Talk:William M. Ellinghaus

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk10:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 01:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
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QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thank you for a solid, reliable article about a solid, reliable chap. The article is fine, but I cannot pass it for DYK so long as the above objection stands. Can you find another hook which centres on Ellinghaus himself?

I cannot access the New York Times sources due to the paywall, but I am very curious about his marriage in his late 80s so soon after his lifetime marriage ended. OK, a lowest-common-denominator hook, but - was she a bimbo after his money? Should your hook show very boringly that she was not, that would at least answer the question. He as an individual was boss of AT&T when it broke up - now there's a story? Or perhaps more heroically(?) he personally troubleshot the 1971 strike. Or perhaps less questionably he restored service after the fire?

Anyway, there are surely some hooks out there. When we can get an acceptable hook, this nom should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 21:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

  • @Storye book and Epicgenius: -- the text that I have from NYT is He led the communications giant when it settled an antitrust suit in the 1980s, not long after he helped save New York City in the fiscal crisis of the ’70s. in the strapline and Besides helping to rescue New York City from near bankruptcy in the 1970s, Mr. Ellinghaus became the executive vice president of the New York Stock Exchange; chairman of the New York-area PBS station WNET; and chairman of the New York Chamber of Commerce and Industry. So, to Epicgenius' point -- My thinking is that this is indeed individually attributable to him. Thoughts? Ktin (talk) 01:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • @Ktin: Excellent. Now, please could you rewrite one of the hooks (or both) so that it reads that he did the deed as an individual? E.g. that American business executive William M. Ellinghaus helped to rescue ... etc.? Storye book (talk) 09:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
ALT 0.1: ... that American business executive William M. Ellinghaus helped rescue New York City from a fiscal crisis in the late 1970s? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/business/william-m-ellinghaus-dead.html
ALT 0.2: ... that American business executive William M. Ellinghaus rescued New York City from a fiscal crisis in the late 1970s? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/business/william-m-ellinghaus-dead.html
ALT 1.1: ... that American business executive William M. Ellinghaus helped rescue New York City from bankruptcy in the late 1970s? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/business/william-m-ellinghaus-dead.html
ALT 1.2: ... that American business executive William M. Ellinghaus rescued New York City from bankruptcy in the late 1970s? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/business/william-m-ellinghaus-dead.html
ALT1.1 to T:DYK/P4