User talk:DaGizza/Archive/13

Kama & Artha are lower Purusharths is a wrong statement.

One could say for deploring Kama & Artha as lower Purusharths. It could have been said, just to make people move to Dharma & Moksha. Lot of Sanyasees try to deplore Kama & Artha, particularly Jain Sadhus try to create hate in the minds of people living family life.

Does one not need money to do one's religious duties or support Sanyasees or Brahmins or religious institutions? Krishna has said in Srimad Bhagawad Geeta that "Kama" is my "Vibhuti." In Hindu doctrines "Kama" is supported confining sexual pleasure with one's wedded spouse in the witness of fire (A form of God), Brahmin and society. Is it possible to conquer "Kama" by any average person? Vishwamitra also sliped. When Krishna declared "Kama" as Krishna's "Vibhuti" who are we to deplore "Kama"? Indian has n' number of Sanyasees. With due respect to Swami Bhaskaranandji, I say that anything said in a particular situation or a context should not be incorporated in an article like Wikipedia which shall remain on a public forum for a long long future. Hope everyone will see the damage being done to Hindusim and restrain from continuing with statements deploring 4 pursuits of life. Swadhyayee 14:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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Please.

DaGizza,

1) Diwali is certainly celebrated by Jains, I am not sure about Shikhs but they do enjoy festival of Diwali.

2) May I request you to check my recent edits to Hinduism (Brahman) and give your opinion whether the same is better or not?

3) Do you think my edits are not understandable or my English is poor as repeatedly claimed by HeBhagawan?

4) Do you think that the article Hinduism should not be edited with clarification or additional details by anyone else than HeBhagawan?

Swadhyayee 03:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who left Islam

List of converts to Hinduism is up for deletion in this Afd as well. There's al lot of hard work that would be lost. I can verify and ref things on the list.Bakaman _Bakatalk 20:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Police Rugby League

It was suggested that I should contact you for some advice/help with a page I created and have had deleted. Can you please check out my talk page to see what is going on. I created a page on the Police Rugby League in Victoria, a founding member of the Australian Police Rugby League Association. Thanks. VPRLC 01:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Hinduism

We really need to update our project. WP Inda is very well done. I wish we had that level of organization. I'd like to merge our project templates like they did and start some kind of assessment program. I think we should also start a yoga project. any thoughts?--D-Boy 11:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Immigration in Bhutan

Immigration in Bhutan deals with issues relating to the ethnic communities of Nepal. The factual presentation of the article are inaccurate at places UNHCR states that Lhotsampas have been staying in Bhutan from 19th century whereas the article states it to be of 20th century. After the recent revolution of Nepal, the ethnic communities have suddenly waken up from their peaceful dormant state to an aggressive form which can be attributed to some extent to the armed conflict of Maoists. The ethnic communities share feeling of kinship with the people who are "refugees" now. The tolerant nature of these ethnic groups had to a large extent prevented any ethnic clashed between the ethnic groups of Nepal and Druks. The article is biased and statements like

While the intent of the policy was benign and inclusive, the government not totally unreasonably, implied that the 'culture' to be preserved would be that of the northern Bhutanese. This policy therefore required citizens to wear the attire of the northern Bhutanese in public places and reinforced the status of Dzongkha as the national language. Nepali was discontinued as a subject in the schools thus bringing it at par with the status of the other languages of Bhutan, none of which are taught. Such policies were criticized at first by human rights groups as well as Bhutan's Nepalese economic migrant community, who perceived the policy to be directed against them. The Nepali immigrants claim that the Bhutanese are clinging to power at the expense of human rights, pluralism, and democratic principles. However many in Bhutan see the ethnic Nepali immigrants’ cry for pluralism and democracy as just an excuse to overwhelm and take over a lightly populated Bhutan through unrestricted immigration.

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This act led to the increased activity of numerous groups to protest against what was seen as an injustice against resident Nepalis.

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Thus a group of several thousand left and settled in refugee camps. The UNHCR aid provided to these people also attracted the poor from border areas of Nepal, who claimed to be refugees as well to receive aid

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Matters reached a head in September 1990 after well organized groups comprised of 10,000 or more ethnic Nepalis from the Indian side of the border, organized protest marches in different districts, burned down schools, stripped local government officials of their national attire which they burned publicly, carried out kidnappings and murders of other ethnic Nepalis who did not join their protests. Some of the organizers of the marches were arrested and detained. However the Bhutanese government later released most of them. Those with ties to the groups responsible for the murders and kidnappings were forced to leave, but unfortunately many other innocent ethnic-Nepali citizens were coerced to leave by the angry ethnic-Nepali dissidents.

inflame and provoke the situation further. Considering the ethnic clashes, which are omnipresent in South Asia resulting poorly written and nonneutral articles like this, I propose that this article is either rewritten with a neutral point of view with references/source from United Nations and other such respeced global entities rather than some pro-Druk or pro-Lhotsampa or be deleted and kept in a deleted state till neutral point of view is established. I also would like to request the use of Lhotsampa rather than Nepali if this article is rewritten because the Bhutanese refugees are not Nepalese citizens. Its like calling John F Kennedy as Irish president.--Eukesh 21:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 12:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Cats and Dogs Portals

Hi, DaGizza. If you can offer some tips on the respective portal talk pages about how to improve Cats and Dogs up to "featured" quality, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbie^talk 18:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank's for the ideas. I am however going to keep my old name to save confusion, since the name change was unsuccessful. Thanks for the ideas I am very grateful. I have however put in the Sacred OM in my signature.--^ॐ Seadog ^ॐ 17:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:CRIC

Hi DaGizza, thanks for your suggestion. I've joined the Project. Can you tel me the tasks I can carry out in the Project. Mohammed Malvankar 15:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Quote

Thanks for the Einstein quote, I love the Bhagavad Gita Also, Cheers.--^ॐ Seadog ^ॐ 22:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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prasad

namaste DaGizza, It seems that Swadhyayee understood you to approve of adding terminology and explanations of the terminology to the article (see his edits in the Puja section, where he added an explanation of "naivedya" to the discussion of prasad). However, it seems to me that you are approving of removing such terminology. Which did you mean to say--that he should remove such definitions to a separate glossary, or that he should add them to the main article? Personally, I am opposed to him adding to the length of the main article by incorporating non-essential terms and definitions. HeBhagawan 13:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Kashmir

Hi DaGizza,

I just wanted to request that you be a little careful in your wording on the Hinduism talk page. You said "the truth is sadly that the majority of Kashmiris. . .are Muslims." To say "sadly" makes it sound like an insult to Muslims. As a Hindu, I respect all religions, and I do not want to see any of them insulted. Perhaps you didn't mean any insult to Islam, but that's how it sounded to my ear. Namaskaar, HeBhagawan 16:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

An explanation for your reverts?

Hi DaGizza, I noticed that you reverted my changes to Vishnu wherein I had added a brief summary of Vishnu as described in the Bhagavad Gita. Could you please provide an explanation for the revert?

If you notice on the talk page Talk:Vishnu User:GourangaUK is in agreement with my edits for the intro. The additional changes I made complete Vishnu citations from Smriti and Shruti and are NOT at all spam. The section was titled pre-Puranic Vishnu, citing Vedas, Brahmanas and Upanishads (or Smriti and Shruti). Since the Bhagavad Gita is also considered part of Shruti and in any case is an important text on Vishnu as Krishna (and not just for Vaishnavas), I think it is worthwhile to include those where Vishnu is described.

Regards Savyasaachi 03:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism

Namaste, I do not mind the question. Well I was a Christian...However I was really young when I was a Christian I assumed everyone was a Christian. But when I was older I was curious to see what was out there in the world and I became very interested in a variety of religions, I am still very interested in many different religions. However one religion stuck out from the rest it was Hinduism, I was amazed by the power of the Upanishads and the Gita. I have always been a religious pluralist so Hinduism felt right for me, as you may know not a lot of religions are pluralistic. Well I hope this gives you an idea. Cheers!__Seadog ^♪ 14:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Gizza, I noticed your conversation with Arjun about conversion. I also live in the west (USA) and I know a number of people who have converted to Hinduism from Judaism and Christianity, and none of them are affiliated with ISKON. I also know a number of people who continue to follow religions such as Christianity, but they incorporate Hindu ideas into their religion. ISKON is often associated with western Hinduism because they worship very publically, chanting on the streets and giving out literature. But there are a number of other Hindu groups in the west that keep to themselves a little more. HeBhagawan 02:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Hinduism#Hindu_Barnstar

what do we do next?--D-Boy 20:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for informing me about WP conventions. I was not aware barnstars are put up for comment before being adopted. Of course I did not intend the present one for project hinduism to be the final one. I will help create a better one with inputs from other members. I'd love to see other barnstars which we would wish to emulate in design etc. ­ ॐ Kris (☎ talk | contribs) 13:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Sydney Morning Herald Wikipedia story

I work at The Sydney Morning Herald and one of our journalists, Tim Elliott, is doing a feature story on Wikipedia and would love to talk to anybody who contributes, edits or administers Wikipedia, especailly those who are part of the Sydney Wiki community. His contact is 02 9282 1926 or 0419 370 651 or telliott@smh.com.au

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Angela Bell (angela26)

User talk:BhaiSaab

He's gone! He retired. Guy actually threatened Hkel on the phone! He's the reason why I left wikipedia for a while in the first place.--D-Boy 20:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop#Bakasuprman

May be of interest to you as you commented on the arbcom.Bakaman _Bakatalk 20:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Anti-Hindu propaganda.

Abecedare is trying to retain mischievous links of anti-Hindus on talk page of Hinduism. Could someone place such highly mischievous links in subversive way by having them on talk page and cite vague Wikipedia policy? Will you give your views to remove entire discussion if we have to retain mischievous links on talk page just to have the discussion? swadhyayee 01:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Grammatical error on Tutorial page

Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander 12:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC) I noticed a grammar error on the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial

The error: "Wikipedia is a edited encyclopedia to which you can contribute." And I think it should read: "Wikipedia is a an edited encyclopedia to which you can contribute."

I assume that a user of my status cannot edit a page such as this (I see no "Edit" tab), but I was hoping that you would be able to (or at least know of someone who is able to) change this article.

Thanks, Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander 12:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles_-_2

Voting on the use of indic scripts.--D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)