Talk:Viktor Sonnenfeld

Latest comment: 10 years ago by SadarMoritz in topic Jewish

Jewish edit

Viktor Sonnenfelds Jewish heritage is backed up by a Croatian source written by known Croatian historian Zlata Živaković-Kerže, who specialises in Croatian-Jewish history. Soon I will add another source, from the book, that claims Sonnenfelds Jewish heritage. I don't know why User:FreeRangeFrog is removing sourced information, and adding unsourced one. --SadarMoritz (talk) 11:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

@SadarMoritz: Please provide an accessible source (Google books, or whatever) in any Romantic language, that clearly identifies the subject as having Jewish heritage. My source is a member of the subject's family, and evidence contradicting the claim that he was buried in a Jewish cemetery. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Source is provided on his Wikipedia page, it is the the official site of town Osijek (www.osijek.hr). Soon I will provide more sources. Sorry, but sources I know him-his family are not accepted on Wikipedia. With regards,--SadarMoritz (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Actually, it is a contradicting source, primary at that, but nonetheless valid in the same sense that in cases where someone writes to us saying "my birth date is wrong" and they provide a copy of their passport: We can remove the birth date but not add it. So in this case the Jewish heritage is contradictory to what a member of the subject's family is telling us. I've asked them to allow permission to disclose the grave photograph they provided, but we'll have to wait until they do. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 23:57, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Grave photograph doesn't prove anything, certainly it is not a realiable source that he is not of Jewish heritage. Grave site was listed because in Croatian daily Glas Slavonije there was an article some time ago that stated his Jewish heritage and grave site. Do you have any other source that denies his Jewish heritage, and claims he is a Roman Catholic? Even the self-published sources are not permited on Wikipedia, unless you provide a realiable proof, and photo of a grave site can hardly be such proof. With regards, --SadarMoritz (talk) 01:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)Reply