Talk:Vladimir II Monomakh

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Monomakh, Emperor of Russia?

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I read this in "The Empire of Russia" from John S. C. Abbott: "The metropolitan bishop of Ephesus, who was sent with these presents, was authorized, in the name of the church and of the empire, to place the crown upon the brow of Monomaque in gorgeous coronation in the cathedral church of Kief, and to proclaim Monomaque Emperor of Russia. This crown, called the golden bonnet of Monomaque, is still preserved in the Museum of Antiquities at Moscow." Skeeter08865 (talk) 14:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yes his ancestry matters, as he used it in his endeavors and it is the basis of his nickname. 217.140.193.123 12:19, 17 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Has the user Ghirlandajo some knowledge about Vladimir's maternal grandfather Constantine IX being a descendant of emperors? which emperors? Arrigo 13:29, 17 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

I've seen some online sources that give his mother's name as Irene or Irina; those seem like romanisations of the same name. I found a redirect from an Irene Monomakhine entry to Monomakhin (now to this entry, to avert double redirect) so it makes me curious on what grounds his mother is thought to be anonymous. TECannon 08:24, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

There is not a single contemporary source naming his mother, except a much later synodic which names her as Anastasia. Other names - including Irina, Anna, and Maria - are mere speculations by modern researchers. --Ghirlandajo 12:51, 21 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
That's really interesting. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! TECannon 14:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sister of Vladimir

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The next to last paragraph states: "Vladimir's only sister Praxedis became too well-known all over Europe for her divorce with Emperor Henry IV on the ground that he had attempted a black mass on her naked body".

While the page for Vladimir's father, Vsevolod, states: "In 1067 Vsevolod's Greek wife died and he soon married a Kypchak princess. She brought him another son, who drowned after the Battle of the Stugna River, and two daughters, one becoming a nun and another Holy Roman Empress i.e consort of monarch of Germany".

On Henry IV's page Eupraxia is also identified as Vsevolod's only daughter.

If Vsevolod's page is correct this would make Praxedis (Eupraxia - spelling variation?) a half-sister and furthermore not an only sister.

Can someone with more knowledge of this subject than I possess please make the appropriate changes?

Thanks.

Wife "Anastasia"

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There is no reliable primary source that attests who her father was. She is known to be Greek/Byzantine, she is known to be a "kinswoman" of the Emperor. She is *not* known to be his daughter specifically. Wjhonson (talk) 23:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have changed the test here - it cited Kazhdan as saying she was Anastasia, daughter of Constantine, but he does not do so. He indicates that such a traditions arose adn that late chronicles would assign a name to her, but that this solution is not well-supported, and: "Thus we do not know who Vsevolod's spouse was. Only in sixteenth- and seventeenth-century Russian texts does she appear as Constantine IX's daughter. It would be more prudent to assume that Vsevolod was married to a lady from the house of the Monomachoi, a relative of Constantine IX", and later in his conclusion section, "Anastasia-Maria was not Constantine IX's daughter." One gets the distinct impression he is using this name for her simply to represent that she has been assigned these two different names, not that she had a double name. Agricolae (talk) 00:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

death

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How did he die? 71.191.109.39 (talk) 03:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

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