but in the third edition he says "clauses connected with and, but or or are usually separated by commas unless they are very short". Isn't that what we are talking about? Am I stupidly missing something important? Tim riley talk 15:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire/archive1

Dear Tim,

I wonder if you might have the time to do a Source Review for the above? It's currently up for FLC, but needs an SR. I don't think it would be too burdensome, the limited number of books used have been used many times before, and the vast majority of cites are to the relevant Cadw pages using the template. If you had the opportunity, I'd be most grateful. Obviously, if you've anything up for FA at present, I'd be pleased to reciprocate but I'm not sure you have. KJP1 (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

KJ, I'll do it this very day (I hadn't associated you with featured lists) and I'll enjoy contributing. If you are susceptible to moral blackmail you may feel moved to critique Jane Grigson which SchroCat and I have at PR at the moment. Tim riley talk 15:22, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

No, it’s my first. But it combines Monmouthshire and buildings, two of my passions. Getting the photos for the Grade II*s has been a very pleasurable treasure hunt! And Grigson is a very fair swap. I’ve done the church where she’s buried as a start, but will try to find something useful to say at PR. KJP1 (talk) 18:46, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hector Berlioz

Nobody seems to have noticed the two totally useless ofs and the that where a which should be. Having ced (without explanation) dozens of other FA's without objection, I don't understand your concern re Hector. Please advise.--Brogo13 (talk) 13:23, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Your changes to other FAs may be improvements for all I know. Those here are not. You are quite wrong about "which" and "that" (see Fowler) and the change of "seeing" to "see" turned good English into bad. Kind regards. Tim riley talk 15:02, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Disraeli

Hi, I've started a discussion about my edits on the talk page. Please look at the references, I didn't actually add anything that wasn't already referenced. The problem is, whoever wrote it clearly didn't understand about different Jewish ethnicities (I do, being a Jew).

They originally wrote, "The family was mainly of Sephardic Jewish Italian mercantile background" - Yes and no. He did have a lot of Sephardic background, but what is "Sephardic Jewish Italian"?

Now, when we look at the references, we see it's not so simple. His mother was a descendant of the Rothschilds and of the Ashkenazi Basevi family (yes, Italy has Ashkenazi Jews too - hold it, getting there). So there we go, he has a substantial representation of Ashkenazi origin on his mother's side.

But wait, there are three groups of Jews in Italy, the biggest being (in the past) Sepchardic, but smaller ones being Ashkenazi and Italkim. Now, the Italkim ones are actually neither Ashkenazi nor Sephardic, and Rieti was just that.

At this point, it's important for me to note that none of it is original research, but rather information from the references already given.

As for the rest of his origin, yes, it was Sephardic.

Now, do you see what my edits did? I didn't add anything new, I only made better use of the references given in order to give a better representation of what it said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxim.il89 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Not true, I'm afraid. You musn't attribute to already cited sources something they didn't say. Tim riley talk 20:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

But it does, here it is: "Disraeli's mother's ancestors included Isaac Aboab, the last Gaon of Castille, the Cardoso family (among whose members were Isaac Cardoso and Miguel Cardoso), the Rothschilds, and other prominent families; Disraeli was described in The Times as having "some of the best blood in Jewry".

You can find it under 7 Wolf, Lucien. "The Disraeli Family", The Times, 21 December 1904, p. 12 in references, or 1-3 sources in the notes. Sometimes you need to point at the reference at the end of a note for more information.

Have a thorough look at the references.

I have the Wolf Times article in front of me. There is no mention of Rothschilds and Cardoso. Tim riley talk 21:49, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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