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Edit summaries

I just want to commend you on your edit summaries. Top marks. That is exemplary work. Schwede66 03:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I worry that they're too wordy and rambling sometimes (good thing there's a character limit), but I think it's helpful to set out my thinking so that others can easily understand my intentions.MW691 (talk) 05:13, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

You say: "Hope it's all right for me to re-rate this myself. It's clearly no longer a stub, and list seems to be the obvious classification." Yes, it's absolutely fine for you to re-rate an article that you have improved. Unless you get very experienced in rating, anything below B-class is fine for you to rate yourself. Once you've done a lot of rating, you can even do your own B-class. Anything above B-class must always be rated by other editors. Schwede66 00:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. MW691 (talk) 03:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Barbara Edmonds

You say in your edit summary: "A different Barbara Edmonds now qualifies for an article, as she has just been elected to the New Zealand Parliament. Have copied onto the page the draft prepared by the WikiProject New Zealand politics taskforce, as it can't be moved directly to an existing page name" Unfortunately, that's not the correct way to go about it as this constitutes a cut-and-paste move. And with that, the history of the draft goes missing. That is a problem because, for legal reasons, a page history must be maintained. The correct thing to do is to ask for help; there are users who can move over existing pages. I'll fix it now via a history merge. Schwede66 21:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I was worried that I was doing the wrong thing there. I had a brief look at the pages on moves and couldn't see anything about this sort of case or where to ask for help, and I was in a rush to get the content in the right place as the page was already being linked to. I should have taken more time and care, and I apologise. MW691 (talk) 07:25, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, "moving a page" is a rather long set of instructions. Your case is covered under WP:MOR. Those things tend to happen quickly; there is no backlog with technical move requests. You can also see whether you spot an admin who is currently active and shoulder-tap them. Schwede66 23:20, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for Feedback

Kia ora and thank you so much for all of your helpful feedback! I'll definitely take it on board if (and when) I do my next one :-) It's nice to have helpful/non-passive aggressive feedback, as it seems very common in some parts of wikipedia! Nauseous Man (talk) 07:25, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! It's very kind of you to say so. And thank you for doing the hard work of actually putting a table together. I've always been too worried about getting the numbers wrong to give it a try, much as I'd like to see the electorate articles all be up to date. It's much easier to follow along and check up on other people's contributions!

It is sadly common to see negatively phrased feedback. I haven't had much personally, but I've been an intermittent observer of Wikipedia politics for many years, and seeing how unpleasant it can get is probably partly why I only stopped lurking last year. On the other hand, positive interactions like this one are very encouraging! MW691 (talk) 10:56, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

In terms of getting the numbers right, I made a spreadsheet of the 2017 election and 2020 numbers and did the math through formula. I wonder if it would be useful for me to upload the template with the formulae built into it somewhere, so that others can just plug in the raw data and everything comes out good. Have a good day! Nauseous Man (talk) 20:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

That sounds a very good way of doing things! If you did want to upload that - maybe on the Politics taskforce page? - I'm sure it would very helpful to users. I've just added the Rangitata numbers, and as my spreadsheet skills are minimal, I did the individual calculations, which was a very slow process. If you have time at some point, you would be most welcome to check them - but only if you want to! MW691 (talk) 09:22, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Stylistic changes

I changed the layout of the infobox value on 52nd New Zealand Parliament because having it in reverse chronological order is a bit confusing especially when there are three other people that don't get clear term dates in the infobox. I'm not going to change all previous years because those ones mostly only have two people in the cell, max, and the current format works for that. In cases where there are a lot of people in that role, my layout is easier to work out.  Nixinova   T   C   20:40, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch. I can certainly see the merits of the style you've used here, and I'm in no way attached to the previous practice - doing it in reverse reads rather oddly, and if I were the one creating all these articles initially, I don't think I would have adopted it. It's just the consistency between articles that bothers me. There are actually quite a few Parliaments where cells have three or more people in them. Just starting from the beginning, the 3rd and 5th Parliaments each have six different ministries. Even with some of those being led from the Legislative Council (and hence having a separate cell) they have five and four ministries in the one cell, respectively. The 15th Parliament has six Speakers of the Council listed. There are numerous Parliaments in the 19th and early 20th centuries with one or more cells containing three people. Things have admittedly calmed down since the start of the two-party system (while acknowledging the recent National situation that started this conversation) but as recently as the 80s you have first National and then Labour having three leaders in one term.

I realise there's no ideal way of doing this, especially in the early days with the constant changes of government and the leaders of those governments serving in both chambers, but I would like to see consistent practice across articles, whatever it may be. If we can reach a consensus I'm happy to go through and make changes myself. MW691 (talk) 03:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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On 11 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mike Butterick, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a third of the MPs elected in the 2023 New Zealand election were new to Parliament, including Carlos Cheung, Grant McCallum, Suze Redmayne, Dana Kirkpatrick, Ryan Hamilton, James Meager, Greg Fleming, Vanessa Weenink, Mike Butterick, Katie Nimon, David MacLeod, Miles Anderson, Carl Bates, Rima Nakhle, Nancy Lu, Cushla Tangaere-Manuel, Reuben Davidson, Scott Willis, Darleen Tana, Takutai Moana Kemp (all pictured), Kahurangi Carter, Todd Stephenson, Laura Trask, Cameron Luxton, Tākuta Ferris, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi, Casey Costello, Jamie Arbuckle, and Tanya Unkovich? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vanessa Weenink. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mike Butterick), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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