Copyied discussion regarding notability from User talk:Rosguill

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I think the history of this group/brand deserves its own page. I understand the amount of sources on Tesa is very limited. Rather than redirecting it to its former group, it would be more contributive to add more sources. Or add more info at the place where you redirect to. Which should be the Hexagon group then, not B&S.

Feel free to discuss on the talk page of Tesa also if you feel things are not correct. Robijn (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Robijn: Ultimately articles on Wikipedia need to meet the notability guidelines in order to be included in the encyclopedia, and Tesa appears to fall well short of both WP:NORG and WP:GNG, the two relevant guidelines. As a new page patroller, my job is to conduct triage on new articles; the responsibility for providing enough sources to demonstrate notability falls to the editor contributing the article–new page patrol has a backlog several thousand articles long and we simply don't have the number of editors necessary to conduct comprehensive searches for sources for every article. If you would like the opportunity to continue hunting for sources and improve the article, we can move it to draftspace where you can work on it undisturbed. Alternatively, I have no problem with redirecting to Hexagon instead of B&S. I'm willing to hear out whatever other arguments you have for keeping the article, but I should warn you that in my time here I can't remember a single article about a private-sector company that was kept through AfD for any reason other than meeting the standard notability guidelines. signed, Rosguill talk 22:34, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Rosguill: I will look for more source. It is difficult to find historic company information online, but this is important to understand how things around this company have evolved. To indicate how difficult this can be: I took me over two hours to only compile the page that you reviewed, because it involves reading through lots of unrelated things. Also from that I got the impression that the Brown and Sharpe article - to which you wanted to redirect - gives a rather single-sided (maybe American-sided) view of their history with TESA and substantially leaves away that B&S does not produce the equipment anymore since 2001 but TESA does instead... it is mentioned only on the last line of the B&S history. The TESA information helps people looking for this information, therefore I think it is valuable to keep it on wikipedia. In a few days I think I should be able to find some more sources. Otherwise, can move the article to a draft space if you think this takes too long? Robijn (talk) 21:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)Reply