Talk:Uptown Girl

Billy Joel ONLY

This page is supposed to be about the BILLY JOEL song, the "Westlife version" should get it's own page, or be put under "notable covers." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.231.176 (talk) 01:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Music Video

Were there any more versions of the opening other than MTV and Friday Night Videos? I know of these versions personally since I have the actual tapes to document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.39.80 (talk) 09:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

There was another video produced, possibly just in the UK as when it appeared on Top of the Pops it was not the video of the mechanics in the garage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.2.57.146 (talk) 20:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Can anybody verify the #99 claim on the rolling stone list?????? i cant find it anywhere else on the web — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.231.175 (talk) 22:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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Joel makes reference to Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice in the song.

Is this the line "When my ship comes it?"

While that line is in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice, I'll bet 99% of the people use that line are not referencing the Merchant of Venice. . .

What supports that Merchant of Venice was his source for the line, and that he had not heard the line in daily conversation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.144.40 (talk) 08:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Rock or pop

Since this song seems very reminiscent of The Four Seasons, I suggest that this song's genre be changed to "rock". Not only does it sound much like a Four Seasons record, it also has a sort of backbeat to it, making it rock music. Thus, the article's given genre of "pop rock" doesn't make much sense. Why would anybody think this song is just a "pop rock" song? Perhaps it doesn't have things like electric guitar solos? Doesn't necessarily mean it's not a rock song. 69.121.17.200 (talk) 12:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

As I've mentioned before, I disagree with the change of category you are suggesting for this article. I don't believe either the song "Uptown Girl" by Billy Joel, or the music of Franki Valli and the Four Seasons which inspired it, fit the label of "rock." The pop music category that was already provided seems a much more accurate a description to me. Perhaps, early pop/rock would a better description. But straight-ahead "rock" music is typically much louder with more emphasis of prominent guitars and drums and inspired or imitative of the electric blues (i.e. bands like Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, The Who etc.). I think that the allmusic guide by Rovi does an excellent job of explaining these different categories in more depth.Jpcohen (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

References

Still, I disagree a bit here. For instance, songs by The Four Seasons, particularly "Walk Like a Man", "Ronnie", and "Rag Doll", characterize what you've described rock music as being. That being said, if The Four Seasons' music should not be considered rock music, the music of The Beatles (at least a large chunk of it, anyway) should not be either. Excluding the beat music influences from The Beatles' native England, their music isn't far removed from that of the Seasons. The Beatles have largely been touted as a rock band, yet music by both The Beatles and The Four Seasons sounded like solid gold oldies to me. Believe me, I have come across people who have said that The Beatles were not a real rock band and that The Rolling Stones are the greatest rock band of all time, while still liking The Beatles better. Does this help at all? 69.121.17.200 (talk) 22:08, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

This is going off on a bit of a tangent here. But in response to your last comment, I would say that The Beatles wrote and performed both rock and pop songs. For instance, songs like "Revolution" and "Yer Blues" were Beatles songs that were clearly rock. And songs like "When I'm 64" and "Hello Goodbye" were Beatles songs that were clearly pop. So The Beatles did both. Stylistically, they were really all over the map.

As far as The Four Seasons go, I would say that a song like "Rag Doll," which you call "rock," is not really a "rock" song at all by my definition (or by any definition that I'm familiar with). It's pop. And there's nothing wrong with that. Calling it a pop song is not a criticism. It's just a more accurate classification.Jpcohen (talk) 02:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration for the song

Billy first thought of the song when he surrounded by Christie Brinkley, Elle Macpherson, and Whitney Houston

The text suggests Claudia Schaffer appeared in the Joel video. Wasn’t it Christie Brinkley as per the photo? Claudia Schaffer was in the Westlife video, wasn’t she?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jL5dmEAo0c — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.170.17 (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Composition

This song has song interesting stuff going on in the song. The song is mainly in the key of E Major; however, the pre-chorus is in C Major, the chorus is in A Major, and the bridge is in b minor. Because Joel said that the song was inspired by Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons’ music, it uses these interesting key changes that we don’t see in today’s pop music anymore. I I think that it’d be useful to include a composition section in the article to discuss the song’s key changes. KevinML (talk) 10:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Westlife part

Its bigger than all of the content for the original version. I dont see the need of that. KhlavKhalash (talk) 11:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)