Rwinibo

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mickaël Pariente (June 20)

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WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Rwinibo! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello to you, Thank you for your feedback.

I'm answering you because I don't have enough experience in publishing a page on Wikipedia, I have difficulty to really understand the modifications that I'm asked to make to facilitate the publication. Please explain me in a clear and precise way the actions to be done and also the sections or paragraph concerned so that I can make the necessary changes.

However the recent sources of my article are from Média électronique.

We have several dozens of press excerpts on paper that are not listed on the Internet, can we submit them in pdf format?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely, Rwinibo (talk) 07:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Moreover, only the books are presented by the site of the publishing house, same for the diploma which is verifiable on the site of the university (https://www.theses.fr/2006PA083781) all the rest are external links related to Mickaël Parienté or articles published in external media. Rwinibo (talk) 07:48, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

I will try to explain what is needed as clearly as possible. The current article is sourced mostly to things Pariente himself has written: his books (which he has self-published) and his editorial submissions to various publications. There is no evidence presented that others have written about Pariente -- reviews of his works, articles about him, etc. Independent sources are required to verify that Pariente merits inclusion at Wikipedia. The sources do not have to be available online. If you have a press clipping about Pariente, you need only cite the article name, the newspaper or magazine that it came from, and the date it was published. This would be sufficient information for other editors to visit the archives of those publications (either online or at a local or research library) to review the cited article and verify the cited information.

PS: If you reply to this comment, please use the {{reply}} template (such as {{reply|WikiDan61}} Text...) so that I will be notified of your reply. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@WikiDan61

@WikiDan61

Hello to you, thank you for your quick and clear answer,

1- Mickael Parienté is not a self-author, he publishes in the publishing house StavNet of which he is the manager but not the exclusive author.

2- Mickael Pariente has a paper press kit which contains more than a hundred articles about his work and his person. These articles can be submitted to you in pdf. Is it possible to introduce them and how?

As an example,

- Le Matin, a daily newspaper in Geneva, devoted a page to him on April 30, 1998.

- Archive de sciences sociales des religions 1997, Régine Azria gives a glowing review of the book 2000 title with a Jewish theme

- Tribune Juive, 09-01-1997, Hadassah AGHION entitled her review of the book 2000 titres à thème juif : Une œuvre de références.

- Revue des études Juives, January-June 2000, Professor Moshe Bar-Asher, President of the Academy of the Hebrew Language, gives an academic and honorable review.

- L'arche, N 497, July 1999, Helène Schoumann devotes a page entitled : Mickael Pariente, un israélien atypique.

3-Mickael Pariente also had 2 television programs, one in Israel and one in France. The links on the internet are mentioned in the Wikipedia article about him.

4-Mickael Pariente also has reviews of his works published by renowned authors and available on the internet and already mentioned in the Wikipedia article.

5- Nurit Govrin, professor and merit of the University of Tel Aviv who has been publishing for decades a book on the most remarkable books according to her research in the 6th volume of her work, she devoted 8 pages on the book Street of the big thatched house in Hebrew.

Hoping that this will be of interest to you

Rwinibo (talk) 10:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

If one founds a publishing house to publish one's own work, as well as the work of others, that's still self-publishing. As for the articles about Pariente, no, please do not upload PDFs of these, as that would be a copyright violation. However, you need only reference the articles. They don't need to be online. See Help:Citing sources for more information. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@WikiDan61

Thank you for your quick answer, as far as self-publishing is concerned, the company and the publication of others have been created for about forty years and the writings of parienté have only started for about ten years. He chose to publish in his own edition a book that was prefaced by Emmanuel Leroy Ladurie when he was president of the National Library of France.

Regarding the PDF of the articles I am studying the way to introduce them in the article Mickael Pariente according to the instructions of Wikipedia.

Sincerely yours, Rwinibo (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@WikiDan61

Let me add that the book Israel: Politics and Society - From Ben Gurion to Netanyahu has recently had 3 reviews published on the Net and are even referenced as others in the Wikipedia page of Michael Pariente. Rwinibo (talk) 15:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

In that case, I suggest that you limit his list of works to notable works: works that have been independently reviewed or cited by other authors. The article does not need to list every book, article or editorial he has written. It should not cite StavNet when listing his books, but rather just list them by ISBN or OCLC and let readers find them where they can (rather than through a website dedicated to selling the books). WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@WikiDan61

Hello to you,

I hope you are well.

I have followed your advice to improve the referencing of the notable books with their respective ISBN and to remove the superfluous works and articles (partially).

As a result, there are books that are in Hebrew that have a Danacode that acts as an ISBN in Israel. How do I list them and also check if the changes made can allow me to have my article validated?

I remain at your disposal for any additional comments

Yours sincerely Rwinibo (talk) 15:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@WikiDan61

Hello, are you there? Rwinibo (talk) 07:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I am, from time to time. As with the rest of Wikipedia editors, I do this in my spare time, when I can. There are other AFC reviewers; if I don't get to review your updates, someone else will soon enough. You'll get faster results if you resubmit your draft, which will mark it as awaiting review (as opposed to its current state of having been reviewed and declined). WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello to you,

I hope you are well.

Without wanting to disturb you or put pressure, I come back to you to know if the page Mickael Parienté that I proposed is still under review?

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Sincerely,

Rwinibo Rwinibo (talk) 13:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Mickaël Pariente

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)