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Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Administrator changes

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Alvestrand • Black Falcon • Deathphoenix • Dppowell • Mark Arsten • JGHowes (deceased)

Oversighter changes

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Mkdw

Interface administrator changes

Galobtter

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
• Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.

Technical news

• DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.

Arbitration

• A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
• Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
• The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

• Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
• The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:05, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Wehda Street airstrikes RFC

Thanks for the close. Following the close, the RFC opener has reverted the article to what he says in his edit summary is 'the "last stable version" per no consensus RfC.' and deleting all reference to an altname thereby, which strikes me as incorrect. Any chance you could establish or comment on what the "last stable version" is in your view? Thanks.Selfstudier (talk) 21:43, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

@Selfstudier: Commented at Talk:Wehda Street airstrikes. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 02:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 October. It will be on all wikis from 7 October (calendar).
• Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The hidden property will no longer say an entry is implicit for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the value false for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response. [1]
• A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for all production wikis. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can let the developers know.

Future changes

• You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the iOS Wikipedia app. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions. [2]
• The JavaScript variables wgExtraSignatureNamespaces, wgLegalTitleChars, and wgIllegalFileChars will soon be removed from mw.config. These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript. [3]
• The JavaScript variables wgCookiePrefix, wgCookieDomain, wgCookiePath, and wgCookieExpiration will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead use mw.cookie from the "mediawiki.cookie" module. [4]

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16:29, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Stones collaboration

Hey again! I wanted to ask you what you're next project would be after "Tumbling Dice"? If you're interested in a collaboration that's Stones-related, I do have one idea... – zmbro _(talk) 15:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zmbro: I want to eventually get Charlie Watts up to GA and FA, but that is probably a longer term goal at this point/far from near there…’’Some Girls’’ sounds good in the interim! TheSandDoctor testing (talk) 17:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor testing, I got you. It'd be nice to get all members of the Stones to GA/FA, like that other British band. Hopefully in the long term. With Some Girls, I mainly need assistance with the sections above release. I acquired the SG 33&1/3 book which proved helpful but I know the article can grow a lot. I also have a few other Stones books including Richards' autobiography which I know can help out. Let me know when/if you wanna collaborate. – zmbro _(talk) 17:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zmbro: Let’s pool resources and do this! I’m game to start work on it. Also no need to ping this account as I still see TSD emails/TP messages, the mobile app just logged me out and haven’t bothered to deal with 2FA yet for that one. Wanted to reply faster than 8-10 hours so resurrected this account haha. TheSandDoctor testing (talk) 17:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Haha you got it. I'm good to start whenever. I still have a ways to go with my current project but I'll gladly continue work on SG. :-) – zmbro _(talk) 18:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zmbro: When do you want to buckle down on this? Are you planning to take Station to Station to FA? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:07, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't matter to me. I'm doing Low first then Station to Station (gonna make sure that's copy-edited first). I'd say the majority of the back half (release-legacy) of Some Girls is finished. Really I'd like to see some better background, recording, and music/lyrics section. I can obviously still assist but I'm going to primarily be doing Sts individual tracks. What do you think? – zmbro _(talk) 12:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Red (Taylor Swift album)

Hi TheSandDoctor, I've noted an uncited direct quotation in the second paragraph of "Impact and legacy" ("first documented, official pop album"); this should be directly cited per WP:MOS. Other wise I think it's looking better now. Good luck with your planned FAC nom. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:15, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

For historical reference in archives, I replied here because there is a note on Baffle's page at this time that they have pings disabled and, as such, wouldn't see it if I replied here. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:49, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Red

Hi, thanks for message, I'm happy to take a look, but I'm on Scilly at present s it will have to wait a few days until I'm back from my holiday Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:51, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Jimfbleak! Take your time —TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 15:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC) TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 15:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Slackjaw

A tag has been placed on Slackjaw requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 21:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@Stefan2: Thank you for catching that, I forgot to update it to point to Jim Knipfel when I was doing a history split. Corrected and tag removed. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Page-move redirect suppression

Hello TheSandDoctor! This is a courtesy notice that I reversed your suppression of a page-move redirect at List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom (before 1990) as it does not seem to have been a valid suppression, and also so that the stats tool would work on the page to inform the redirect discussion for the "before 2000" title you nominated. Just FYI, the valid rationales for suppressing a page-move redirect are listed at WP:PMRC, and that is generally considered to be a complete list. It functions similar to the criteria for speedy deletion - we have consensus to delete (or suppress) only when something definitely fits one of those criteria, otherwise we need to pursue deletion without the use of the tools (i.e. through discussion) just like everyone else. Personally I find it helpful if I'm suppressing to link to the specific criterion in the move's edit summary (e.g. "update for correctness (redirect suppressed per WP:PMRC#7)" if it had been recently created and obviously an error), but that's not strictly required. I added more comments to the RfD but I thought it would be better to leave housekeeping notes about admin stuff here. Cheers! Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 23:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ivanvector: You'd be correct there. Thanks for resolving and for the tips. The rationale at RfD now looks rather stupid, but oh well. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Realised I never thanked you for this barnstar - was a little emotional going through all the old ones 😥 ~TNT (she/her • talk) 11:55, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

@TheresNoTime: You're most welcome! I meant every word of it. Always around if you need someone to talk to (you know how to reach me). --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:31, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 October. It will be on all wikis from 14 October (calendar).

• The "auto-number headings" preference is being removed. You can read phab:T284921 for the reasons and discussion. This change was previously announced. A JavaScript snippet is available which can be used to create a Gadget on wikis that still want to support auto-numbering.

Meetings

• You can join a meeting about the Desktop Improvements. A demonstration version of the newest feature will be shown. The event will take place on Tuesday, 12 October at 16:00 UTC. See how to join.

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15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Resignee (05:09, 13 October 2021)

hello --Resignee (talk) 05:09, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Resignee: Hi Resignee! How may I help you? Do you have a question? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Officernino (15:51, 18 October 2021)

How do I change the sub user name? --Officernino (talk) 15:51, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

@Officernino: could you please clarify what you mean exactly? Where are you seeing this “sub user name”? Are you wanting to change your username from “Officernino” to something else or? TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 16:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Toolhub is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can read more.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 October. It will be on all wikis from 21 October (calendar).

Future changes

• The developers of the Wikipedia Android app are working on communication in the app. You can now answer questions in survey to help the development.
• 3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a proxy or a VPN. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a discussion about this on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
• Wikimedia Enterprise is a new API for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can read more. You can also ask the team questions on Zoom on 22 October 15:00 UTC.

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20:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

Wow @ Paint It Black, very cool to see... Piotr Jr. (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Piotr Jr.: Thank you! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 backlog drive

New Page Patrol | November 2021 Backlog Drive
On November 1, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Tech News: 2021-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Coolest Tool Award 2021 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 October. It will be on all wikis from 28 October (calendar).

Future changes

• Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax. [5]
• The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change. [6]

Meetings

• You can join a meeting about the Community Wishlist Survey. News about the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes will be shown. The event will take place on Wednesday, 27 October at 14:30 UTC. See how to join.

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20:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Shammah Joel on Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science/Participants (15:18, 31 October 2021)

Hello! I'm a fresh Mechanical Engineering student. I am just so curious on how things works...............interested in learning, python, Arduino programming, web development, cyber security, AI and how to develop mobile software; EVERYTHING! Which should I take as PRIORITY for now? Please I need your advise. --Shammah Joel (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

@Shammah Joel: You will most likely cover all of that in your degree, probably starting with Python. Python is a fun language and a good place to start, generally speaking. The others are probably more advanced topics in comparison. That said, this isn't really what the mentorship program here is for. It's mostly intended to help you learn how to edit Wikipedia and help with any policy understanding etc.; you can read more about it here. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)