Talk:TotalTV (Canadian TV provider)

Requested move 29 October 2020

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The result of the move request was: No consensus with no good options. (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 15:57, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

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Zazeen → TOTALTV – As Zazeen has officially changed its name to TOTALTV, this page needs to be renamed. This change can be easily validated by viewing the original Zazeen website at www.zazeen.com which has been rebranded to TOTALTV. NRG3K (talk) 06:11, 29 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. O.N.R. ^(talk) 05:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Move elsewhere, possibly Total TV. Sources have not yet settled on capitalization, and per MOS:TMRULES, we shouldn't use all caps without sources. The alternate option TotalTV is currently taken by a satellite provider, so multiple moves may need to take place. (As an aside, the page has already been moved to allcaps TOTALTV as of the point I type this; as the RM came first, the move was malformed.) O.N.R. ^(talk) 13:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

• I note that the articles TotalTV, Total TV (if moved there) and Total TV, Inc., have very similar names and topics (cable/satellite/IPTV services). Perhaps there is a need for even more disambiguation among them. Sammi Brie (t • c) 18:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

• Absolutely. We could get by with hatnotes for now, but disambiguating the three will happen eventually. O.N.R. ^(talk) 14:51, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per MOS:ALLCAPS, MOS:TM and WP:TITLETM. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Considering that the sourcing of the article is poor, I think we should just apply ordinary English formatting. Lots of companies use all-caps or all-lowercase branding, which is routinely converted to mixed case by independent reliable sources. Similar branding examples for television subscription services are DIRECTV and dish. Wikipedia uses DirecTV, so my suggestion is TotalTV (Canada) or TotalTV (Canadian television service). If the company/service is not really notable, the article should just be deleted. — BarrelProof (talk) 14:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• In the terms of use the website does use this capitalization to but what about independent sources? Is WP:NAMECHANGES satisfied? Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:43, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
• Relisted by involved editor. I know this is an unusual move, but I can't close as a participant and no one else has tried to close, so I'm relisting to "bump" the discussion. O.N.R. ^(talk) 05:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Post-close personal comment: Anyone inclined to make a new proposal should consider a multi-RM to harmonise the various similar titles at Total TV. BegbertBiggs (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 5 December 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 18:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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• Zazeen → TotalTV (Canadian TV provider)
• TotalTV → TotalTV (Serbian TV provider)
• Total TV, Inc. → Total TV (American TV provider)
• Total TV (India) → Total TV (Indian TV channel)

– Allow for the move of Zazeen to its new common name, using mixed capitalization per MOS:TMRULES, while harmonizing the various titles at the disambiguation page Total TV, some of which need further disambiguation from each other. Sammi Brie (t • c) 01:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support a WP:CONSISTENT format for all these titles. BegbertBiggs (talk) 01:29, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.