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A goat for you!

Thank you for all the hard work you put into the Abdul Awwal Jaunpuri article. During the AfD you handled everything kindly and professionally. I'm honestly really glad you made all those improvements, the topic is clearly important and now that it's been improved it'll be safe from being deleted down the road. Again your behavior during the AfD was excellent and I hope to see more of your great articles in the future. If you ever need help with anything please feel free to reach out to me on my talk page.

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@Dr vulpes: Thank you, I appreciate your neutrality in the discussion. Jaunpurzada (talk) 13:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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Nice work!

I am impressed the way you contribute about Muslim academia and scholarship. See if the Deoband Community Wikimedia, a recognised-affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation, could be of any assistance to you. Best regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

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এছাড়া আমি আপনাকে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় নিয়মিত অবদান রাখতে আহ্বান জানাবো। আপনি যেভাবে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়া থেকে ইংরেজিতে অনুবাদ করছেন, একইভাবে আপনি চাইলে ইংরেজি উইকিপিডিয়া থেকে অনুবাদ করে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়াকে সাহায্য করতে পারেন। ইসলামের প্রচুর কিছু ইংরেজিতে আছে কিন্তু বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় নেই। বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় স্বেচ্ছাসেবক খুব কম, হাতে গোনা ১০-১৫ জন; যেখানে ইংরেজি উইকিতে রয়েছে হাজার হাজার। ভাষাভাষীর দিক থেকে বাংলা বিশ্বের ৫ম-৬ষ্ঠ ভাষা হলেও শীর্ষ ৫০টি উইকিপিডিয়ায়র মধ্যে বাংলা এখনো আসতে পারেনি। Category:Islam থেকে যা বাংলা উইকিতে নেই, তা তৈরি করে সাহায্য করতে পারেন। ধন্যবাদ। আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:52, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: ধন্যবাদ আপনাকেও। বাংলায় অবদান আছে আমার ... আমি বাংলাভাষী স্বেচ্ছাসেবকদের কিন্তু ভালো করে চিনি না, উল্লেখিত ১০-১৫ স্বেচ্ছাসেবকদের নাম দিলে আশা করি পরিচিত হতে পারবো?Jaunpurzada (talk) 15:16, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@Jaunpurzada, হ্যাঁ, আপনি বাংলায় ৪২টি অবদান রেখেছেন দেখেছি। তবে আপনি ইংরেজি উইকিপিডিয়ায় প্রায় ৪০০+ সম্পাদনা করেছেন, আমার আশা ও কামনা, আপনি বাংলাতেও একই রকম সক্রিয় হবেন।

বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় অবদান রাখতে আমাদের সকলের সাথে আপনার পূর্ব পরিচিত হতে হবে না :) তবে আপনি বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় অবদান রাখলে নিশ্চয়ই আস্তে আস্তে কথাবার্তা হবে।

আজ থেকেই বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় নিয়মিত অবদান রাখা শুরু করুন ভাই। উদাহরণস্বরূপ, Abu Muhammad al-Hasan ibn Musa al-Nawbakhti পাতাটি বাংলায় অনুবাদ করুন। কোনও ভুল হলে আমি ঠিক করে দিব। :) আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Nawab Ali Asghar Khan

Thank you for editing that page of Nawab Ali Asghar Khan. Younger brother of Nawab Ali Haider Khan MLA and son of Nawab Ali Amjad Khan. Nawab Ali Asghar Khan also has a uncle by the name of Ali Akthar Khan. Ali Akthar Khan was born 1893 and died 1971. I believe somewhere between 1925 - 1955 he was a member of something. Either a member of the Assam legislative assembly/ or council or the member of Bengal legislative council. Could you help me find out? Bahadur Khan (talk) 03:10, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Help!

Hey Jaunpurzada, Will you please help me on this draft Draft:Dargah Ustad E Zaman Trust. I am beginner and I don't know how to improve article. Kindly help me. Wikischolarrr (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Barelvi madarsas

Why are you removing the Barelvi Madrasas from the list? Do you have any proof that those aren’t Barelvi madrasas? Most of them were founded by Futali who was a Sufi and the Syllabus of Madrasa includes the books of Aala Hazrat, that it is clear that those are Barelvi Madrasas! Please revert your edit, Thanks. Syed Aala Qadri (talk) 14:49, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Syed Aala Qadri Kalkatvi: I belong to the Jaunpuri silsila, and the Fultali tradition is a branch of this silsila. Naturally, Fultali Sahib was opposed to many beliefs of the Barelvi movement during his lifetime and his followers are aligned to the maslak of Karamat Ali Jaunpuri, Shah Ismail Dehlvi and Syed Ahmad Barelvi. I don't understand how you can make such a grave error. --Jaunpurzada (talk) 15:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Jaunpurzada, Was he a Deobandi or any other? I can’t understand this! Pls let me know more. Syed Aala Qadri (talk) 13:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Shams

Please be aware of the fact that the page is for Shams not for others which are indirectly related to the name. So you may consider to create pages for each version instead of adding them to the Shams page. Egeymi (talk) 18:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Egeymi: It is not an indirect relation, it is a direct relation. Compound names are very common in Arabic and you can find this in many articles not just Shams Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

But each has its own page. So it is just a repetition. In regard to compound words or Arabic I have enough information, since I'm a linguist. --Egeymi (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Egeymi: I am as well. It makes it easy to find all the compound names when you go to the main name. Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

The slot in the infobox is not for individuals, please don't add any. --Egeymi (talk) 18:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Egeymi: I didn't add any individuals, both of those are pages. I will report you and get you blocked if you cause disruption again. Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

What????? Go ahead. If you correctly fill the edit summaries instead of writing Muslim nobleman, etc. I could understand your edits and did not revert your edit. But threatening is not a civil act, don't forget that. --Egeymi (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

One more, this page is for people with plain Shams, not for others. Egeymi (talk) 18:39, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

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@Maliner:, Hello Mr. Can you explain?Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You are removing well-sourced content from the article without adequately explaining why, per sources Jamia Ahmadiyya Sunnia Kamil Madrasa run by Anjuman Rahmania Trust is a notable organisation of the Barelvi movement. There is already a discussion relevant to it on article's talk. Please don't edit war. Maliner (talk) 18:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't remove [Jamia Ahmadiyya Sunnia Kamil Madrasa]] from the list at all, so you are lying now. Check my edit, I only removed the unsourced entries. You are edit warring by adding unsourced information again and again and pretending that I am removing the sourced information.Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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You removed Jamiya Anjuman Rahmania that is the another name of JAS Kamil Madras per source. Maliner (talk) 18:42, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You are accusing me of what you are doing, how that makes sense? I removed the unsourced info, not JAS Kamil Madrasa so you are lying now. I removed the one which had no source. It is you who is "repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be"... It's you who is edit warring. Jaunpurzada (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I have no issues with the removal of unsourced content. But you were literally removing WP:RS. Anyway, you are on your third revert today. See WP:3R. Maliner (talk) 18:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@Sitush: Can you please check the article Barelvi movement? Maliner keeps reverting my edits because I am removing the names of items on the Notable organizations and Main institutions section because they are not sourced. No source, no mention correct?

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