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Proposed deletion of Mayor of Bergen edit

 

The article Mayor of Bergen has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Highly vague -- Bergen? See Bergen (disambiguation)#Places. Whatever the city is, this concept would work better a portion of a "City government" section of the city's page.

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I got it edit

I will move the article to the Bergen article under the Administration section. Thanks for the information. It is nicer to know before it all happens(: And..maybe you could help me with keeping the article in the Bergen article..

Talk:Oslo City Hall edit

As I disagree with your latest edit, I have raised the issue at the talk page. Please take part in the discussion to form a consensus. Regards, --Kjetil_r 16:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletion of Celsius (book) edit

 

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The article will be deleted. --Fiskepinner (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Knut Haavik edit

Can you provide references for this article that demonstrate the subject's notability? PDCook (talk) 20:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Barcode Project edit

 

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January 2010 edit

  Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Barcode Project. Please use the {{hangon}} template on the page instead if you disagree with the deletion, and make your case on the page's talk page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 00:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletion of New Oslo (project) edit

 

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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Slyngstad 2008 1.jpg edit

 
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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:198px-Norwegian Labour Party Logo without the name.svg.png edit

 
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Jens Stoltenberg photo edit

I won't edit war over it, but why do you insist on using the other photo in the infobox? I'd say his pose in the new one is not that great, it kind of looks like he is being shot in the back, and it's a bit overexposed. We could keep it, but move it down to, say the prime minister section. The other one is a featured picture, which is considered one of the finest images on Commons, and it fits the infobox quite nicely. Let me know what you think. Connormah (talk | contribs) 21:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Copyright problems with File:Stoltenberg.jpg edit

 

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Your photos edit

You have uploaded a number of photos, claiming that they are your own work[1]. Are you sure that they are? For example, File:NewOslo.jpg is depicting buildings still not erected. If this indeed is your own work, you have quite good photoshopping skills – like a trained professional with years of experience. --Kjetil_r 23:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Not only that, you appear to have taken File:Stoltenberg.jpg at exactly the same time, with exactly the same camera make, lens, aperture, shutter speed, etc... Maybe not...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Since there has been no response here. I have deleted all your uploaded images as copyvios. Rettetast (talk) 08:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Not the right way to do things edit

I reverted your making a redirect of the page Oslo City. Just because you created another stub page which you think is better or whatever other reason you had for making a new page doesn't justify nullifying the efforts made by previous editors in creating the already existing page. __meco (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

AfD nomination of List of Norwegian national agencies edit

 

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AfD nomination of Barcode Project edit

This article duplicates Bjørvika, as I discovered when looking at the sources to find out where the title came from. The existing article refers to the new projects and so all that is needed is to add the latest references and names of project buildings to it. No new article is warranted. If you want to do the honors and update Bjørvika with the latest references, great; otherwise I'll do it. Meanwhile, I'm letting you know as creator and main editor on Barcode Project; please join the discussion at the AfD page. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

AfD nomination of Barcode Project edit

 

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March 2010 edit

  Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to the page Barcode Project (Oslo). Blank pages can confuse readers, and are overall not helpful to the Wikipedia project; furthermore, blanking a page is not the same as deleting it.

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File copyright problem with File:Per Borten.jpg edit

 

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File copyright problem with File:Jan P Syse.jpg edit

 

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Dont remove redlinks edit

Don't remove redlinks to notable people. Geschichte (talk) 09:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Oslo School of Management edit

 

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Proposed deletion of Tøyenbadet edit

 

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Speedy deletion nomination of Norwegian University of Sport and Physical Education edit

 

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Speedy deletion nomination of Norwegian University of Sport and Physical Education edit

 

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Maps edit

In August you uploaded four maps of Ruter's various networks. On all four you stated "This and the other maps by Ruter ASA uploaded in Wikimedia Commons are licensed under a free art license for use at non-commercial websites such as Wikipedia." Could you please provide evidence of this? I have looked through both the original documents and Ruter's web site without finding any such claims. Also note that a CC-NC (non-commercial) license is not permitted on Wikipedia. Arsenikk (talk) 12:39, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletion of Oslo timeline edit

 

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Confucius Peace Prize edit

Please do not blank the page. If you have an opinion about the article's existence, then feel free to comment on the afd. But please do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.—Chris!c/t 20:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Oslo edit

could you please use edit summaries Help:Edit_summary, it would assist knowing what edits you are doing. thanks. LibStar (talk) 04:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Copyright problem: Christian August Selmer edit

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Hello. On March 30th, another editor noted that this article appeared to contain substantial content translated directly from [2]. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 March 31. As an administrator who works the copyright problems board, I am looking into this, and I'm sorry to see that you were not notified as you should have been, nor was the article flagged. Both of these are meant to help clarify copyright issues before issues are closed.
I do see that it looks likely they published the content early - the very first change you made to the article (here) altered the word "Rod" which is still in use in that external source. If they copied it from us, they would have either had to have done so within those couple of hours or they would have had to change it back. This seems unlikely. On the other hand, I also cannot confirm publication of this material before 2013. I cannot verify that they have a compatible license on this article, although it seems they do on some. Where they do, they indicate as much below the "cite this article" parameter.
If you are able to clarify the origin of this content, it would be much appreciated. We do not like to lose content unnecessarily, but we do have to make sure that content is properly licensed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
It seems that Frederik Stang is also a copyright problem, with material taken from the same source. As it was published elsewhere in February 2009, more than a year before you added the content to Wikipedia, it is easy to verify that the copyright issues are substantial here. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom elections are now open! edit

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Possibly unfree File:Ibsen head.jpg edit

 

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Oslo major events timeline edit

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