Talk:Training Season

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that training season begins on 15 February? Source: Billboard
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of songs recorded by Ben&Ben
  • Comment: 15 Feb is the release date

Converted from a redirect by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 13:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Training Season; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• General eligibility:
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• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

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• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough (redirect created on January 24, converted from redirect on January 25) and long enough (1757 characters of readable prose) with no copyright issues picked up by Earwig. The hook is interesting and verified by the given ref. QPQ was done so I think everything is good to go. -- ZooBlazer 04:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

The language of this hook implies something sports related. Might I suggest something like ALT1: ...that Dua Lipa premeired Training Season at the 66th Grammy Awards? Source: [1]NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 02:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

NightWolf1223, I know. Really makes you want to click and find out what it is about, right? ALT0 is an example of the type of creative click bait that is allowed at DYK.—NØ 03:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

As the reviewer, I liked the click bate use. It was well done, which is why I didn't say anything about it. As long as it's allowed at DYK, I still standby it. -- ZooBlazer 22:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that this style of hook was allowed. At any rate, I would like a new review. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 23:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I made a comment about this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Template:Did you know nominations/Training Season, but per WP:DYKSO (The hook should not put emphasis on a commercial release date of the article subject, but simply listing a hook on a specific date does not, in and of itself, make a hook promotional) I don't think this hook is appropriate. No issue with the special date request in and of itself, but even if the hook wasn't overly clickbaity, the current hook is too promotional and puts unnecessary emphasis on a commercial release date. - Aoidh (talk) 05:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

In that case, @MaranoFan: do you have any alt hook suggestions and I can just restart the review? -- ZooBlazer 05:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for sticking by this nomination, ZooBlazer. I'm not a fan of ALT1 due to the lack of interestingness. I guess a more decent hook can be created by applying WP:CALC to the gap between the Grammys premiere and official release date. If this doesn't work, I honestly have no idea.

• ALT2: ...that Dua Lipa premiered Training Season at the 66th Grammy Awards, 11 days before its official release?

--NØ 06:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Works for me. My previous review still applies. This new hook is cited in the article, so everything is hopefully good to go this time. -- ZooBlazer 06:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Any source regarding "interpolation"?

Is there not at least one source explaining that Martina Sorbara, Nick Gale, Shaun Frank, Steve Mastroianni, and Yaakov Gruzman are credited as writers because the song supposedly interpolates their song "Tokyo Nights"? Jvaspad (talk) 23:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)