Talk:Volvo S40

These inline fives have been continually developed by Volvo since the debut of the engine in the 850, in 1993.

This is wrong, Volvo does not build his own engines, the engine in the 850 came from VW,Germany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.39.251.110 (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

very wrong. volvo indeed developed the alloy engine itself (with help from porsche) btu initially it was a 6 cylinder used in the 960--Lotsofmagnets (talk) 19:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

This article is one big mess. Help! Bravada, talk - 14:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Just so that you know - the standard is to have every infobox begin in the section which it pertains to, and list no more than three similar cars. Models listed in the "similar" field should be actually similar to the model in this way or another (save for related models, which should go in the "related" field), and not necessairly competitors. Bravada, talk - 17:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Station Wagon/Estate

I just noticed that somewone replaced the word estate with station wagon, why is that? --Dahlis 12:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Classification

This is a serious thing. This article has undergone lots of classifiaction reverts, many of them by me. From an European perspective, the Volvo S40 / V50 might be a small family car, a large family car or a compact executive car. We must decide which term to use and keep the decision... for all articles (like recent automobiles, classifiaction...).

The S40 and V50 has about the same size as a saloon or estate version of a Focus, Jetta, Mégane, Astra; a little smaller than a C-Class or 3 Series; and smaller than a 9-3, X-Type or 159. Its inner room and boot size are smaller than large family cars and more or less the same as its small family car sisters, the Focus and Mazda3 (and also similar to compact executive cars, since these use more room for the engine and less for the passeners and boot).

Its engine range is similar to those found in the 1 Series, A3 and Jetta; the most powerful one has only 225 hp, much less than the M3, S4 / RS4 and C-Class AMG (above 300 hp). Its pricing is closer to the Jetta (one of the most expensive small family cars) than large family cars. And the Volvo C30 is a hatchback version of the S40 saloon and V50 estate, the same as the Golf and Jetta are related. Therefore, in my opinion the S40 / V50 is a (premium) small family car, a direct rival to the Jetta and rumoured 1 Series and A3 saloons. Please, let's discuss this issue rather than revert any changes every few days. -- NaBUru38 16:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Cite reliable sources. EuroNCAP calls it a large family car in Europe,[1] while the EPA calls it a compact car or a "family sedan" in America.[2][3] --DeLarge 10:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Better late than never, I'm recovering some comments by web magazines I put in the Luxury vehicle discussion (now with some corrections and updates):

From What Car?: "The Volvo is not cheap for a small family car but the S40’s quality and high levels of standard equipment justify the price tag" [4], "[...] good enough to tempt buyers out of compact execs." [5] From Auto Express: "The S40 is a slightly strange car. Volvo say it has been designed to battle with the Audi A3 and BMW 1-Series, but the saloon bodystyle pushes it into the compact executive sector - competing with the BMW 3-Series, Audi A4 and... the Volvo S60!" [6] 4Car says on the S40 "It looks like a Volvo S60 - or does it? Volvo's new S40 is slightly smaller, fitting just below a BMW 3-Series while the S60 slots in above." [7] Besides, this page talks about the C30 as a "premium compact hatchback" and adds: "The Volvo C30 is that new car, designed to steal buyers from the A3, the BMW 1-Series and the Alfa 147 (or its replacement) [...] In essence the C30 is an S40 saloon with 22cm chopped off the tail, reclothed in a three-door body with all-new external sheet metal." [8] On the S60, 4Car writes: "Model-for-model, it's largely in line with the BMW 3 Series - a little dearer than an Audi A4, but cheaper than a Mercedes C-Class." [9]

Another hint: in Spain, the C-Class 200 CDI (122 hp) goes for € 34.250, the S60 2.4 D5 (126 hp) for € 31.400, the 318d (122 hp) for € 31.500 and the A4 2.0 TDI (140 hp) for € 31.600 — the C-Class is slightly better equipped than the other three. In contrast, a similarily equipped S40 2.0 D (136 hp) costs only € 28.700 and a Jetta 2.0 TDI (140 hp) costs € 26.400. [10]

Again, what I suggest is to refer to the Volvo C30, S40, V40 and V50 family as a premium small family car, the same as the Audi A3 and BMW 1 Series. Remember that saloon versions of the 1 Series and A3 are rumoured, cars that would compete directly against the S40. And I see the S60 as the "natural" compact executive car of Volvo' lineup, as it is sized, powered and priced similarly to the German trio, the Alfa Romeo 159, Lexus IS, Jaguar X-Type and Volvo 9-3. -- NaBUru38 16:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

It is uncertain what will happen with either the Volvo S40 or the Volvo S60 in the future.The crossover you describe lies in a different car segment than that of Volvo S40.Volvo XC60 will cost a little less than BMW X5 whereas the S40 costs a little less than BMW 3 Series.There is a price tag of 10000Euro.I expect you bring official references that support the case of dropping the S40.Until then the segment will be deleted or should be less definite adding that there are sources like the one or another that claim that fact... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.139.126 (talk) 07:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You are really kidding when telling that a Volvo's competitor is a Jetta!Then BMW 3 series should be considered a small familly car as it has similar length as the Jetta!And v50 is the competitor of 3series and C-class estates as the new V70 is an executive car! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.81.241 (talk) 22:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

WE dont need every term to categorize the car, use one not all terms... --— Typ932^{T | C}  23:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

estates in the title

the title of the article completekly ignores the estate version (V40 and V50) so perhaps it's an idea either to consider a separate article for the estates or a title that somehow reflects the range--Lotsofmagnets (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Euro vs NA spec

As with most car wikis the mixing of NA and Euro specs makes it very difficult for the reader to figure out which applies ti which region. Additionally, I notice there is no mention of the 2.4L gas engine available in NA. There almost needs to be separate pages if not at least separate sections to discuss the NA and euro cars. 108.172.114.141 (talk) 23:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Related cars

In what way is this car related to the Proton Waja/Impian or the Mitsubishi Carisma? Lukeno94 (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

The S40 and the Carisma went down the same NedCar production line during the 1990s which was jointly owned by Volvo and Mitsubishi, and presumably the Proton shared some Mitsubishi bits... Warren (talk) 15:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Didn't know about the production line, so thanks. The Waja was the first solely Proton-designed car that Proton did - the only thing it and the Carisma shared was the engines. Lukeno94 (talk) 16:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

What's going on with the V40 in the UK?

As far as this article mentions the V40 was replaced by the V50 in 2004. That's not in dispute...but why is there two large sales spikes for the V40 in the UK in 2008 for 1 year, and 2012-present. evidence here. I have a supplier saying that in 2012 a V40 Hatchback was launched, but i have nothing to explain 2008. It looks like the UK market V40/V50 is:

• V40 (Estate) 1995-2004
• V40 (?) 2008-2009
• V40 (Hatchback) 2012>

• V50 (Estate) 2004-2012

Hopefully someone can clear this up since the article can't. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 10:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• I'm not aware of any 2008-2009 Volvo V40s anywhere. I'm inclined to believe someone behind that source has mistyped V50 (or even S40), unless any more sources supporting an '08-'09 V40 appear. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 11:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I thought that at first, but i doubt the DVLA could make the same mistake 2900+ times. It's highly unlikely, especially as the V50 was facelifted on that year (2008) and a V40 model could have been attempted in hatchback form, just like in 2012. I've been racking my brain for 3 days over this...Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 11:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• Parkers makes no mention of a V40 in that timeframe, and nor does any mention of it appear in the relevant S40/V50 pages. A Google search doesn't turn up any images for a 2008 V40 or a 2009 V40 - they're clearly all older V40s, or newer ones, excluding the S40s and V50s that randomly get included (all V50s I've seen in there identify themselves as V50s.) I'm looking at Autotrader, and there's nothing listed there as a '08 or '09 V40. This kind of mistake, even on this scale, isn't that uncommon for the DVLA. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 12:33, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Heh, i'll accept that. You have just proved there is a 2012/13> V40 Hatchback for me though. Someone with the time should add that to the article.

Thanks a lot for looking into the matter Luke ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 14:06, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• The V40 hatchback has its own article, at Volvo V40. I didn't actually realize that you weren't aware of it! :) No problem with regards to helping. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I've added a differntiator at the top of this article to clear that up for others. Feel free to reword it, but i kept it as simple as possible. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 17:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• I've cleaned it up. Note: next time you use one of these, don't write "see" at the end of the sentence, the template will do that for you. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 18:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I thought i used "show preview" first and read it to be honest. Thanks for rewording ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 13:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

• If you're anything like me, well, I tend to miss things in show preview anyway. And not a problem :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:04, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Split into S40 and V40/V50

The S60 and V70 have separate pages, so I think the V40/V50 should have their own page as well. The estate/station wagon version sold substantially more than the sedan and had different drivetrain choices in various markets. Is there any reason to keep them together?Ryanneve (talk) 19:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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Engines

I'm having really hand time finding anything about the 1.6 turbo petrol engine that this page claims was installed from 2010. Linked source is down, archive of that source shows no evidence of that engine, owners manual says nothing about this engine in this car. Also the D5 and 2.0D engines are missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr-fix (talk • contribs) 22:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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I'm having an issues with the following statement: "In the US, the manual (6-speed) transmission was only available on the V50 in 2006, 2007 and 2010 and only with AWD and R-line trim." where-as I own a 2006 s40 T5 2.5 Turbo w/ 6 Speed Manual AWD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:87C2:A900:CD36:91DE:D979:D130 (talk) 03:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)