Talk:Tadeusz Puder

Latest comment: 5 months ago by Piotrus in topic Is this the same person?

Is this the same person? edit

From https://righteous.yadvashem.org/?search=Puder&searchType=righteous_only&language=en&itemId=4350098&ind=0 : The original territory of the Warsaw Ghetto included two Catholic churches: the Holy Virgin on Leszno Street and the All Saints on Grzybowski Square. The first one was under the jurisdiction of the priest Puder, who aided many Jews and even let them dig a tunnel to the Aryan side from under the church floor.

From https://nplp.pl/artykul/leszno-32-kosciol-narodzenia-najswietszej-marii-panny/ „W kościele na Lesznie księdzem jest neofita, Puder, znany z tego, że przed wojną pobito go (ONR). Obserwatorzy opowiadają, że do Kościoła przychodzi prosty tłum, tragarze itp. Cały szereg policjantów żydowskich pilnuje, żeby nikt nie ruszał.” (t. 29: s. 194)

@Dreamcatcher25, @Marcelus. Anything you can find? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Piotrus Definitely both sources mention the same person. However, according to The Warsaw Ghetto: A Guide to the Perished City, both are wrong. Quoting from Polish edition: "The presence of Father Puder in the Warsaw ghetto is only a legend, uncritically repeated by some historians [...] Archbishop Gall, wanted to save Father Puder, who had a "Wrong appearance" [meaning "Jewish apperance" - D25], thus moved him on November 21, 1939 to Białołęka near Warsaw - to serve as a chaplain at the chapel of the Franciscan Sisters of the Family of Mary, who ran an orphanage called "Bożyczyn". He himself, while hiding in "Bożyczyn", helped to save Jewish children".Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 07:12, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
We should likely mention that error here. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Piotrus yeah the same person, but he wasn't serving at Leszno church, but on Białołęka. Yad Vashem is wrong here. Marcelus (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Dreamcatcher25 @Marcelus Interesting. Any idea if the story about a tunel under the church on Leszno Street is true and if so, who was involved in that operation? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:35, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply