User talk:Bsrboy/Archive 1

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February 2008

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GDP (PPP) per capita IMF Map

Sorry but the reason I have removed the image which you have created is because the name of the images must be smaller in name so it is simple and easier to read and remember, plus I have chosen a different colour for the map, because the CIA Stat map has the same colour-use as the one you have created so different data are known simply from colours, sorry mate. Moshino31 (talk) 17:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi there just to let you know I have reverted it back to your map OK, bye. Moshino31 (talk) 18:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Your recent edits

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My talk page

I have seen that you posted on my talk page :). But your facts are quite wrong. I assume that you actually read my user page, which is only half accurate. The bottom half, I copied from another User. My Wiki-boxes did not work properly due to my poor coding. As stated in the first few lines of my user page, which you should have read first,

"This is a really bad page. Edit it to make it better. As you can see, I don't know how to use wikipedia language editting."

So, therefore, I am NOT brazilian (angry face and insulted) and cannot help you with that article. though I

"can speak english"

because I live in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Re-Edit (see I even forgot my name)Bdodo1992 (talk) 17:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

School leaving age.

The image legend colours are quite small when viewed from the article (dependant upon resolution of course), and the colours are easier identifyable with a reference on the article for someone didn't want to load the entire image up. Most other list articles with maps also follow this pattern, although I admit alot of those have text that is incoherent unless the image is made bigger. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

School Leaving Age

Hi, I really appreciate the work you do on improving that article. About the source of the information that I gave about "Saudis going to college", I don't really seem to have any link that leads you to a trusted source (or any other source), but as I remember I have heard this information from a teacher in my school two months ago. I am really sorry if I gave you incomplete information, or information that are just not good enough for your standards. Thank you again on improving any article that is somehow related to Saudi Arabia. Meshal Obeidallah (talk) 21:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)User: Meshal Obeidallah

I have added the school leaving and minimum employment ages for Pakistan.Nice work bro.....Keep it up...--Adeelbutt88 ^talk 05:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Ivybridge Community College

1) No references 2) If you intend to fill the list of alumni staff and former principles, only include noteworthy ones. From my recollection, none of them are noteworthy 3) "Curriculum" is just a standard set of information on regulation features of a British secondary school and not useful 4) The school is a significant one in the Devon area, worthy of mention on the DEVON page. Plymouth too maybe. But it's not worth of it's own page....barely anything there's important. Even if the article was made the best it could be it would suck. 5) Article filled with POV statements 6) Some badly written sections (The Elfoid (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC))

I have started cleanup work; I hope you see now why the page needs deleting. (The Elfoid (talk) 12:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC))

I see that you have been editing the article about Ivybridge Community College. Because of this and that your username has bsr in it which stands for bonville support rooms, which is in the college i am guessing that you attend the college also? is this correct? (TimE742 —Preceding comment was added at 19:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

I have assessed the article. And while the above stands the article needs quite a bit of improvement. Also, please have a look at WP:COI and make sure the article conforms to WP:NPOV. Thanks and let me know if there's anything I can do. Adam McCormick (talk) 02:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Concerning importance rating, we generally set all all importance ratings as blank or Low until the school becomes important to the project. Note that this rating has nothing to do with the school, but rather how important the article is to the project's goals. As an article builder, the metric you should really worry about is the class-rating which is most of what matters. Adam McCormick (talk) 00:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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The sandbox

Please use common sense when editing the sandbox. Firstly, please preserve the header. Secondly, if you must have an 89 KB sandbox, please make it a user sub page. Users with slow connections are adversely affected by unexpected large pages, as is everyone else, to a lesser degree. Finally, if you didn't create that page, you should revert or fix revisions like that. Thank you. --Thinboy00 @048, i.e. 00:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused. All I did was type the four tildes to verify that my signature had changed properly. Bsrboy (talk) 00:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Reply copied from my talk page. Thinboy00 @074, i.e. 00:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to apologize. I was reluctant to view the diffs on this one because someone made the sandbox 89 KB long. I may go ahead and look at them. Next time you see the sandbox in such a state (headerless and long), it would be helpful if you could revert it, for the reasons I cited above. I'm going to reuse that warning on the person responsible, as soon as I figure out who it was. Again, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. --Thinboy00 @074, i.e. 00:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Good luck on finding the culprit. Bsrboy (talk) 00:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

School

Its already on its way to improvement, its a lot better since Ilast looked at it a few days ago. Realist2 (talk) 13:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Emblem

Since you uploaded it as the creator and copyright holder, I assume it is not actually an official school emblem? If you made it to look LIKE it, it's not usable (The Elfoid (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

LOOKS identical but ISN'T. You're claiming something you created is an official representation of Ivybridge Community College. It isn't technically legal for Wikipedia to have that on there and goes against a lot of strong policies. Useful or not it has to go. (The Elfoid (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

He's right there. The actual logo may be covered under fair use but a copy of a copyrighted image is illegal regardless of who created it. You don't have the right so you can't release it. Contact the school to get a legitimate logo, consult the Image Use Policy, and ask for some help from WP:WPFI if you still don'e get it (and don't feel bad if you don't because most of us don't. Adam McCormick (talk) 02:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Leeds

Hi Bsrboy, I still want to remove that leeds info, see Talk:Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom#leeds.

I saw your inkscape work, very impressive. I've played around a bit with inkscape myself. Did you know wikipedia can now upload SVG files , which many prefer as it can allow future editors more flexiblity when using your work. Theres some more stuff on svg here WP:SVG GameKeeper (talk) 20:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Your question about Public Domain images

You asked "How do I find a picture that's in the public domain or how would I know if it's in the public domain?"

There's no easy answer to your question but I'll have a go anyhow. :) Generally the person who originally made the image has to have explicitly released the image under certain licenses. When uploading an image to Wikipedia, images should preferably be public domain but some other types of licenses are also acceptable. The vast majority of images available in the world are not in the public domain (or available with wikipedia compatible licenses), which is why Wikipedia often has trouble finding good images and why ultimately the genuine answer to your question is that you do often need to produce the picture yourself, and upload it to Wikipedia yourself under a compatible license. There are some sites on the Internet where photographers are able to upload their images and release them under a license compatible with Wikipedia. One of them is http://commons.wikimedia.org/ . Some commercial sites allow users to upload images under a wikipedia compatible license, but in all cases it is your responsibility to thoroughly check that the image is in fact acceptable and you therefore really need to be familiar with Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright before you consider uploading something you've found elsewhere. I'm afraid it's not the easiest read, but the issue is complex. Another page you need to have a good look over is the Wikipedia:Image use policy. Debate (talk) 10:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Click here

Please read Don't use "click here" as link text. We try not to do it on our own websites and we certainly do not do it on Wikipedia. But if you convert Ivy Bridge into a standard disambiguation page, I shall not object. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 21:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Removing tags

Okay, I have removed the tags. Have a nice day! asenine ^t/_c 13:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I would imagine that it is appropriate. Bear in mind, though, that certain fields can be mandatory and as such if they are not available at this time... it would not be appropriate to add it. asenine ^t/_c 13:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Graph

Concerning the graph of A level results on the ICC page we both edt. I assume since you uploaded it, you have a copy on your computer, yes? It needs a date (e.g. "for the academic year 2006-2007") added, and all colours need to be the same. I don't know specific rules on it, but I read something somewhere along the lines of the idea that if some of the colours are pale and some are very bold/strong, it attracts the eye to certain areas. It's a silly little issue with POV, but you probably have the graph and can edit it but shouldn't be a big issue. (The Elfoid (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC))

Haha, yeah! I point out things like that :)(The Elfoid (talk) 18:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC))

Blocked

Blocked: Your account blocked indefinitely on checkuser findings that you have persistently and repeatedly vandalized Wikipedia while logged out of your account, this being just one example. This sort of behavior is simply not welcome. Thatcher 02:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Bsrboy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Just look at my user contributions; over 800 constructive edits. I have a proposal for you: You unblock me today and I continue my constructive edits and if any edits are deemed unconstructive you may block me for EVER! I was out of character, please blame it on extreme EUI. I have learned me lesson and it will obviously never happen again, so what's the point in blocking me for ever? You're just gona get unfinished articles. Look at the Ivybridge work I've done! "Users may be blocked from editing by an administrator to protect Wikipedia and its editors from harm." I have harmed Wikipedia and its editors, but I am not going to do it again, so there's no need for this block to remain. Bsrboy (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You need to convince us. You say that you were editing under the influence. What steps have you taken to ensure this will never happen again? Why should we believe you when just a very short time ago, you were violating Wikipedia's trust and attacking articles? At the moment, I am not inclined to take you at your word given that you have proven that your word cannot be trusted. — Yamla (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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• At least 5 and probably more IPs that you have used have been blocked for vandalism done by you while logged out. I think that by doing so you have forfeited the right to your good name and productive contribution history. However, another admin may have a different view. Thatcher 15:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I sympathise with your decission to not trust me as trusting a complete stranger can be very difficult. The first step I have taken to ensure that the "Goatse.cx" image never appears again was to delete the files of the code that I had saved from my computer. You might also be able to see that when I noticed Realist was offended by my edits I appologise to him on his user page and since then I kept my word to him in that I would never make a racist edits towards him again (He has archived that topic now I think). The second reason why I won't do it again is because I need to keep myself unblocked, so I can continue with my ongoing work to Ivybridge (just look in the history to see all the work I've done). It's not finished yet and It's rather frustrating that I can't get it up to scratch at the moment. Finally I would like to say just one thing: I am not a racist. Bsrboy (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I'm not declining your request for unblocking on the merits of your appeal, but on the grounds that it's simply too soon to unblock you. Come back in a month's time and maybe then an administrator will lend you a more sympathetic ear. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Thank you, but I can't wait a month. I make daily edits to Ivybridge and I fear that editors will just delete whole sections of the article that haven't been finished yet and I won't be able to do anything about it. Maybe you could find some tag that you put at the top to remind editors about it? Or maybe I could email my edits to you and you can copy and paste it in to the article for me? I propose a second chance be given to me. Bsrboy (talk) 15:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The world will not end if you can't edit Wikipedia for a while. The use of five separate IPs is not something we can easily forgive. Certainly not to the extent of unblocking you after a day of an indefinite block. — Daniel Case (talk) 16:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I am requesting a second chance using the second chance template. Alternatively you could give me a block for 3 days? Question: When I get unblocked can I revert this talk page to the status before I was blocked? And another thing: Please don't protect this page. I have the right to a fair trial! You make seem as though I didn't have a choice over using "5 IPs". My internet gives me a new IP and there's nothing I can do about it. Bsrboy (talk) 17:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I have no inclination to trust a serial vandal. Page protected for abuse of the unblock tag. As Wikipedia is not a governmental organisation, you do not have the right to a trial, fair or otherwise. — Sandstein (talk) 17:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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You're missing the point. You abused the community trust of Wikipedia as a whole when you used User:Bsrboy as a "good hand" account and on then vandalized while logged out of your account (the "bad hand") thinking that you would never get caught. How can we ever trust you again or why should we? If you stay away from Wikipedia for at least a month (it's deliberately meant to be uncomfortably long), only then we can take your contrition as a sign of good faith and give you a second chance. "Good things come to those who wait" and your impatience to be unblocked is also a bad sign that you're prone to get yourself caught up in edit warring. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine. I'll wait a month, but in conclusion to that can you set the block to expire in a month. I'm going to have to continue my editing on the french wikipedia from now on. Au revoir! Bsrboy (talk) 17:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Note to any future reviewing admins, Bsrboy broke his promise not to edit within minutes. --  Netsnipe  ►  23:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Email reply

Bsrboy, in reply to your second email: no, that would be enabling you to circumvent your block. (And still no on removing the protection.) Aleta ^Sing 00:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Ditto. Not a chance. Find something else to do. Accounting4Taste:talk 04:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:16:10 +0000
To: Netsnipe
Subject: Wikipedia e-mail
From: Bsrboy
Message-Id: <E1JkSTa-0005TR-QB@mchenry.wikimedia.org>

You are rather annoying...
"Note to any future reviewing admins, Bsrboy broke his promise not to edit
within minutes." I didn't promise not to edit. 
As for the protection you have added to Ivybridge...
It is completely innapropriate and I am going to seek it to be reappealed. If
you read the guidelines for how protection of pages should be issued you have
completely violated them. What have you got against me or Ivybridge? If you
continue to do this to nearly everything I do I shall report you for stalking!

So what when you said that you'll "wait a month" what did you think it meant? That you could use another account instead of this one to keep on editing? The answer is absolutely not because that is block evasion it's prohibited by Wikipedia's blocking policy. You're abusing Wikipedia like a game -- the first part that got you blocked in the first place was when you tried to pull a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde vandalism-act over our eyes, and now you're trying to play hide and seek against our this block and the administrators on this site. Sorry, but Wikipedia isn't a game, and you're meant to abide by our rules and come back in a month's time to show us that you're a serious editor and not trying to game us. The harder you try to avoid the consequences of your original vandalism, the less likely you'll ever be welcomed back into the community. --  Netsnipe  ►  10:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Emailing admins in alphabetical will not get you anywhere. It might even get your email capability blocked. Agathoclea (talk) 18:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I've waited a month as asked and I wish to be unblocked. I admit that I have abused the trust of wikipedia and its editors and I am very sorry for my actions. After a month of being blocked I have realised how stupid these actions were and that I must try my upmost to gain back the trust of wikipedia and its editors by helping wikipedia. I will never misuse the trust of wikipedia again, nor will I vandalise any articles. Thank you for your time and patience. bsrboy (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You're still running socks. User:The Vandal Warrior, for example. Did you think we wouldn't check? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 22:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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Request reason:

Why can't I just carry on like this? I've made 500 contributions and I've reverted tonnes of vandalism. I was blocked for two weeks (my IP range) and when the two week block expired I started contributing to Ivybridge and then created this account and started revertng vandalsim - one of the reasons I was blocked in the first place. I honestly thought that this would be okay. I don't see how this is sockpupetting, since I'm only using one account; the other is blocked. I've done bad and I appologise and now I just want to carry with my work to Wikipedia. bsrboy (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Well, start with picking a single account to use; stop posting unblocks on both pages. Then we'll figure out if we're willing to unblock you, although I still don't think you understand our policies about this enough to be unblocked. — Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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I have a plan for when I'm unblocked by the way: I will use bsrboy as my primary user, although I will copy and paste my navigation box and talk page comments from the The Vandal Warrior onto this account, if that's okay. bsrboy (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

In reply to your email, those images were removed because our fair use policy explicitly forbids copyrighted images in userspace. Now if you've selected this account, go ahead and convince us you should be unblocked. I'll not unblock you over email, as this needs to be reviewed by several admins, as several are involved. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Reasons for unblocking me

{{unblock}}

• I reverted Vandalism: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10].

• I issued appropriate warning templates to user talk pages: [11][12] [13][14], [15][16][17][18][19][20][21], [22][23][24] [25][26].

• I welcomed new users: [27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45][46][47][48][49].

• I created the article on Cornwood with help from Jza84 (great user by the way): [50].

• I made this userbox and this category for Grand Theft Auto IV:[51][52].

• I majorly improved the article on Ivybridge comprising of 194 edits on this account alone:[53]
  • Here is the before and after of Ivybridge before I started editing it, NB I added 26KB of information and images:[54]

• I helped out 62.136.184.179 when he asked out for help:[55][56].

• I added and referenced some information for Grand Theft Auto IV:[57].

• You can view a more detailed report of my user contributions here.

And you were doing all this using a block-evading sockpuppet, which is sufficiently contrary to Wikipedia policy to warrant you an indefinite block. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 23:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? e.g would you rather I used the account to vandalise Wikipedia? bsrboy (talk) 23:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I know you can't unblock me over email. I was asking for help on how to get others involved in the last email... I appologise if my emails have annoyed you. bsrboy (talk) 00:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Generally unblock templates get us to come running. In response to your last unblock-related comment above, the problem is you have used other accounts (or rather IP addresses) to vandalize - this was confirmed by checkuser. So you fight vandalism while logged in, great, but you're harming the encyclopedia while logged out. Good-hand-bad-hand stuff isn't helpful at all. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

You are right, although I reckon the good outweighs the bad, plus that was a month ago. Back then it was 50/50. Now it's more like 100% good. bsrboy (talk) 00:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I just got this really funny thought. Has anyone ever vandalised whilst logged out then logged in to revert the vandalism that they just made, thus making it look like they're reverting vandalism and maybe pick up a few barnstars along the way? bsrboy (talk) 00:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, probably. By the way, stop putting copyrighted images in your userspace. We use these images under a claim of fair use, which does not cover userpages. If you continue to do so, this page will be protected from editing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I don't understand what happened here though. Can you explain? bsrboy (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked was denied based on your other accounts. I suggest that you go to another project, like Wikiquote or Wikisource and help there for a few months. If you are 100% good on another project, an admin here will probably unblock you. Cheers, John Vandenberg ^(chat) 10:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Firstly you should understand the situation. "Your request to be unblocked was~". It wasn't my request. Hersfold did it and then an administator removed it. I trust hersfold as a good administrator and I'm confused, because normally administators don't undo another administator's actions. And still no one has properly answered the question. In reply to your messege I wouldn't want to participate in those articles anyway, because they just don't interest me; Wikipedia interests me. And by the way I've already been involced in other projects: My Wikimedia Commons account and my French Wikipedia account. All with good contributions and they were all before and during my current block. If it's not a matter of trusting me to not go out and vandalise then why am I still blocked and in my opinion no one here has any intention of unblocking me. I feel that the administrators just want to turn a blind eye and get rid of me by trying to get me onto other projects. I had this before... "come back in a month and try again" ...yeah, because that worked. bsrboy (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It might have if you had not created a sockpuppet account and used it to evade your block during that month. Aleta ^Sing 15:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It "might have", so no basically? bsrboy (talk) 15:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

If I had meant "no", that's what I would have said. If you had complied with what you were told a month ago, you probably would have been given a second chance now. As it is, you continue to abuse any trust the community has. Aleta ^Sing 16:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Am I allowed to log out and edit using my IP address? I haven't done that by the way, but feel free to do a checkuser for the hell of it. You never know, I might have told the truth? bsrboy (talk) 15:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

No. Bsrboy, if you seriously want to be unblocked and allowed to edit, stop all editing at en.wikipedia for a few months. Do not edit under any username or with any IP. By all means, continue to make good faith edits on other wikimedia projects. Show that you can comply with what has been asked of you. Then and only then come back and request an unblock. Aleta ^Sing 16:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

One month will do. Email me after a month, I will check you haven't edited then undo the block. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

But other Administators say a few months. bsrboy (talk) 16:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about that. Only one admin is needed to unblock someone. I will do it I assure you. Email me if I forget. But not if you sock or edit using an IP account. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, Theresa, this is a checkuser block. Be careful. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 18:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

There you are at last. What do you mean by "checkuser block"? You keep saying it and it's annoying me... bsrboy (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

He's referring to the fact that you were blocked by someone with checkuser status based upon checkuser findings about your account(s) and ip. Aleta ^Sing 20:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sure Theresa is already aware of it, but why does she need to be careful? bsrboy (talk) 20:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)a

Because unblocking a checkuser block without proper consultation pretty much guarantees the loss of admin status. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll risk it. I've never known anyone lose adminship based on good faith attempts to turn around a user and give him a second chance, and quite frankly if it came to that I'd rather lose an admin bit than live in fear of losing it. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

What's proper consultation and if Theresa loses admin status for unblocking me then Wikipedia's administation can go suck my balls. Please don't punish me for incivility, I just want to make a statement. bsrboy (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't make statements like that. It's needlessly agressive Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmmmmm it's tempting. I think I'll choose the deal. I've already got past one painful month. I could probably manage another one. If I upload images on Wikimedia Commons is there anyway I can request them to be included in a particular English Wikipedia article i.e a noticeboard or via email to a user involved in the article? bsrboy (talk) 16:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

No! You have to win us over by not editing here. The fact that you are already contemplating trying to get round some way is worrying. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

But I can't get around the checkuser anyway. In a month's time when I reapply you can do a checkuser and find that I've behaved myself. I'll try and lower my edits done to this page in the meantime. When I said "Hmmmmmmm it's tempting" I was refering to your propsal, not about sockpupeting, although come to mention it sockpupetting is quite tempting too, but I've decided not to and I'll stick by it. bsrboy (talk) 22:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

For what it's worth, should the consensus be to unblock you at some point down the line, I'd be willing to adopt you to get you back into a favourable position within the editting community. --Jza84 |  Talk  12:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thank you very much. I'd love to be adopted by you and I'm sorry about the multiple accounts; I couldn't tell anyone who I really was, because I know I would've got blocked. P.S on the Cornwood article you left out an apostrophe on "Cornwoods" in your latest edit and this article might add more information on the Railway Station. Thank you once again, and sorry! bsrboy (talk) 15:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Go away for a month. Starting now! Do not create any new sockpuppets and do not try to edit not logged in. If you do this then I am willing to give you another chance. Fail to do so though and I'm outta here. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't tell me to go away for a month. I'm not that stupid; I fell for that trick last time. And you lost, because I helped contribute to Wikipedia, which is what you are trying to stop. bsrboy (talk) 16:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

How is creating a sockpuppet account complying with staying away for a month. The reason you were not unblocked is because you did nothing to earn people's trust. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

How dare you say such a thing! I have not done nothing to earn people's trust. Have you looked at all the links above of all my contributions. You call over 500 edits nothing!? bsrboy (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

May I point out this rule to you? P.S SPAM link added here to the article on Devon. bsrboy (talk) 16:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Can someone please help me out with this!?

Firstly you should understand the situation. "Your request to be unblocked was~". It wasn't my request. Hersfold did it and then an administator removed it. I trust hersfold as a good administrator and I'm confused, because normally administators don't undo another administator's actions. And still no one has properly answered the question. In reply to your messege I wouldn't want to participate in those articles anyway, because they just don't interest me; Wikipedia interests me. And by the way I've already been involced in other projects: My Wikimedia Commons account and my French Wikipedia account. All with good contributions and they were all before and during my current block. If it's not a matter of trusting me to not go out and vandalise then why am I still blocked and in my opinion no one here has any intention of unblocking me. I feel that the administrators just want to turn a blind eye and get rid of me by trying to get me onto other projects. I had this before... "come back in a month and try again" ...yeah, because that worked. bsrboy (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

But you didn't go away for a month. You created a sockpuppet to evade your block. Aleta ^Sing 16:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

(Re added. He has a point which you dod not address. Please do not remove his post) Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Fine I wont remove it, but can someone please help me out/tell me what the hell happened in the first section of this text? (If people add useless comments to this section then I'll created another section just like this until someone helps me). bsrboy (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks like since you added a list of reasons you think you should be unblocked that Hersfold added the template so another administrator would evaluate the request. Your list of reasons was in effect a request, but he made it formal. Aleta ^Sing 16:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :) bsrboy (talk) 16:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Aleta ^Sing 16:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I've received your email. When and if that account will be unblocked, it may revert everything itself. MaxSem^{(Han shot first!)} 19:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, although I was refering to this account (I was going to move everything on The Vandal Warrior's talk page here). Thanks bsrboy (talk) 19:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ban/Block

You are blocked indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts. This block is made on you the individual, not just on this account. Therefore you may not edit Wikipedia with any other account or IP. An indef block, until challenged by another administrator has the same effect as a ban. MBisanz ^talk 16:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear! You agree to stay away fro a month and the next day you come back and put a swastika on your talk page! That's it I'm done: no unblock from me. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)