Talk:Tom Williams (outfielder/pitcher)

Requested move 10 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Tom Williams (outfielder/pitcher). There is a strong consensus to move, but no consensus where exactly. This title had a certain qualified support and no opposition, so there you go. No such user (talk) 10:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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Tom Williams (outfielder) → ? – incomplete disambiguation; Tom Williams (Negro leagues) was also a baseball player Joeykai (talk) 01:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. Original proposal was Tom Williams (baseball) → Tom Williams (outfielder) (which was carried out). -Killarnee (C•T•U) 02:47, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

• Strong support per nom, and possibly a Speedy uncontroversial move. We don't typically do "WP:PARTIALDAB / partial primary topics" very often, and even if we did, this ONE-SENTENCE stub wouldn't be the partial-primary over the other baseball player. Thus, "Tom Williams" should 100% redirect to the dab page. ...Also, the fact that this the white player is at the "(baseball)" title but the Negro-leagues player is relegated to the "(Negro leagues)" disambiguator, sort-of has the INCREDIBLY UNFORTUNATE accidental side-effect of making it seems like it Wikipedia feels that the white player is the """real""" baseball player — which, while obviously not at all intended, but definitely a horrific consequence. (This could honestly 100% be a Speedy uncontroversial move – it might be wise to move this as soon as possible!) Paintspot Infez (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nomination and Paintspot Infez. Incomplete disambiguation, indeed. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 09:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
• Move to something else. Since he's both a pitcher and outfielder, and (according to the Baseball Reference link) had more games as a pitcher than an outfielder, I think "(outfielder)" would not accurate. How about Tom Williams (Cleveland Spiders), or Tom Williams (1890s baseball), or some other alternative? Adumbrativus (talk) 03:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• Comment Relist per Adumbrativus and thus change the request -Killarnee (C•T•U) 03:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

• To clarify, the original proposal was "Tom Williams (baseball) → Tom Williams (outfielder)", which was carried out.

• Comment. I don't think that this title should be change because in baseball reference there is strongly mentioned that he is pitcher and oufielder.Fade258 (talk) 05:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
• Per WP:NCBASE it would be appropriate to name the article Tom Williams (National League) which would make it more in line with the Negro Leagues player. The fact that he played both pitcher and outfielder makes it a bit more difficult. Spanneraol (talk) 13:50, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
• Move to Tom Williams (outfielder/pitcher). This style is also used for John Coleman (outfielder/pitcher). 162 etc. (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support this option. Apparently there is a decent number of existing baseball articles following this "(position1/position2)" convention. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.