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- "Zaculeu was first occupied in the Early Classic Period (AD 250–600), and the buildings from this era show the influence of Teotihuacán." - an adjective describing what Teotihuacán is would help. Also, what specifically is meant by "influence of Teotihuacán"?
- "Zaculeu has been used as a ceremonial site by Mam Maya continuously to the present." - does the phrase "continuously to the present" mean it is still used in 2010 by Mam Maya? Later in the article it states "Zaculeu was abandoned".
- -Zaculeu was abandoned, however the ancient remains still have significance for modern Maya, and modern Maya shamans regularly perform rites among the ruins - as they do at ruins throughout Guatemala. Simon Burchell (talk) 06:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- There are numerous mentions of Mexico in reference to something that took place long before there was a Mexico.
- For example, "Zaculeu again came under the influence of central Mexico in the Late Classic... - Mexico is a modern country that was created well after the Late Classic period.
- In the literature, Mexico is used to refer to the Valley of Mexico and the various ancient peoples resident there (i.e. the area around modern Mexico city). In archaeological publications Mexican influence usually means the influence of cities such as Teotihuacan or Tenochtitlan that were occupied in the valley or the surrounding area of central Mexico, see for example the articles on Seibal and Tikal, which also refer to Mexican influence. The modern name of Mexico is derrived from the Mexica people that lived in the Valley at the time of the Spanish Conquest(the Aztecs). I've clarified this somewhat in the article. Simon Burchell (talk) 06:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- In 'Spanish conquest', "...in October of that year." - is this referring to 1525?
- Yes, 1525, I've tweaked the article to make this specific. Simon Burchell (talk) 08:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- In 'Spanish conquest', "...and it is said that the survivors were..." - this is passive voice. Who said it?
- Plaza 1 is the main plaza... - why no such description of Plazas 2-8?
- There is a list of Structures. Why no mention of Structures 5, 7, 8, 14, 18, 19, 20? And why such uneven descriptions of the Structures (some are much more detailed than others)
- The reference An archaeological guide to northern Central America: Belize, Guatemala ... By Joyce Kelly (pages 203 and on) seems to have additional information regarding the layout and other plazas. It may not provide measurements but provides an idea of the layout. I think the map image is communicated what is trying to be said in the article using a list. A Guide to Ancient Maya Ruins By C. Bruce Hunter (page 193) may also help. --maclean (talk) 05:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- I should have spotted that in Kelly! Thanks - I've added plaza details as a text description of Kelly's map.Simon Burchell (talk) 08:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Etymology and locationEdit
The etimology for both Mam and Q'anjob'al maya was not accurate. In Mam language, "Earth" is twitz tx'otx' and "Soil" is tx'otx'. In Q'anjob'al language is Yib'an q'inal and tx'otx'ej, respectively. I made such distinction, since in Mayan languages the words for Earth and soil aren't interchangeable, as opposed to Indoeuropean counterparts.
- Maya' Choltzij: Vocabulario comparativo, Oxlajuuj Keej Maya' Ajtz'iib', Cholsamaj, 2003