User talk:Palindromesemordnilap/Archive 1

Archive 1

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MOT Charter School

Hi Palindromesemordnilap, can you please add {{Db-g7}} to Draft:MOT Charter School 2 to request author deletion — you had originally created this one in mainspace by copying the draft at Draft:MOT Charter School. This is now an unnecessary duplicate and the latter has your contribution history, has been improved and pending review. Thanks, Steven (Editor) (talk) 20:26, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Steven (Editor), thanks for reaching out to me. Yes, I just added {{Db-g7}} to Draft:MOT Charter School 2 to request author deletion. When I was working on this article, I somehow did not realize that drafts can just be moved to mainspace. Thank you for helping me correct that error.

I have a question about the article submission process. I have (and, at the time of submission, also had) permission to create articles in mainspace. Should I just move Draft:MOT Charter School to the mainspace, or is it best practice to submit an article for review even when I can create articles in mainspace? Thanks for your help! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 01:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome and thanks for requesting the deletion. Articles shouldn't be copied and pasted as this splits the page histories, instead the move button should be used which would keep everything together. As for drafts, it is best to follow the draft process so that it can be reviewed by another editor in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, who will then publish it to the mainspace if eligible, or decline it with the reasons why and what you would need to do next before resubmitting. I know it says it will take time until it's reviewed but it will be reviewed, sometimes they are done pretty quickly, it varies.

You're more than welcome to create articles directly in mainspace, just make sure when you do, they meet the general notability guideline, are written from a neutral point of view and sourced with reliable, independent sources. For schools, we have a school article guidelines which would be best to follow as this describes how the content of school articles should be organized, with the aim of providing general guidance to editors. Hope this helps, Steven (Editor) (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MOT Charter School (October 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rich Smith was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:MOT Charter School and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:MOT Charter School, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

- Rich^T|C|E-Mail 10:45, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Palindromesemordnilap! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! - RichT|C|E-Mail 10:45, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Many thanks for mentoring up and coming Wikimedians!

Nolabob (talk) 01:55, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MOT Charter School has been accepted

MOT Charter School, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Bkissin (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Change to Beau Biden

Hi! It should be Beau’s mother and his younger sister. It says “Biden’s mother”. Hope it helps!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.223.71 (talk) 23:12, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi 107.77.223.71, sure, I can make that change to clarify that the sentence is referring to Beau Biden's mother rather than to Joe Biden's mother. In the future, I'd recommend leaving a note on the talk page for Beau Biden (Talk:Beau Biden) to request the edit, or creating an account for yourself! Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 23:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Caleb Truax

Don't worry about it. The fight was just announced an hour ago. I was editing from my phone and I made a few errors on it anyways. CaPslOcksBroKEn (talk) 05:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, (Regarding You Again, Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore, So Undercover)

Hello there! Regarding You Again, Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore, So Undercover, and MOS:REPEATLINK and MOS:OVERLINK. Would linking Reno, Nevada, Kansas City or San Francisco be considered breaking the locations rule of MOS:OVERLINK? Sorry for asking you these questions, but I'm rather new to wikipedia and I would absolutely love to be able to contribute to it better. Also what would be things I should link? I found the part in the MOS:OVERLINK rather inconherent. Also, would you consider this something that could go on wikipedia?

After being fired for taking the blame for his co-pilot's incompetence, airline pilot Jim Clark (Richard Arlen) starts his own airline, Honeymoon Air, flying for weddings and divorces between Los Angeles and Las Vegas/Reno. He brings stewardess Shirley Brooks (Jean Parker) with him as a partner. Jim is in love with Shirley, but has not asked her yet because of all the work in starting the new business. Shirley mistakes this for a lack of interest. Tired of waiting, she becomes engaged to another pilot, Bob Fuller (Dick Purcell). Jim is upset and arranges for Bob to go to Hackensack, New Jersey, for a phoney job just to get him out of the way and prevent Shirley from marrying him.

Hi @2604:3d09:1f77:ce00:9429:732b:f067:d627:, welcome to Wikipedia! I would say that linking those cities could be fine (there's no hard and fast rule for what is/isn't overlinking). My personal rule for linking is that if I think, "I wish there had been a link there," then I add the link. In general, I'd say many articles are already well-linked, so perhaps err on the side of not linking, but if you find yourself wishing for the link, then add it.

If you check out your talk page, I made a little summary of (1) what overlinking is and (2) what duplicate and repeat links are. Here's the link to that message on your talk page: User talk:2604:3D09:1F77:CE00:9429:732B:F067:D627#Explanation of MOS:REPEATLINK and MOS:OVERLINK.

I also left a "Welcome" message on your talk page. I definitely encourage creating an account! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 07:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, @2604:3d09:1f77:ce00:9429:732b:f067:d627:, one other thing. I might recommend starting by adding content to pages, and then move into linking and grammar stuff once you have a good feel for what sorts of things are linked and what sort of style is used on Wikipedia, which you'll figure out as you add content to more articles. It's definitely possible to start with linking, grammar, and stuff like that, but I think it could be easier to start with content addition-based edits. You might have a different experience, though! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 07:46, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

References

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	I see you reverting vandalism often. Keep up the good work! :) Ashleyyoursmile! 07:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Pop-Smoke-headshot.jpg

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That's fine with me. It looks like a new fair-use image is being used as the infobox image for the article subject, so the one I uploaded has served its purpose. I think the new one is fine, too. palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 05:05, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Our project

Good afternoon Palindromesemordnilap. I noted a recent edit you made to the Delta Delta Delta page, reverting vandalism. Thanks for that.

Should you have further interest in Greek societies, we'd welcome your participation on our shared project, the Fraternities and Sororities Project.

For many of us, these institutions represent a very impactful period in our lives. I know of several chapter advisors among the regular 300 participants, along with general alumni and undergrads that are Wiki-savvy. We presently keep an eye on 1,500 or so Greek pages, while a fairly substantial number of recent or dormant local chapters don't make the cut. There are perhaps 6,000 locals that do not have a Wikipedia article, and maybe 50 that do - mostly at Ivy League schools. Long ago, the Baird's Manual editors decided to include as national groups those societies that had three or more chapters, or locals that met a certain bar of longevity: ten years or more. We follow that same logic.

The Project page lists several items on our To Do list, but among them are:

1. Review any of our watched pages for vandalism.
2. Update chapter information for the many lists of chapters.
3. Write an article to list the Greeks on a particular campus. 50 of these have been done, so far.
4. Research a new article for a page that is missing. On our watchlist, these show up as red links.
5. Vote on whether to keep a contested page or not.

There is a debate among editors on Wikipedia about whether to aggressively delete articles or allow their inclusion, based on a notoriously fickle determination of NOTIBILITY. Once an article is factually and cleanly written, I personally favor Inclusion, in order to make life easier for future researchers. Especially for fraternity, sorority and collegiate society articles.

If this last issue is of interest, you may wish to weigh in on a recent discussion of an "Article for Deletion" or AfD: Two or three of these crop up each month. One we are currently discussing is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delta Beta Phi. Voting is simple, and the instructions are at the top. Just add a line, with your vote, to Keep or Delete (or some other option) bolded at the start of the line.

Whatever you choose to do, we would welcome your participation in this Greek-friendly project. Join by adding your name here.
Jax MN (talk) 23:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Jax MN, thank you for the invitation to join the project (and you're welcome for reverting the vandalism!). I am going to decline your offer at this time because I don't actually have very much knowledge about Greek societies. I happened to notice this instance of vandalism because I was looking at "Recent changes" to Wikipedia, and I saw that the changes to this article looked surprising and, on further inspection, went against sourced information in the article. Thank you again for reaching out, and good luck with the project! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 04:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Michael Iverson

Michael Iverson was added to the page on people from North Dakota and is currently the VP of the Independent Insurance Agents of Georgia found here https://www.iiag.org/board-of-directors/ and also owns this firm https://www.mdiverson.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.59.63.2 (talk) 21:37, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

207.59.63.2, thanks for the message. The top of the article List of people from North Dakota says that

This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by adding missing items with reliable sources. (bolding my own)

I'm not sure that either of the links you provided is a reliable source since they don't appear to be independent sources as they appear to be closely affiliated with the subject.

Moreover, every entry on this list has an associated Wikipedia article, so I think the first bullet point here describes the selection criteria being used for this list. To quote, the selection criteria are that "Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia." To begin the article creation process for this individual (which should only be done if you believe the individual meets the notability requirements for an article), or for anything/anyone else, check out WP:FIRST.

Before beginning an article, though, I would recommend visiting the WP:TEAHOUSE to ask any questions you have about creating articles, adding to lists, or editing in general. I also left a general welcome message on your talk page that has many helpful links. Happy editing! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 22:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Neat!

I guess you do like palindromes. But how you manage to revert the image in your signature is a true work of art! Kudos! warshy ^(¥¥) 21:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, warshy, I'm glad you like it! To revert the image in my signature, I used some websites – I think a combination of this one and this one, or something similar – where you can type in a word, and then you get the corresponding characters that look like the word you entered but upside down. For example, for the upside down "l", it suggested using a version of the letter Nun, which is not a letter I knew would look like an upside down "l" but apparently does a pretty good job! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 21:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanations. I'm still a little confused about the difference between the username and the signature name, but I guess you couldn't use the § sing in the username. Is "ese" somehow related to the name of the § sign? Sorry for so many seemingly stupid questions, you really don't have to explain anything to me if you don't feel like. In any case, I enjoyed looking at your creativity. Thanks, warshy ^(¥¥) 23:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

warshy, don't worry about it! My intent was for the signature to just be a stylized form of my username. I chose the § sign with the idea that it looks like an "s", and I also thought it improved the readability of my username, and made for a good divider between links to my user and talk pages (nothing deeper than that, really). So it's kind of like "palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd" → "palindromesǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd" → "palindromesemordnilap" (my username). I set a custom signature in Preferences > Signature. The custom signature (with bolding, links, and colors) is

[[User:Palindromesemordnilap|<b style="color:#800000">palindrome</b>]]§[[User talk:Palindromesemordnilap|<b style="color:#017745">ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd</b>]]

which (without bolding, colors, and real links) is basically

[[Userpage|palindrome]]§[[Talkpage|ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd]]

Let me know if you have any follow-up questions! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 01:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Palindromesemordnilap (talk · contribs) - Wow! Thank you so much for the time spent with probably rather irrelevant questions (certainly for you), and for the lesson on Wikipedia editing. For me it was all quite enlightening and a pleasure to look at and learn, so thank you again. Regards, warshy ^(¥¥)

I also dropped by because of your signature. While I currently use a mirror-image signature, I've previously had upside-down ones. I have a suggested tweak which I think would be an improvement to your signature. Replace the ᴉ with <span style="position:relative;top:.2em;">ᴉ</span> to produce palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd. I think it looks much better with everything lined up. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I was using an iPad when I wrote the above. It occurred to me that this may appear differently on different devices, so I checked, and I see that everything lines up fine in your current signature on Windows, although on some browsers, such as Firefox and IE, some letters are bolder than others. On iPads and Macs, the "ᴉ" is much higher than the other text; additionally, on Macs the upside-down "l" is bent. On an iPhone, it's all lined up, but the "ᴉ" has serifs, so it doesn't match the right-side-up one. On Androids, it's almost right, but the upside-down "l" is just a tiny bit too high. I remember that it was such differences (as well as some letters not showing up at all in some cases) that prompted me to abandon my upside-down signatures. Oh, well. (BTW, sorry about messing up the section heading – it's always hazardous when editing with an iPad.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mandarax, oh, that makes sense! I'm editing on Windows, and it shows up almost perfectly there, so I was wondering what things were looking like from your end. I also have an Android, and I see the issue you mentioned of a mis-aligned "l" on there, but that's it.

Here's the message I had typed before getting an edit conflict and seeing your message (I included a screenshot of what my original signature looks like to me, and of what my signature looks like to me with the suggestion you made):

"I'm glad you like my signature – you've definitely had your share of cool signatures over the years! Thanks for the suggestion, too. The use of top:.2em; seems like it could come in handy. I think I'll leave my signature how it is for now because, at least from my end, it renders pretty well. For me, adding <span style="position:relative;top:.2em;">ᴉ</span> ends up displacing the upside-down "i" character. I captured a screenshot of my current signature (first image), and of the signature with the additional code added (second image)."

The first image shows how I see my signature. The second image shows how I see my signature when I add the additional code.

I hadn't considered that upside-down signatures could look markedly different on different platforms. I'll stick with this signature for now, but if I end up changing it, I'll think twice before including flipped text. Thanks again for the messages and the suggestions! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 21:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

It's too bad it's not consistent everywhere. I'm back on an iPad now, and the version I displayed above with my modification looks just like your first image file, of how you see your signature. I'm glad you didn't think I was just crazy for suggesting something that, with your configuration, must've seemed crazy. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Wilmington, Delaware

A battalion Chief is the tour, or shift commander, a tour or shift is like any other line of work, 8 hour day. The Battalion Chief is the officer that you see riding in the SUV. So I am going to put my edit back. Ok. You can contact me if you have any questions. Thanks Doriden (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I left it alone and just added under the command of a battalion chief. Doriden (talk) 15:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up message

Sir he is the chief of the whole dept, you demoted him (LOL), the battalion chief is kind of like the manager of Field operations, it is the position after captain. I told you to ask me if you have any questions. Please leave it like I had it. It's not bothering anyone, and anyone bothering to read about the fire department would know what a Battalion Chief is. A Battalion is a group of men. Like the military also uses the word battalion as do all fire departments. Thank you Doriden (talk) 20:54, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Doriden, shoot, thanks for pointing that out. When I found the news article about the new chief, I misread it. (I thought it was saying that John Looney is the new battalion chief, but it was saying that he was a battalion chief and is now the chief.) Thanks for catching and explaining my mistake! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 21:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

No problem sir Doriden (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up message

The fire chief, unlike a Battalion Chief (there are several Battalion chiefs) is an administrative position and seldom respond to fire scenes unless a very large fire or some kind of unusual situation or injury or a death involved. A Battalion Chief is the field chief and is in charge of the shift, whether it be a 12 hour shift, 24 hr shift, or whatever that particular city is using. It could be 2 days on 3 days off, etc.. but they are supervised by the Battalion Chief. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Thank you Doriden (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Additional info on term "battalion chief"

A large city with more firefighters may have more than one Battalion Chief on duty for each shift (work period). The city that I worked for had 4 Battalion Chiefs on duty each shift. The FDNY has more than 50 Battalion chiefs on duty each shift. The Battalion Chief reports to the Deputy Chief, who in turn reports to the chief of the Department. That's basically the chain of command in most fire departments. Thank you Doriden (talk) 21:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up message

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I added a Wikipedia link to the term Battalion Chief in the Wilmington Deleware Wikipedia page under the fire department paragraph. Thank You, Doriden Doriden (talk) 09:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, that was a good idea! palindrome§ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd 13:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)