Talk:Zombies 2

Latest comment: 2 years ago by InvadingInvader in topic Ratings in the lead section

Release Date? edit

Is there a way to source a release date without a news article, verified youtube channel, etc.? Disney's official youtube channel released a new preview video for the movie today that dropped the release date: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-7W9KSi5o

However, the channel is not verified (which unless I'm WP:Youtube wrong, a channel being verified channels are usually necessary to verify it being reliable in topics like this in order to guarantee it isn't going to have copyright issues) though it is indeed the official channel for the show. (It is linked to by their verified twitter pages, facebook pages, etc.)

To my knowledge, Disney does not host these videos on their own site, which makes it hard to source the video, as this IS their official source, so we won't find it on Disney.com or such, and no reliable news outlet tends to report on things like this.

Just thought I'd mention why people keep editing in February 14th, 2020 as the release date (not me, by the way), since I'm sure more people are going to keep doing it. It's possible a news site will pick it up *eventually*, but if not, you might want to get ready to revert edits until then or protect the page until then, unless the youtube video is indeed considered reliable, in which case, feel free to use it as a reference. 2600:1700:B5D0:E480:9D59:D19:9626:350F (talk) 04:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Poster edit

Could someone please add a poster because I do not know how do it with committing a copywrite violation.--2601:206:300:9DC0:D7D:2714:D:9E32 (talk) 02:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Regarding reverted edits edit

@IJBall: I've noticed you've reverted this edit of mine, can I know how is that problematic? I've added vital information to the article's lead such as the film's genre and other main stars. I also tried to shorten the plot summary since it is said to be too long and added a DVD format release. I don't think those are "problematic edits" and I request further explanation or your removal.

Reverted Edit on 2/23/2022 edit

Amaury Regarding your revert of my addition to the article today; I find many of the arguments you made to be preposterous and not defending a complete revert of my edit. With regard to styling and marketing, we'll resolve that dispute over on the talk page of the first film. Speaking of which, do please respond to such discussion when you get a chance. Ratings do belong in the lead; they establish if a movie, show, or whatever is popular, was well-received, and if it was a money-maker for the studio. The removal of such information is NOT WP:TRIVIA at all. Popular DCOMs on Wikipedia like Descendants (2015 film) and High School Musical already list viewership records; why not this one? This is also to mention that many other articles all relating to movies treat revenue, viewership, and reception as something that should be mentioned in the lead and elaborated in other sections; Return of the Jedi, The Lego Movie, The Dark Knight Rises, Squid Game, even sporting events like Super Bowl LVI and songs as popular as Drivers License (song) or We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together note each subjects' popularity and ratings. While I would be in favor of abbreviating my edit, it should NOT be completely removed. Additionally, two small points should not constitute as an entire revert. Everything else wasn't deserving of a full revert. InvadingInvader (talk) 18:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ratings in the lead section edit

Recently, I attempted to expand the lead to contain ratings information on the views that the movie got on its premiere. Upon being reverted, the editors who opposed my revision stated tat MOS:TVLEAD states that leads should not include ratings information. After reviewing MOS:TVLEAD (TVLLEAD from hereon out), I found not only that TVLEAD never specifically said that ratings don't belong in the lead but that the lead paragraph should contain essential information, which I interpret to be ratings. Statistics from sources I found (which currently exist in the present revision of the article) show the movie got 2.47 million viewers initially on its premiere, slightly less than the first film; I hope to at least allude to such information in the lead without The solution I propose is to allude to the number by saying that Zombies 2 lagged behind the original in primetime views but that it still gained nearly two and a half million of them. I believe that ratings, if a reliable source can be found that states such ratings, should be alluded to or summarized in the lead with at maximum a sentence referring to them, while elaborating on records, demographics, and other information down in the Reception section. I hope that we can at least all agree on that. InvadingInvader (talk) 00:30, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply