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Legacy Content/WWE Video LibraryEdit

I changed the name of WWE Libraries to Legacy Content. WWE refers to the video library to legacy content. WWE mentions the video library department as the legacy content team in the article about the last battle of Atlanta on WWE.COM. The link is here: http://www.wwe.com/classics/last-battle-of-atlanta-rich-sawyer. WWE lists job offers in the video library department under legacy content.

Bullying and Hazing Allegations Secions is Too LongEdit

This section entirely revolves around one wrestler. This belongs on his page and more allegations should be added from other sources if such a topic needs it's own section. If it must remain this needs to be reduced.

ToonIsALoon (talk) 14:29, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:WWE for deletionEdit

 

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Capitol Wrestling started in 1953 not 1952!Edit

Can somebody please fix this? This mistake is here for years now and it is simply not true. The very first Show of the Capitol Corporation was on January 7, 1953 in Washington, DC --> https://www.genickbruch.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=309665

Also, the Founder was Vincent J. McMahon, not Jess McMahon and Toots Mondt. Toots operated his own company in New York and Jess McMahon run Wrestling Shows in the 1930s but never created his own company.

You can read all this information in this book. -> https://www.amazon.com/Capitol-Revolution-McMahon-Wrestling-Empire/dp/1770411240/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=tim+hornbaker&qid=1580008168&sr=8-2

Please can somebody fix this. Because I can't edit this page. TheAY1986 (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

If they held their first show on January 7, the company would have been founded at least a week earlier, putting its founding in 1952. First show does not equal founding date. oknazevad (talk) 22:44, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

The truth is that in every source you can find there is no exact date to when the company is started. It is only stated that he promoted his first show under the capitol banner on January 7. In fact, he first registered the "Capitol Wrestling Corporation" on August 5, 1957 at the local State Athletic Commision in Washington, DC and 1961 in New York. So there is no actual date whre you can say the company was "created" (if it ever was) prior to 1957. --> Capitol Revolution by Tim Hornbaker (pp 117, 146) TheAY1986 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

WWE sources state Jess McMahon founded Capitol Wrestling, Vince McMahon Sr's official profile. Unless you want to argue with WWE, then I'm pretty sure that is something to be taken into consideration. In addition, see the following, This, This and This source --Tærkast (Discuss) 20:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


Two official WWE Books also stated that Vincent J. McMahon founded the WWE. I included the sources in the article! Also a book from a Wrestling historian (Tim Hornbacker, who also wrote two more wrestling books) in which the whole history of the New York Territory is described, stated that it was found by Vincent J. McMahon.

You have one source from the WWE Page and two books in which in a subordinate clause it is mentions that Jess did it. I included all those sources and stated that there is some dispute óf who founded the company. Who are you that you can decide what is allowed on this article or not? Especially when there are clearly reliable sources who stated it otherwise!?

And there is absolutely no source everywhere to be found which said that the company whas founded on January 7, 1952. Every source you can find it is said January 7, 1953!


Here are the sources:

In Capitol Revolution from Tim Hornbaker [1] it is stated on page 117: "The character of McMahon's business was evident from day one, and, like his father, he was known for his honesty and integrity. He inaugurated his promotion on January 7, 1953, and booked his talent from several sorces, but mainly Mondt in New York."

WWE Legends from Brian Solomon [2] on page 6: "McMahon formed a company he called the Capitol Wrestling Corporation, and presented his first regular wrestling show under the Capitol banner on January 7, 1953. He set up his offices on the seventh floor of Washington's Franklin Park Hotel. At the time, he was using performers on his cards obtained from both Toots Mondt's booking office and the Carolinas office of Jim Crockett Sr."

In the WWE Encyclopedia of Sports Entertainment [3] it is stated under the profile of Vincent J. McMahon on page 372: "Upon arrival, Vince purchased a small dilapidated venue he later called Capitol Arena. On January 7, 1953, he put on the first-ever Capitol Wrestling Corporation event."

WWE 50 by Kevin Sullivan[4] on page 9: "McMahon eventually settled into Washington, D.C., where he began managing Turner's Arena in 1947. With McMahon calling the shots, the arena began attracting top stars from nearly every genre, including Nat King Cole, Louis Armstrong, Gorgeous George, and Bruno Sammartino. McMahon eventually assumed full control of the venue's lease in 1954 and subsequently renamed it Capitol Arena to coincide with his new wrestling promotion, Capitol Wrestling Corporaion."

On legacyofwrestling.com[5] it is stated "McMahon took over the reigns as the main promoter in Washington on January 7, 1953 and used the old Turner’s Arena. He would use wrestlers from Jack Pfefer’s stable early including The Zebra Kid and The Golden Terror. Booking out of the Franklin Park Hotel, McMahon established a strong east coast promotion."

The best way we can handle this dispute is if we write abouth this in the article like I did:

"WWE's origins can be traced back as far as 1953 when Vincent J. McMahon created the Capitol Wrestling Corporation Ltd. (CWC), which later joined the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA). Some sources however cites McMahons father Jess McMahon as founder of CWC." TheAY1986 (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

"You have one source from the WWE Page and two books in which in a subordinate clause it is mentions that Jess did it. I included all those sources and stated that there is some dispute óf who founded the company. Who are you that you can decide what is allowed on this article or not? Especially when there are clearly reliable sources who stated it otherwise!? - I never claimed to own the article, although your behaviour clearly indicates that you think you do. In addition, your "solution" is to state your point of view as absolute fact while presenting the alternative as merely a point of contention, or another theory. That does not address the wider issue, nor is it an actual compromise, at least, not in the correct sense of the word. It is self-evident that you will be disregarding alternative view points and sources, as long as you get your views in. It's not worth it to contend with someone who clearly views their contributions superior to others. Nothing is worth this hassle.--Tærkast (Discuss) 22:18, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

So what can we do then? Ignore all those sources who stated it was Vince. I dont think that that should be the ideology of wikipedia. TheAY1986 (talk) 22:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

"WWE's origins can be traced back as far as the 1950s when on January 7, 1953 the first show under the Capitol Wrestling Corporation (CWC) was produced. It is not certain of who the founder of the CWC was. There are sources who stated it was Vincent J. McMahon while other sources however cites McMahons father Jess McMahon as founder of CWC."

Can we please agree on that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAY1986 (talkcontribs) 22:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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