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Its a pitty that you refuse to discuss the matter and continue to make sassy remarks. Of course you are correct that the 9. SS-Panzer and 10. SS-Panzer Divisions were involved in the Kamenets-Podolsky Pocket, I have mixed it up while looking through Frieser's work, even though he claims 55,000 diff. Please take my apology. Regards.Wildkatzen (talk) 11:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

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Hi! I recently edited the page on the Dnieper-Carpathian Offensive which you reverted. I wanted to discuss changes to the article with you on the Dnieper-Carpathian Offensive talk page as you appear to be the only person actively editing the page. Originalcola (talk) 22:52, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Actual German strength

Hey, Tai3chinirv7ana! How did you find this information: 06:35, 23 April 2022 diff hist +880‎ Battle of the Dnieper ‎ Added actual German strength for this battle straight from the archives. Do you have access to the archives? I would like to find information on the actual strength of each German army on the eastern front. I did not find information on the Internet.--Vaclaw1990 (talk) 04:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello Vaclaw1990,

I am a researcher into the German and Soviet archives, so I have tons of information about the German side with regards to their strength, losses, divisions and so on.

Are you interested in more of this? Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Tai3chinirv7ana! Yes, very interesting) The strength of the German armies on the EF. 1942-1944)Vaclaw1990 (talk) 07:57, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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Nikopol-Krivoy Rog offensive casualties

Hi, thanks for adding a more accurate German casualty figure to the article. Have you come upon any sources that give insight into Soviet losses during the battle? In researching back when I worked on the article I dug around a lot on Pamyat Naroda, but couldn't find any mention of casualties in the posted reports. ~~~~ Kges1901 (talk) 22:54, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi,

I did researching into the docs of the 3rd Ukrainian Front too, but haven't found a doc showing the front losses for February 1944. To add further, the same goes for March-April 1944. Starting from May 1944 is when the monthly losses are available.

I've been adding tons of data from both German and Soviet primary sources into the various articles, including the follow-up Soviet offensive after the Nikopol-Krivoy Rog Offensive, so the losses of the 3rd UF interested me.

The only thing that's available is Krivosheyev's book about Soviet losses, where the losses of the 3rd UF during the Dnieper-Carpathian Offensive (January-April 1944) are given. However, no breakdown is available as to the losses in February.

My reasonable estimate, based on monthly losses of other fronts and other docs, would be that the 3rd UF sustained around 60,000 casualties.

With regards to the losses of the A.O.K. 6 in February 1944, they are still incomplete. While the document I used provide a complete breakdown of losses for each army division and GHQ combat units, it also states that for the 62. and 123. Infanterie-Divisionen, 16. Panzergrenadier-Division and 97. Jäger-Division the losses are only for the first half of February (1-15), as it was impossible to compile exact losses for the second half of the month due to chaotic situation.

Both the 62. and 123. ID would be disbanded the following month due to heavy losses, the remnants of the 16. PGD will be sent to France (OB West) for rebuilding and reorganization into the 116. Panzer-Division, while the 97. JD will be badly depleted.

Finally, it doesn't include losses of various Flak units in the army area, which are under Luftwaffe subordination, nor does it include whatever Wehrmacht Gefolge (Reichsarbeitsdienst, OT, Nationalsozialistische Kraftfahrkorps, Deutsche Reichsbahn) personnel that were attached to the army.

So with that in mind, the overall losses of the 6th Army for February would be around 30,000. This goes in line with report of overall losses for Heeresgruppe A in February 1944. Its losses for February 1944 amounted to 40,000. A fraction of them can be attributed to the 17th Army cut off in Crimea, which had a quiet month. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 13:57, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi again,

I recently made important additions to the Nikopol-Krivoy Rog Offensive. Speaking of the follow-up offensives, specifically the April 1944 Odessa Offensive, there's still no page on wiki. Can you assist me in creating it- it can be a basic one, largely translation of Russian page on this.

I could do it myself, but I simply don't have enough time to do it. However, I do have a wealth of information on the German side (strength, losses, order of battle etc.) from primary sources, as well as Soviet, so I wanted to create this page. Plus, it already has enough photos, with the famous photo of tank riders on T-34 advancing near Razdelnaya station.

So simply a creation of the page, attaching it as a part of the Dnieper-Carpathian Offensive, providing basic info. Then I can fill it up with more details and such.

Since you've done lots of editing on the Eastern Front articles and Soviet side, perhaps you can assist me, by giving a kick-start to this article?

Regards Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 07:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Absolutely, I can write up a quick summary from Glantz's Red Storm in the Balkans, then enhance it with information from Russian sources. Kges1901 (talk) 10:09, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks. I've already started creating it. Will publish it soon. For the beginning it will be basic summary, together with military infobox. Based on that, we can continue to fill it up step by step, to make it a quality article. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 10:27, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Just did a quick write up in mainspace at Odessa Offensive. Kges1901 (talk) 11:28, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for that. I will add lots of data soon and improve upon what you wrote.

  Speaking about article creation, improvement etc., would you like to team up/cooperate with me on this? Like me, I can see that you've done lots of them on the war topics and I'm a researcher into the Soviet and German archives, so we can make plenty of improvements.

  The only thing with me, like I've said already, is that I don't have time to do long edits. So since I'm a researcher, I prefer to add various stats and facts, not to write entire articles- strength reports, losses, OOB, other reports. For example, in the Battle of the Dnieper article, the German strength (personnel, armoured, aircraft) is entirely my work.

  When it comes to the article improvement, the Dnieper-Carpathian offensive is my main interest. As you can see there, overwhelming majority of info there is added by me. One thing that I did not touch upon there, cause I didn't have time, is editing the brief, basic description of offensives there. Whoever made them 10-15 years ago clearly didn't know anything about the offensives.

  For example, in describing the Bereznegovatoye–Snigirevka offensive, nothing is described about it, instead, Kamenets-Podolsk Pocket is described. Similarly, in describing the Polesskoe offensive (several years ago I made an article about it), nothing is described about it, instead, Bereznegovatoye–Snigirevka offensive is described. So in this regard, the article is a mess. Not to mention that they all are extremely limited. Correcting the major mistakes of the past editors would be nice.

  Also, I have a question about uploading photos. I'm not a specialist here, but from what place (site etc.) would it be considered 'safe' to upload without all that copyright stuff? I can suggest some places from where to take them and if you know the procedures of uploading that would be great- all these articles would be far more attractive with them, supporting the main text.

  Regards Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 14:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I would definitely be able to cooperate, and I appreciate your research as it helps provide more information about the impacts of the battles of 1943-1944 on the German forces. I have long wanted to tackle the main battles of the Eastern Front like the Battle of the Dnieper, but the scale is too daunting for one person alone. I do find it more interesting to write about the history of less well-known operations like the Dnieper–Carpathian Offensive because there is so much information in English about the battles of 1941, Kursk, and Stalingrad but the campaigns of 1944 are more obscure. For photos, you need to prove publication in the relevant country based on the copyright laws of them. For example, in Russia the main source for photos is mil.ru (the official website of the Ministry of Defense) because files from there are licensed in a way that they can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons; and there's many World War II photos that have been posted on there recently. Otherwise it would have to comply with Russian copyright law. I'm not familiar with German copyright however. Kges1901 (talk) 15:13, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I fully agree with what you said, about the over-represented battles in literature vs the ones that are under-represented. For future discussions and cooperation, is there a way to contact you, beyond this? Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Yes, you can email me here. Kges1901 (talk) 18:16, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  Not sure what the problem is, but I cannot access the link you've added. At the top it says ''No send address'', while the message says that ''You must be logged in and have a valid authenticated email address in your preferences to send email to other users. Return to Main Page.'', even though I'm logged in and have email. What would be the issue? Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 18:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Your email might not be authenticated. I can't email you, might be because you don't have a user page. Kges1901 (talk) 19:20, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  That's probably because I don't have user page. I will try that later. Also, thanks for adding Soviet OOB on the Odessa Offensive page. Later I will add German OOB, with plenty of data on the low strength of German diivisions, their poor shape etc. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• I tried emailing you on my end and it says that you don't have "a valid email address" specified. Kges1901 (talk) 19:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  I doubled checked and yes, it wasn't confirmed. I also created my user page. Now its ok. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 20:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Thank you both for your hard work on these issues which this site is systemically biased against. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:27, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you Buckshot06, I appreciate it. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 04:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

• Tai3chinir7ana, what does your username refer to? A Russian word, but what? Also, feel free to pull in Wreck Smurfy, who is the other current active member of the Red Army editor's group named for Tukhachevsky(!!), he focuses on writing up rifle divisions, so do talk to him and see if you can transfer some of his already drafted prose including both Western, Glantz, Sharp, and Soviet sources sometimes; B.Velikov is amazing but focuses on more modern activities. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:15, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

  My username has nothing to do with Russian word(s). Its a combo of Chinese Tai chi philosophy and martial art, and Nirvana concept found in various Indian religions.

  I considered changing it, but didn't do it yet, So it stayed the same from the day I created my account here 6 or 7 years ago.

  Thanks for informing me about these editors. Tai3chinirv7ana (talk) 08:03, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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