Talk:Tunnel Railway

Earliest underground railways?

"Except for its two stations—one at each end of the tunnel—the line ran entirely underground, making Ramsgate only the third settlement in Britain (after London and Glasgow) to have an underground railway system."

Surely this is pre-dated by both the Clifton Rocks Railway, an entirely underground funicular of 1893, and also the Mersey Railway of 1886? Andy Dingley (talk) 00:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a case of where one draws the line; remove it if you think it's confusing. Technically, even the Metropolitan Line itself is predated as an "underground railway system" by assorted mining railways; the Mersey Railway is predated by the 1865 line in the Thames Tunnel (now part of London, thanks to urban sprawl, but at that time still in Surrey and Middlesex). I was thinking in terms of stand-alone metro/premetro systems, as opposed to the heavy-rail systems like the Mersey Railway (the Clifton Rocks Railway was more of a diagonal elevator than a true railway IMO). I agree the wording is unclear. – iridescent 02:35, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Rename "Tunnel Railway" -> "Ramsgate tunnel railway"?

Wouldn't it be better to mention Ramsgate in the title, Tunnel Railway seems too general. pgr94 (talk) 12:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Tunnel Railway was its official name and so we treat it as a proper noun and capitalise it. if we ever get to a point of needing Tunnel Railway (disambiguation), then (as there's no clear "first tunnel railway" of that name) it should probably move to Tunnel Railway, Ramsgate. "Ramsgate tunnel railway" is wrong as it loses the capitalisation and it's also awkward to make wikilinks to from elsewhere. A good disambiguated name supports easy use of the pipe trick to make a likely useful short-form wl. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

OK I didn't realise it was a proper noun. Nevertheless it's still a little vague for my taste, but I'll go with the flow. pgr94 (talk) 13:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The article is graced by a large photograph which ought to make it abundantly clear what the name of the line was. – iridescent 19:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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