Talk:The Eras Tour

Latest comment: 8 days ago by HorrorLover555 in topic "Associated albums" list in infobox

"Associated albums" list in infobox edit

Opening up a discussion here, as I think it is beneficial to list the specific associated albums in the infobox, even if it is under a collapsible list. Easier for readers since this information can be written here, instead of leading the reader to a separate article. (lists displayed are only expanded by default here for visualisation purposes)

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The Eras Tour
Associated albums
The Eras Tour
Associated albums

It might be disputable if Taylor Swift should be included in this list — it is included in all promotional material, such as the poster and the concert film trailer, but its songs are not included in the set list, and have only been performed as surprise songs on selected shows. Also, including the original versions of Fearless, Speak Now, Red and 1989 is probably unnecessary — it could be assumed that the Taylor's Versions are the only versions of the album that are promoted, even if it was not initially released when the tour began.

(notifying @Ippantekina: for discussion purposes!) Theknine2 (talk) 05:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

"it could be assumed" is WP:OR. I prefer "Various" because debut also got some songs for some nights, and the murky distinction between "Taylor's Version" and the original should not be there as it could confuse some readers. The bolded acts in the "Concert synopsis" section and the "Set list" section should suffice. Ippantekina (talk) 06:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Every album that Taylor has re-recorded replaces the original version. This is a known fact.
"I will always be proud of my past work. But for a healthier option, Lover will be out August 23." — in context to Lover being the first album which she owns the masters of.
The Taylor's Versions of Speak Now and 1989 were announced at the tour, and All Too Well (10 Minute Version) from Red (Taylor's Version) is included in the Red act. Many "From the Vault" tracks from Taylor's Versions are also regularly performed as surprise songs.
However, I do agree with you that Taylor Swift placed in the list. Theknine2 (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I appreciate what you did at the article but I'd like a consensus to be reached. The discrepancy between the OG/Taylor's Version is still there, and I believe "Various" was the status quo, which we should stick to unless we receive third-person opinions.
Yes I'm aware Lover is the first album master that Swift owns (I'm a Swiftie, cmon now) but what about Reputation whose Taylor's Version has not been released? Do you plan to change it to Reputation (Taylor's Version) potentially in the future? That's the key problem with the album list. Ippantekina (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Ippantekina. Per WP:STATUSQUO, we should stick to "Various". HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
If Reputation (Taylor’s Version) was announced during the tour, then it could be considered a supporting album. But I do agree with your rationale, since it can be a source of confusion. Theknine2 (talk) 21:17, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, until Reputation (Taylor's Version) gets announced during the tour, WP:CRYSTAL should be kept in mind. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply